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J. Clarke wrote:
> 
> In article <ev97f6Fdnt1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
> >
> > Am 12.08.2017 20:25, schrieb hanson:
> > >
> > > "Thomas Heger" <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote
> > >> Am 10.08.2017 um 20:02 schrieb Hägar:
> > >>> "The Starmaker" wrote in message news:598C989F.148A@ix.netcom.com...
> > >>> https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
> > >>>
> > >>> Hägar wrote:
> > >>> *** This piece of trash was written not by Einstein, but by
> > >>> a socialist political hack, of the same type than those who
> > >>> penned Obama's two books.
> > >>>
> > >>> Einstein was a scientist and scientists just don't write or
> > >>> orate in the lingo of the socialist ruling class. Obama, on the other
> > >>> hand, is the epitome of socialism/communism and has the flowery rhetoric
> > >>> of those carpet baggers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Einstein fled to Switzerland to escape the encroaching threat
> > >>> od Hitler's "National Socialism" (NAZI) party and from there
> > >>> to the US where he stayed for the rest of his life.
> > >>> You, Starmaker, are a clueless hack.
> > >>
> > > "Thomas Dumbass Heger" wrote:
> > >> Einstein had a very strong German accent for all of his life (in the
> > >> USA). The quoted text is written in flawless English, what Einstein
> > >> could not do.
> > >> So I would agree, that this text is most likely not written by him.
> > >>
> > > hanson wrote:
> > > Dumbass Heger, how does an accent determine grammar?
> > > or how or by what means were you able to conclude that a
> > > spoken accent (audio) can be seen in a silent, printed article? ..
> > > Here, for your benefit, are some more
> > > <http://tinyurl.com/Tears-for-Einsteins-Misery>
> > >
> >
> > I'm German and write in a second language. So I know very the
> > difficulties for Germans t5o write in English (or for English to write
> > in German).
> >
> > The English language is full of very specific rules and exceptions and
> > there are way more English words than German.
> >
> > German on the other hand is difficult for speakers of English, because
> > they have e.g. three genders and certain letters, that are hard to
> > pronounce correctly (like 'ü').
> >
> > So I would guess, that I could hear the origin of a speaker. But I could
> > also see the differences in the written language, since certain mistakes
> > are typical for Germans and for English.
> >
> > For instance countries are female in English (Germany is 'she') and the
> > people living there are male singular (the German).
> >
> > The German language uses different concepts and countries have mainly
> > the neutral gender and people are addressed in plural.
> >
> > So speakers of either language make certain errors, because they are
> > used to the concepts, their own language is based on. And they keep them
> > long after they speak the new foreign language perfectly.
> >
> >  From such errors I can estimate the origin of the speaker, even if
> > there is no accent.
> >
> > But Einstein spoke with a very strong German accent (like e.g. Wernher
> > von Braun), hence he did not learn the new language English too well.
> >
> > Since the quoted text about socialism is flawless, I assume that
> > Einstein could not have written it (himself).
> >
> > But possibly the text was edited or corrected on the foundation of a
> > text of Einstein himself. Possibly he wrote in German and that was
> > translated by a professional translator.
> 
> I think that Einstein's command of English was considerably better than
> yours.  I'm pretty sure that he understood that one would only refer to
> _writing_ with an accent if one was attempting to be facetious.
> 
> If you mean that people with certain backgrounds make characteristic
> grammatical errors, that may be true, but it is not an "accent", and when
> one is writing for publication and (a) has time to review one's work, (b)
> hand it to someone in the English department at a major university to vet,
> and (c) also has it reviewed by the publication's professional editor, such
> errors can be easily eliminated.
> 
> Now, whether Einstein's views on politics should be given much weight is a
> different question--he was an expert on physics, not government.  Expertise
> in one field does not automatically convey expertise in another.
> 


'government expert'?? ,  i didn't even know the term existed. Is Trump a
'government expert'????

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by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 10:32 -0700
  Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 11:02 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 11:31 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 13:36 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 13:49 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 14:07 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:35 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-10 23:22 +0000
                Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:34 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-10 23:57 +0000
                Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 19:36 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 18:43 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Prudence Hofmeister <phow@innfldo.sp> - 2017-08-11 17:34 +0000
                Re: by albert einstein JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 11:37 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 12:43 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Prudence Oppenheimer <phow@innfldo.sp> - 2017-08-11 20:00 +0000
    Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 11:46 -0700
      Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 16:54 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-10 19:26 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 22:24 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:41 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 11:23 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 13:34 -0500
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 12:34 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-11 15:40 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-11 09:54 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-11 22:07 -0700
          by albert einstein "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-13 07:34 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:26 -0700
          Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:10 -0700
          Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:03 -0700
            Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 15:39 -0400
              Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 13:11 -0700
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 16:17 -0400
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 13:46 -0700
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-08-13 17:04 -0400
                Re: " the complete enslavement of the individual " -- Albert Einstein. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 19:43 -0400
        Re: by albert einstein Eric Baird <erkdemon@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 08:02 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 13:51 +0200
      Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 11:25 -0700
        Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-12 22:41 +0200
          Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 14:08 -0700
          Re: by albert einstein "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 18:01 -0400
            Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:04 -0700
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 18:36 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 19:15 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-12 20:26 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-12 21:19 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-12 21:24 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 20:32 +0200
              Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-13 12:16 -0700
            Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-13 21:05 +0200
              Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-14 13:16 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-15 10:21 +0200
                Re: by albert einstein Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-15 12:08 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-15 14:35 -0700
                Re: by albert einstein Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2017-08-16 08:19 +0200
      Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-12 13:06 -0700
  Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2017-08-13 11:20 -0400
    Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-08-13 10:19 -0700
      Re: Communist slaves in China have two choices. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-13 11:08 -0700
  Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-23 10:42 -0700
    Re: by albert einstein The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-08-25 12:33 -0700

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