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Gary Harnagel wrote: > > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 5:41:27 PM UTC-6, Pentcho Valev wrote: > > > > Special relativity predicts that either twin ages more slowly than the other, > > as judged from the other twin's system: > > Of, course they are VERY far apart when they make those predictions. > You can only be sure of what REALLY happens when you bring them together > at the beginning and end of the trip. > > > http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~djmorin/chap11.pdf > > "Twin A stays on the earth, while twin B flies quickly to a distant > > star and back. [...] For the entire outward and return parts of the > > trip, B does observe A's clock running slow, but enough strangeness > > occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older." > > > > Special relativity's prediction that either twin ages more slowly than > > the other (as judged from the other twin's system) leads to absurdity > > unless "enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to > > make A end up older". However, during the turning-around period, the > > traveling twin is very far away from his stationary brother so the > > idea that "enough strangeness" is somehow produced during the turning- > > around period and this "enough strangeness" miraculously affects the > > distant stationary twin is simply idiotic." > > Yes , it would be absurd if the "strangeness occurred at the stationary > twin's location, but it doesn't: It occurs at the traveling twin's > position. Proof: Let there be another observer moving with the traveling > twin, but he keeps on going when the traveling twin turns around. > Obviously, he will continue to see the stationary twin continue to age > slowly, contrary to what the traveling twin sees while turning around. > > So Pentcho leaps to the absurd concept instead of the one that makes > sense. It figures! > > Gary I don't get it, are you saying it requires three observers?
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Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-14 16:41 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-14 19:23 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-14 23:32 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 06:06 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-14 23:56 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 05:03 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-15 06:20 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-07-15 06:37 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 06:45 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-15 19:08 +0200
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 16:24 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 08:49 +0200
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 05:25 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 16:23 +0200
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 07:48 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 21:14 +0200
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 12:40 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-07-16 23:13 +0200
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-07-16 09:32 +0200
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-07-16 13:06 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-15 13:52 -0700
Re: Absurdity Called Einstein's Twin Paradox The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-07-17 22:15 -0700
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