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Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion

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benj wrote:
> 
> On 04/21/2016 12:26 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 04/20/2016 10:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and that's that!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> any questions?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What are you on?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sylvia.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an
> >>> appearance that differs significantly from its reality.
> >>>
> >>> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question.
> >>>
> >>> Sylvia.
> >>
> >> It's difficult to attach any meaning to things Starfaker posts, but
> >> nevertheless the question is a valid one.
> >>
> >> Can you imagine a situation where time is an Illusion? What does that
> >> mean. Well, it would mean that in your PERCEPTION events would progress
> >> and develop to your perception from the past to the present to the
> >> future. But since it's an illusion, it would mean that in truth nothing
> >> is changing at all and all events and seeming actions are perpetually
> >> fixed and immutable.
> >>
> >> How can this be? Well as you say it's all about "perception". Like the
> >> people in Plato's cave let us suppose that your perception of events
> >> (reality) is entirely due to your consciousness. You consciousness is
> >> observing shadows on the cave wall that you take to be reality. Only
> >> that doesn't fit well with our experience of "reality". So let's
> >> "improve" Plato's idea and instead of sitting and observing life go by
> >> on the cave wall, say all of the universe INCLUDING all possible
> >> effects, events and things that COULD happen are cast into a huge...well
> >> we knew Hollywood physics would enter in, right?...Matrix!
> >>
> >> When you experience "time" in truth your consciousness is experiencing a
> >> VELOCITY over the matrix. Your "past" is the path your consciousness
> >> took, through the matrix up to now. The present is the location where
> >> your consciousness is presently located and the future is innumerable
> >> paths your consciousness COULD take from the present point. Note that
> >> since the start of the future path must be the present point, MANY paths
> >> are available but most are not. Jumps we presume are not allowed.
> >>
> >> Thus, one can say, there is NO time, it is all ONE time and there is no
> >> space, it is all ONE space! And it becomes obvious that the past is
> >> fixed (it is the path you took!) And the future is not (many paths
> >> available). However if we apply Newton's laws we see that any path from
> >> the past will tend to move forward on a given trajectory unless acted
> >> upon by a FORCE. And that force would be Mind or what is termed "will".
> >> Hence ability to get outside of causality (coasting) is termed free will.
> >>
> >> It's all so simple, Sylivia, I wonder why nobody "gets" it?
> >
> >
> >
> > the past is not fixed. if someone tells you your mother is not really
> > your real mother, your past changes. your real
> > mother no loger exist in your past...anyone can change your
> > past...events are always changing.
> >
> > What doesn't change is that you seem to be Wrong consistently.
> >
> Starfaker, you are a lib idiot like HVAC. Reality is not your fantasies.
> HVAC has been invited to jump off a building to "prove" this theory that
> gravity is not a force. And you are invited to perform similar
> experiments to prove that reality is only what you imagine it to be. You
> have been an idiot in the past and that can never be changed even if you
> actually were to grow a brain at some point.
> 
> Why don't you go play trolling the atheists or something while we adults
> are talking?


Gravity is not a force. It is too weak to be a force. What Gravity is..
it's minus time, minus space. Gravity is the fabric of space...

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Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 14:52 -0700
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 16:57 -0500
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 15:38 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-19 17:44 -0500
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-19 19:20 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 14:39 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:56 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 12:09 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:58 -0700
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-20 19:31 +1000
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:48 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 12:27 +1000
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:10 -0400
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:26 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:44 -0400
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:11 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 09:32 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 23:47 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 05:39 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-22 11:57 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 14:20 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:55 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-25 05:57 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:29 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 07:26 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:58 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 13:35 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 15:17 +1000
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 22:56 -0700
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 02:00 -0400
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-21 20:52 +1000
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:23 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 13:25 +1000
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 01:14 -0400
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-23 15:32 +1000
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-23 02:19 -0400
            Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 15:52 -0700
              Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 22:35 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 23:36 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 07:29 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 11:53 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 14:49 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-27 00:07 -0700
                Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 11:08 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:28 -0700
          Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:45 -0400
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 23:18 -0700
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-20 03:31 -0700
    Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 11:46 -0700
      Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-20 21:31 -0700
        Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:47 -0400
  Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 00:27 -0700

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