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Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible

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Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 1/01/2017 5:51 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>
> >> On 31/12/2016 6:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 31/12/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 31/12/2016 6:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> lets say you travel back in time in a time machine and your
> >>>>>>> time machine lands on your grandfather and kills him...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Time Travel Is Not Possible.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any answers you give saying time travel is possible would
> >>>>>>> be...absurd answers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i don't want to hear absurd answers like you come back in
> >>>>>>> unproven paralell universes where your father and grandfather
> >>>>>>> still exist...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i don't want to hear it!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why not? You're effectively saying that the Universe has a
> >>>>>> particular form, one in which your proof works. That's akin to
> >>>>>> a circular argument. Maybe the universe does have such a form,
> >>>>>> and time travel really is impossible, but you have no proof of
> >>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would say by now somebody in the far future would be here
> >>>>> now...
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller
> >>>> from the far future has come here is that there is no far future
> >>>> from which to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become
> >>>> extinct due to natural disaster, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >>> Where did you get this idea "civilisation wipes itself out", and
> >>> "humans become extinct"? a crystal ball??
> >>>
> >>
> >> They're merely possibilities. Since they are possible, you cannot use
> >> the non-existence of time travellers from the future as proof that time
> >> travel is impossible.
> >>
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> > So, you actually believe that it is possible that a whole "civilisation" can be wiped out?? How??? Can you give an example?
> 
> Nearby supernova, collision between black-holes somewhere in the
> galactic neighbourhood, large comet collision with Earth, worldwide
> nuclear war, biological weapons, runaway global warming, return to
> ice-ball Earth. The list of possibilities is endless.
> 
> >
> > Also, I don't see any signs of 'humans becoming extint', ...what signs do you see, Mrs Else?
> >
> 
> Well, for the most part there wouldn't be any signs, because it wouldn't
> be a gradual process.
> 
> Sylvia.


Most girls don't even think like you do...

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Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 11:19 -0800
  Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 11:33 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-31 07:54 +1100
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-30 21:03 +0000
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-12-31 15:20 +0100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 14:31 +0000
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:13 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:16 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2016-12-30 12:55 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 13:04 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-12-31 06:59 +0100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:06 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:15 -0800
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 06:48 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 13:20 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-30 21:30 +0000
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-12-30 15:24 -0700
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:25 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:28 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "chwilozof" <nieznajome@att.com> - 2016-12-30 16:33 -0500
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-30 14:25 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:18 -0800
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-30 16:31 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 13:03 +1100
    How to travel in time Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-12-31 02:38 +0000
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 20:21 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 15:32 +1100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-30 23:05 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-12-31 19:07 +1100
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 10:51 -0800
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:44 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 17:01 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-31 17:26 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 13:10 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:48 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:03 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 21:07 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 16:25 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-02 10:19 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:54 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:18 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-04 16:45 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-03 21:53 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 11:38 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-05 12:16 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:19 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 11:18 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-05 17:50 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-06 13:29 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:13 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-07 11:57 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 11:34 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:14 -0800
                Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-10 17:12 -0500
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 22:40 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-11 04:02 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-01-06 00:37 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:18 -0700
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-06 09:24 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 10:00 -0700
                Re: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-07 21:43 -0500
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 16:44 -0700
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2016-12-31 07:23 +0000
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-12-31 12:56 -0500
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:55 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-12-31 20:54 +0000
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 13:36 -0800
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 00:29 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 19:02 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-31 20:10 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:07 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-01 06:55 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:43 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:33 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 06:10 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 14:56 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 16:43 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-01 11:46 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:16 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:58 -0800
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-01 11:46 +1100
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 06:37 +0000
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 16:51 -0800
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          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Tiffany Wuest <eesio@esufsi.info> - 2017-01-01 15:47 +0000
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Yuri Kretin <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2017-01-01 09:52 -0600
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-01 21:19 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:52 -0800
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:50 -0800
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  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-31 11:21 -0800
  Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2017-01-01 19:15 -0500
    Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-01 16:56 -0800
      Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-02 12:14 +1100
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 06:59 -0800
          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:57 +1100
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-02 20:31 -0800
        Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Winona Bellard <erli@aeni.no> - 2017-01-02 23:02 +0000
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          Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-03 14:58 +1100
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-01-03 18:03 -0500
            Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sharilyn Vore <inolr@nryowno.an> - 2017-01-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 16:53 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 06:07 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-10 19:18 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 00:28 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 14:08 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 06:41 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-01-11 11:46 +1100
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-01-10 23:16 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:45 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 13:41 +0000
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 21:08 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 13:19 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:01 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ward Nusbaum <uqowm@msdmmsuus.org> - 2017-01-11 21:51 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-11 23:09 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-11 23:21 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 00:09 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:25 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:52 -0800
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:11 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-12 08:55 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 22:09 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 10:39 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-13 22:37 +0000
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                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:00 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:25 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-14 10:16 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:18 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:28 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-13 23:44 -0800
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-10 13:47 +0000
                Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 09:29 -0800
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  Time Travel Is Not Possible "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-14 09:53 -0800

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