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Re: Are there electrons that are different?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Are there electrons that are different?
Date 2015-08-25 07:30 +0200
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Am 25.08.2015 06:14, schrieb John Gogo:

>>>
>>> "Putting aside the very important point of whether "ionic fields" are
>>> actually bullsh-t or not,let's pretend that they aren't. According to
>>> current ionic theory, positive ions are, as they say in the academic
>>> community, "hella bad" for you, causing anything from general feelings
>>> of malaise and depression on up to suicidal ideation and actions or even
>>> death (though supposedly only in massive, theoretical or apocryphal
>>> amounts), while negative ions do good things, like lighten one's mood
>>> and sterilize the immediate environment."
>>>
>>> Now I'm slightly insecure, what to believe...
>>>
>>> I would be interested in other peoples opinions about the benefits of
>>> ions (upon human health) and whether positive or negative ions are more
>>> desirable.
>>>
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>> I will put my two cents here, but it's off the cuff.  I am very aware of the cleaning solutions that I use to wash my cloths, dishes, etc., and am realizing that they are very caustic both to the touch and breath.  I must assume that these chemicals are a combination of ionic activity.
>>
>>
>> Secondly, I distinguish substances as either and acid or base and realize that we need these perfect combination in order to make processes neutral.  This includes eating, and the general scale of what an acid and a base mean when they are combined.
>
> Water is considered acidic.

No! Actually the water itself is not acidic, but dissolved substances 
could alter its characteristics.

H+ ions make it more acidic and those them from substances like HCl.

But we were talking about air and ions. The question was, whether 
positive or negative ions in air are better for human health.

If I put 'negative ions' in the search-mask of google, I get LOADS of 
links with the tendency, negative ions are healthy.

e.g.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_air_ionization_therapy

Counter test 'positive ions' produces no webpages, that believe in their 
benefit.

e.g.

"Positive Ions versus Negative Ions"
https://www.quantumbalancing.com/negative_ions.htm

Quote:

"Positive ions or the lack of negative ions may cause serotonin 
hyper-function syndrome or "irritation syndrome" involves sleeplessness, 
irritability, tension, migraine, nausea, heart palpitations, hot flashes 
with sweating or chills, tremor and dizziness. The elderly become 
depressed, apathetic and extremely fatigued."


This non-representative 'test' (by counting google results) of peoples 
opinions provides a strong preference of negative ions (among the 
practitioners of alternative medicine).

TH

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