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Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics

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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > [To Pentcho, John Sefton, Ben Jacoby and other like-minded luddites]
> >
> > A number of people on this newsgroup have claimed that the money spent
> > on the LHC was a monstrous waste of time because Higgs bosons would
> > never be found because the idea was stillborn to begin with (according
> > to them).
> >
> > A number of people on this newsgroup have claimed that the money spent
> > on the LIGO lab was a monstrous waste of time because gravitational
> > waves would never be found because the idea was stillborn to begin with
> > (according to them).
> >
> > Now, of course, the discovery of the Higgs boson is well-established,
> 
> Oh pulease give me a break already....
> 
> There is no mention on this page of a "Higgs bosons".
> http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2013/
> 
> All it reads is a generic word that can mean ...anything.
> 
> "discovery of a 'mechanism'".
> 
> and on this page it reads:
> 
> "This particle is *consistent* with the Higgs boson"
> http://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson
> 
> Being 'consistent' does not make it a Higgs boson. Get Real!
> 
> The nobel prize is a fraud, and the announcement  as you put it:
> 
> "the discovery of the Higgs boson is well-established"
> 
> IS A FUCKIN LIE!!!!
> 
> The Starmaker
> 
> He has consistently denied the charges...until today he changed his plee to guilty.


A group of researchers, however, has casted doubt on whether or not the supposed particle discovered during experiments with the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), 
the largest and most powerful particle collider in the world, is the long sought after Higgs Boson.Nov 10, 2014



https://www.google.com/#q=has+the+higgs+boson+really+been+found
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/19832/20141110/did-or-did-not-cern-discover-higgs-boson-particle-we-deserve-to-know.htm




then of course you have fraudelent newswriters:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2014/06/25/confirmed-definitely-higgs-boson-found-lhc/#.Vr4pkUCbErc

That have Headlines that read: Confirmed: That Was Definitely the Higgs Boson Found at LHC 

and end their articles with...
"More work will be necessary, in order to both obtain stronger statistical proof of the new findings..."




Bottom line... it's all about..

to ensure the continuing supply
of funds.



The Starmaker

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Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:04 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-11 11:41 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 16:49 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-12 10:44 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:00 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 15:21 -0600
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:40 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 16:19 -0600
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 21:00 -0500
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2016-02-11 13:40 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 20:58 -0500
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-11 23:28 -0600
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 14:17 +0000
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 06:53 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 19:53 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 20:06 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 20:55 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-11 23:37 -0600
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics GSS <gurcharn.sandhu@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 04:46 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-02-12 06:31 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 09:51 -0600
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-13 08:35 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 21:28 -0600
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-14 10:15 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 19:32 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-14 11:50 -0600
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:04 -0800
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics CDH <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 20:45 +0000
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 20:09 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 20:22 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 06:56 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 22:40 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 00:06 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 14:35 +0100
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-12 00:13 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-12 10:57 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-12 11:14 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 01:23 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 04:52 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-02-12 06:32 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-12 17:00 +0000
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 11:16 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Adrian Ferent <adrferent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 11:07 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 19:34 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 09:58 -0600
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 21:55 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 15:03 +0100
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:53 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:14 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 22:36 +0100
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 23:20 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 14:18 +0100
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 07:27 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 09:24 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-18 19:25 +0100
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 11:37 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-14 12:13 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Adrian Ferent <adrferent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:27 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:41 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 15:05 +0100
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:59 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 10:10 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 22:08 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 23:41 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:25 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 06:29 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:33 -0800
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 08:36 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 17:52 +0100
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 10:05 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 21:00 +0100
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 12:56 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 19:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-20 10:50 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 19:04 +0000
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 20:27 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 06:22 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:12 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 07:50 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 08:00 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 08:38 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:35 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:58 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:25 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:36 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:48 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 17:52 +0000
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 10:07 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 18:28 +0000
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 11:19 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 10:06 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 14:57 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:13 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 19:47 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 21:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 19:41 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 21:43 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 06:22 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 06:41 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 06:56 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 07:26 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 07:52 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:43 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 11:16 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 12:34 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 15:55 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 19:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 20:57 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 07:58 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 09:23 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 09:43 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 09:51 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 10:21 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 08:16 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:19 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:57 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 07:55 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 08:03 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:20 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 23:04 +0100
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 23:53 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 12:15 +0100
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 23:26 -0800
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-20 13:32 +0100
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-21 14:57 +0000
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 23:41 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 00:06 -0800

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