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Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english, rec.arts.tv, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?
Date 2026-10-04 11:11 -0700
Organization The Starmaker Organization
Message-ID <6AC296BE.449B@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
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Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> Dear alt.usage.english,
> 
> Thinking of /the proof is in the pudding/ for a context outside the
> scope of Usenet, I am now wondering how one would increase his or her
> knowledge of idioms, without having to know each and every one before
> hand?
> 
> For instance, I have no particular interest in looking at
> 
>    https://www.theidioms.com/
> 
> every day, even though that's probably both free and useful.
> 
> I know books of idioms have been published in Iceland, but as far as I'm
> aware, nobody has suggested one for English.  Where did the Englishmen
> of ages past learn their idioms and expressions?  I certainly hope they
> didn't start with regular expressions in the 15th century.  But that
> would probably have been Chauserian English, of which I don't know much,
> sadly.
> 
> Maybe I'll pick up Chauserian English one of these days, but not today.
> Today I thought to pick up a few more unknown-to-me idioms and express-
> ions of more recent usage.
> 
> So, what do posters of alt.usage.english suggest?

you are soooo narrow minded...

"idioms" is soo passeeeee  

It's called catchphrases, English phrases...certaintly not "idioms".

Learn English first.



https://www.ef.edu/english-resources/english-idioms/

https://www.google.com/search?q=english+phrases+books&rlz=1C1AJCO_enUS1195US1195&oq=English+idioms+books&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i22i30l7j0i10i22i30j0i22i30.19326j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Or look in Google Books

"English phrases"

https://www.google.com/search?q=English+phrases&sca_esv=fa8fc3aacbaacd94&rlz=1C1AJCO_enUS1195US1195&udm=36&biw=1920&bih=1085&sxsrf=APpeQntOO0Pb-SF7wIecIGiMJahs9byrHg%3A1791134925605&ei=zYzCasbLJIKikPIPz6PdqAM&ved=2ahUKEwiG5vDH8aCXAxUCEUQIHc9RFzUQ4dUDegQIBBAM&oq=English+phrases&gs_lp=EhBnd3Mtd2l6LW1vZGVsZXNzIg9FbmdsaXNoIHBocmFzZXMyDhAAGIAEGIoFGJECGLEDMgsQABiABBiKBRiRAjILEAAYgAQYigUYkQIyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAESIoYUABYAHAAeACQAQCYAVygAVyqAQExuAEMyAEA-AEC-AEBmAIBoAJ3mAMAkgcDMC4xoAehBbIHAzAuMbgHd8IHAzMtMcgHEoAIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-modeless

physical books (besides your library near you)
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=English%20Phrases&sts=t&ref_=ds_ac_d_19

or free books (just copy and paste in Google)

site:https://dokumen.pub/ Essential English Phrases
 

Here's an idioms

Fuck it!





















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Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:11 -0700

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