Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 02:13:01 -0600 Message-ID: <56BD9428.5057@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 00:13:28 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gravitational waves and skeptics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.239.141.5 X-Trace: sv3-gCH2Hj3/dntYg2S+5FDglCNFr3E0wHOwWd24VOR3ln/3NDRfx+hUB4/OHTTivEBJ3yHzpqSi+ccR2Zn!6fjotp4xW842D+QcB+MdPmkMAfxr6M2SiJWrvTQ/MLYC0Cxhcxs/1wpmgV+Sdp3vdnPhaufqyrFW!GJ9o6+NdMA== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2395 X-Received-Bytes: 2507 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2246232024 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:376105 Odd Bodkin wrote: > > [To Pentcho, John Sefton, Ben Jacoby and other like-minded luddites] > > A number of people on this newsgroup have claimed that the money spent > on the LHC was a monstrous waste of time because Higgs bosons would > never be found because the idea was stillborn to begin with (according > to them). > > A number of people on this newsgroup have claimed that the money spent > on the LIGO lab was a monstrous waste of time because gravitational > waves would never be found because the idea was stillborn to begin with > (according to them). > > Now, of course, the discovery of the Higgs boson is well-established, Oh pulease give me a break already.... There is no mention on this page of a "Higgs bosons". http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2013/ All it reads is a generic word that can mean ...anything. "discovery of a 'mechanism'". and on this page it reads: "This particle is *consistent* with the Higgs boson" http://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson Being 'consistent' does not make it a Higgs boson. Get Real! The nobel prize is a fraud, and the announcement as you put it: "the discovery of the Higgs boson is well-established" IS A FUCKIN LIE!!!! The Starmaker He has consistently denied the charges...until today he changed his plee to guilty.