Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:25:52 -0600 Message-ID: <58685AA8.4AAB@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:26:00 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible References: <5866B352.6F63@ix.netcom.com> <58673243.3914@ix.netcom.com> <586758A0.1F74@ix.netcom.com> <5867FE37.723@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 82 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-gu2wTDDDo1I4EnyMSCFy2df8Ak9nu7Wzms3dP8JoyhAIlaMLkAeDKsjb0/GXSBUjylKX2Lh0hYiR5MI!RzSdgq8HCCxAjKFwLAU5xjor1D44G+sZsBKdb02ppSP8CRkMlupZdZc8xUSzlk077FzSQ3H51EKY!loEIcaf3iLk= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4033 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:461342 sci.physics:611153 sci.physics.relativity:403650 alt.astronomy:288520 Sylvia Else wrote: > > On 1/01/2017 5:51 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >> On 31/12/2016 6:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 31/12/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 31/12/2016 6:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> lets say you travel back in time in a time machine and your > >>>>>>> time machine lands on your grandfather and kills him... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Time Travel Is Not Possible. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any answers you give saying time travel is possible would > >>>>>>> be...absurd answers. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i don't want to hear absurd answers like you come back in > >>>>>>> unproven paralell universes where your father and grandfather > >>>>>>> still exist... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i don't want to hear it! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why not? You're effectively saying that the Universe has a > >>>>>> particular form, one in which your proof works. That's akin to > >>>>>> a circular argument. Maybe the universe does have such a form, > >>>>>> and time travel really is impossible, but you have no proof of > >>>>>> that. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sylvia. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I would say by now somebody in the far future would be here > >>>>> now... > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller > >>>> from the far future has come here is that there is no far future > >>>> from which to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become > >>>> extinct due to natural disaster, etc. > >>>> > >>>> Sylvia. > >>> > >>> Where did you get this idea "civilisation wipes itself out", and > >>> "humans become extinct"? a crystal ball?? > >>> > >> > >> They're merely possibilities. Since they are possible, you cannot use > >> the non-existence of time travellers from the future as proof that time > >> travel is impossible. > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > So, you actually believe that it is possible that a whole "civilisation" can be wiped out?? How??? Can you give an example? > > Nearby supernova, collision between black-holes somewhere in the > galactic neighbourhood, large comet collision with Earth, worldwide > nuclear war, biological weapons, runaway global warming, return to > ice-ball Earth. The list of possibilities is endless. > > > > > Also, I don't see any signs of 'humans becoming extint', ...what signs do you see, Mrs Else? > > > > Well, for the most part there wouldn't be any signs, because it wouldn't > be a gradual process. > > Sylvia. Most girls don't even think like you do...