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Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics?

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Am 04.03.2016 13:36, schrieb Gary Harnagel:
> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 1:22:47 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>
>> Unless one is insane, one cannot believe in quantum mechanics and at the
>> same time hail LIGO's "discovery" of gravitational waves. Simply because
>> if gravitational waves, a manifestation of space-time bending caused by
>> matter, do exist, quantum mechanics is just wrong:
>
> Baloney:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9zcBKoFrME
>
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fairly-simple-math-could-bridge-quantum-mechanics-general-relativity/
>
> What does this mean?  It appears that QM is more basic than GR, the latter
> being derivable from the former.  Hence, space-time (and "bending" thereof)
> is an approximation of reality, useful but not to be taken too literally.
>
> So it is fine to talk about gravitational waves and believe in QM at the
> same time without going insane :-)  The insane are those who keep trying
> to denigrate relativity and fail every time:
>
I had the idea to connect GR and QM from the GR side.

This should be possible, since if GR and QM are correct, there had to be 
  a connection.

The search for this connection could be understood analogue to finding a 
path in very rough and uneven terrain, which connects to cities (called 
'GR' and 'QM').

Actually you could start to search at both sides or right in the middle. 
That would make no difference.

My own approach was to start at the GR side and build something like 
particles out of spacetime. The concept is called 'structured 
spacetime', where particles are such structures of/in spacetime.

So spacetime is assumed to be something, but not matter. Matter is like 
patterns inside this something.

For this concept I need only very few assumptions: a point must have 
features (besides coordinates).

So I attach a vector to every point and assume, this would be possible, 
since points (actually: pointlike elements of spacetime) have features, 
which could be expressed by a vector.

Now I connect the neighbouring points in the way, by which quaternions 
are multiplied, what is a kind of rotation.

With this assumption it is possible to model particles, atoms, fields 
and cosmological phenomena.

I have also written kind of book about this idea, (which nobody wanted 
to read.)


In case you are interested you may also have a look at my 'book' here:

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6


TH

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Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 00:22 -0800
  Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 04:36 -0800
    Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-05 06:06 +0100
  Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-03-04 06:55 -0800
  Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 23:11 -0800
    Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 05:47 -0800
    Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-06 03:33 -0800
      Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 22:49 -0800
        Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-10 05:14 -0800
        Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 20:03 -0800
          Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 21:16 -0800
  Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Helene Swanhild <helenes@gardenclosure.org> - 2016-03-05 11:29 +0000
  Re: Did LIGO Kill Quantum Mechanics? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-11 03:47 -0800

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