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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The Shape of the Universe. |
| Date | 2018-05-01 01:27 +0100 |
| Organization | PointedEars Software (PES) |
| Message-ID | <6311131.ugleWl3Y3V@PointedEars.de> (permalink) |
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Tom Roberts wrote: > On 4/28/18 8:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Tom Roberts wrote: >>> On 4/25/18 3:33 PM, hanson wrote: >>>> So, if "space is expanding" what is space expanding into? >>> There is nothing (no thing) into which space is expanding. This is an >>> expansion of the entire universe, so there can be nothing outside of it. >> >> Not true, because there might not be only “*the* universe”. > > And there might be invisible blue fairies shepherding the planets around > the sun. Probably the same thing some people have said about atoms before they were observed. Or molecules. Or photons. Or curved, dynamic spacetime. Unfortunately, as I am not a specialist in inflation theory, and Stephen Hawking, who was a proponent of the multiverse hypothesis, has died recently, you will have to discuss your doubts with Brian Greene, Max Tegmark, Alan Guth, Andrei Linde, Michio Kaku, David Deutsch, Leonard Susskind, Alexander Vilenkin, Yasunori Nomura Raj Pathria, Laura Mersini-Houghton, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Lawrence Krauss, or Sean Carroll. >> *Our* universe could be part of, and expanding into, a multiverse, [...] > > Fine as a speculation, but this has not come close to being a > theory/model. How so? PointedEars -- A neutron walks into a bar and inquires how much a drink costs. The bartender replies, "For you? No charge." (from: WolframAlpha)
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-20 23:49 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-23 10:31 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-23 22:50 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-24 20:48 +1000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Adam Stefaniak <adam.stefaniak@hotmail.co.uk> - 2018-04-24 04:51 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-24 23:44 -0500
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 08:49 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-04-24 08:50 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-24 23:21 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-25 20:25 +1000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-04-25 08:53 +0200
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-25 10:42 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-25 13:33 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 14:05 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 21:45 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 15:11 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 22:25 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 15:43 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 15:46 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 16:05 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 16:57 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 17:22 -0700
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 14:29 +0000
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-26 11:01 -0700
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-26 07:12 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-25 22:53 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-25 21:13 -0700
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:18 +0000
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Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:44 +0000
You're a consumer. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-27 14:52 -0700
Re: You're a consumer. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 19:07 -0400
Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 19:05 -0400
Toss a rock up, and it "remembers" to come down. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-04-27 16:23 -0700
Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 15:47 -0500
Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-02 14:30 -0700
Re: Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-03 06:53 +0000
Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-03 01:11 -0700
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Re: Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 11:38 -0400
Re: Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-04 09:07 -0700
Re: Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-04 17:53 +0000
Re: Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 19:06 -0700
Re: Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-05 11:22 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-27 16:38 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-27 21:53 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-27 15:01 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-04-28 11:31 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-05-01 11:10 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-27 21:41 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-29 03:27 +0200
Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 22:51 -0400
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-29 03:06 +0200
Re: The Shape of the Universe. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-28 22:30 -0700
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-30 16:23 +0000
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Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-05-01 01:27 +0100
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-01 13:12 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-05-24 21:01 +0200
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-24 19:35 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-24 19:04 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Oslovné Ritmickeho <uiq@oichewo.th> - 2018-05-25 08:43 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-26 19:44 +1000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-26 08:18 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-04-28 00:16 +1000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-27 07:46 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-04-28 11:52 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:23 -0400
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-28 12:00 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-28 12:01 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Erin Koff <umhn@cniwwe.im> - 2018-05-01 11:07 +0000
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 12:33 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-28 10:55 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:34 -0400
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-04-28 22:33 -0500
Re: The Shape of the Universe. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-04-28 22:33 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-29 03:17 -0400
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-29 09:21 -0400
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-29 07:26 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-04-28 11:44 -0700
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-04-27 09:47 +0200
Re: The Shape of the Universe. Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2018-04-27 21:39 +0200
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