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Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM.

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The Starmaker wrote:
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> The Starmaker wrote:
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> > The Starmaker wrote:
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> > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
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> > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
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> > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
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> > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
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> > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
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> > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
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> > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> >  the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> >  a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> >  the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> >  by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> >  One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
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> > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
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> This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
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> He's Putin's kind of guy...

Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
underboss.

Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

If you need a little more understanding...


By Garry Kasparov
When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
the medieval red walls.

Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
into private accounts.

Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omertà by going
to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
over the main suspect in the murder.

Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
all just cards to be played.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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