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Re: God doesn't believe in atheist

Message-ID <59063C47.31EA@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2017-04-30 12:34 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written, alt.astronomy
Subject Re: God doesn't believe in atheist
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 
> SteveGG amok-crossposted across 5(!) newsgroups without Followup-To:
> 
> > Amazing that some fools still believe in god, creation and all the BS
> > that goes with it !
> 
> Amazing that you still have not learned to post properly.
> 
> > If the univwrse had a begining, then what was a day before ?
> 
> JFTR: The idea that the (our) universe had a beginning is not limited to
> religion and creationism at all.
> 
> There is a lot of observational *scientific* evidence that supports the Big
> Bang theory that concludes, from the general theory of relativity applied to
> our universe, that our universe *had* a beginning.
> 
> However, (real) science (cosmology) does not jump to the conclusion that
> therefore our universe was created, which would require it to have (had) a
> creator.  For all we know, our universe could have begun from “nothing”,
> i.e. quantum fluctuations in empty space could have produced our universe,
> and in fact any other universe.
> 
> As a result, the concept of a “day before” the (our) universe began, or more
> generally, a time before the Big Bang, is not well-defined.  Time itself
> began with (or, more precisely, shortly after) the Big Bang inasfar as
> that, according to theory, causality breaks down before the Planck epoch.
> 
> As another result, there could be an infinite number of universes, our
> universe just being one of them in what has been coined “the multiverse”.
> (Hence my emphasis on “our”.  Scientific understanding has moved beyond
> the point where we literally mean “universe” as “the only one” as per the
> original Latin.)
> 
> See also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Universe_from_Nothing> p.
> 
> > Also, absolutely ridiculous that there is god that oversees everything.
> 
> Full ACK.
> 
> > It takes hundreds of thousands of years for anything to transverse just
> > one galaxy, including god's thoughts, so god would have to be a very slow
> > thinker !
> 
> Your logic is flawed because a lifeform that we, at our current stage of
> development, would accept as a deity, could have discovered laws of physics
> that we have not discovered yet.  Keep in mind:
> 
>   “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”
> 
>     –Clarke’s third law
> 
> which can been rephrased as
> 
>   “Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is
>    indistinguishable from God.”
> 
>     –Shermer's last law
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws>
> 
> However, the existence of such a lifeform grows the more unlikely the more
> we develop our understanding of our universe.
> 
> --
> PointedEars
> 
> Twitter: @PointedEars2
> Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.




The guy with the pointed ears is quoting...science fiction writers!!! THAT'S INSANE!!!!


British science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated three adages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws


God had a dream...so he painted his dream.


He took out his pen and drew a tree.




Which is worse, quoting from the bible or quoting from a ...science fiction book????

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              Re: God doesn't believe in atheist Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 09:12 -0700
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                Re: God doesn't believe in atheist Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-30 09:57 -0700
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                Re: God doesn't believe in atheist Himère Bezuinig <numunenen@wgngiweig.mc> - 2017-04-30 19:05 +0000
                Re: God doesn't believe in atheist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-30 12:34 -0700
                Re: God doesn't believe in atheist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-30 12:58 -0700
                Re: God doesn't believe in atheist Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-04-30 22:46 +0200
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