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Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics

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Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> [To Pentcho, John Sefton, Ben Jacoby and other like-minded luddites]
> 
> A number of people on this newsgroup have claimed that the money spent
> on the LHC was a monstrous waste of time because Higgs bosons would
> never be found because the idea was stillborn to begin with (according
> to them).
> 
> A number of people on this newsgroup have claimed that the money spent
> on the LIGO lab was a monstrous waste of time because gravitational
> waves would never be found because the idea was stillborn to begin with
> (according to them).
> 
> Now, of course, the discovery of the Higgs boson is well-established,



Oh pulease give me a break already....

There is no mention on this page of a "Higgs bosons".
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2013/

All it reads is a generic word that can mean ...anything.

"discovery of a 'mechanism'".


and on this page it reads:

"This particle is *consistent* with the Higgs boson"
http://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson


Being 'consistent' does not make it a Higgs boson. Get Real!

The nobel prize is a fraud, and the announcement  as you put it:

"the discovery of the Higgs boson is well-established"

IS A FUCKIN LIE!!!!



The Starmaker



He has consistently denied the charges...until today he changed his plee to guilty.

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Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:04 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-11 11:41 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 16:49 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-12 10:44 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:00 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 15:21 -0600
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:40 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 16:19 -0600
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 21:00 -0500
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "K_h" <KHolmes@SX729.com> - 2016-02-11 13:40 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 20:58 -0500
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-11 23:28 -0600
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 14:17 +0000
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 06:53 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 19:53 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 20:06 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 20:55 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-11 23:37 -0600
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics GSS <gurcharn.sandhu@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 04:46 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-02-12 06:31 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 09:51 -0600
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-13 08:35 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 21:28 -0600
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-14 10:15 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 19:32 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-14 11:50 -0600
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:04 -0800
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics CDH <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-14 20:45 +0000
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 20:09 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 20:22 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 06:56 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 22:40 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Jon Price <jonelwoodprice@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 00:06 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 14:35 +0100
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-12 00:13 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-12 10:57 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-12 11:14 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 01:23 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 04:52 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-02-12 06:32 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-12 17:00 +0000
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 11:16 -0600
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Adrian Ferent <adrferent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 11:07 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 19:34 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-13 09:58 -0600
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 21:55 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 15:03 +0100
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:53 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:14 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 22:36 +0100
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 23:20 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 14:18 +0100
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 07:27 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 09:24 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-18 19:25 +0100
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 11:37 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-14 12:13 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Adrian Ferent <adrferent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:27 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 12:41 -0800
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 15:05 +0100
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:59 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 10:10 -0800
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 22:08 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 23:41 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:25 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 06:29 -0800
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:33 -0800
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 08:36 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 17:52 +0100
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 10:05 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-19 21:00 +0100
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-19 12:56 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 19:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics alsor@interia.pl - 2016-02-20 10:50 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 19:04 +0000
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 20:27 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 06:22 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:12 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 07:50 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 08:00 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 08:38 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:35 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:58 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:25 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:36 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 09:48 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 17:52 +0000
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 10:07 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 18:28 +0000
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 11:19 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 10:06 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 14:57 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:13 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 19:47 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 21:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 19:41 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 21:43 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 06:22 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 06:41 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 06:56 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 07:26 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 07:52 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:43 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 11:16 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 12:34 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 15:55 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 19:39 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 20:57 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 07:58 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 09:23 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 09:43 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 09:51 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 10:21 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 08:16 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:19 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:57 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 07:55 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-22 08:03 -0800
                Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 08:20 -0800
      Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-18 23:04 +0100
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 23:53 -0800
          Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-19 12:15 +0100
            Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 23:26 -0800
              Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-20 13:32 +0100
        Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-21 14:57 +0000
  Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Omar Shabsigh <omar.shabsigh@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 23:41 -0800
    Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 00:06 -0800

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