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Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity

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alsor@interia.pl wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> > Look at the case of a moving train colision with a car:
>> > the car is totaly destroyed, mixed, crushed and fragmented.
>> > 
>> > Next: the car moves and hits the same train, which now stays in place.
>> > The car simply contracts somewhat only - it not destroys, nor
>> > fragments, unlike in the earlier version.
>> Incorrect.  If the "moving" car hits the "standing" train at the same
>> angle and the same speed, the same thing happens as if the "standing" car
>> would be hit by a "moving" train.  Because the magnitude of the energy is
>> the same.
> 
> No, the energies of the collision are tramedously different!
> 
> 1. Mv^2/2 = 100000kg v^2/2
> 2. mv^2/2 = 1000 v^2/2

Well, yes; bad example.  I admit that I fell for your trap of 
oversimplification this time.

Because it is the *mass* that makes all the difference.  *Not*, *contrary to 
your previous claims*, which one of the two bodies is considered to be in 
motion.
 
>> Classical mechanics suffices for the calculation.
> 
> You are stupid again.

No, *I* know what I am talking about:

> Classical mechanics suffices for any calculation in the reality -

Once again you have no shadow of a trace of a clue what you are talking 
about.

For example:

Classical mechanics (CM) cannot explain the photoelectric effect; quantum 
mechanics (QM) can since 1900/1905 (Planck, Einstein).

CM cannot explain the redshift or blueshift of light; special relativity 
(SR) and GR can since 1905 and 1915, respectively (Einstein et al.)

CM cannot explain the precession of the perihelion of Mercury; GR can since 
1915 (Einstein).

CM cannot explain the amount of the deflection of light by the Sun and other 
massive objects; GR can since 1915/1919 (Einstein, Eddington et al.).

CM cannot explain the expansion of the universe; GR can since 1927/1929 
(Lemaître, Hubble).

CM cannot explain why some chemical elements form molecules and some do not; 
QM can since 1927/1931 (London, Heitler, Pauling).

CM cannot explain the formation and evolution of stars; GM and QM can since 
1915/1939 (Einstein et al.; Bethe, Weizsäcker).

CM cannot explain solar neutrinos; QM can since 1939/1957 (Bethe, 
Pontecorvo).

CM cannot explain the origin of mass; QM can since 1964/2012 (Brout, 
Englert; Higgs; Guralnik, Hagen, Kibble; CERN).

CM cannot explain why the atomic nucleus, although it contains particles of 
equal electric charge (protons), holds together; QM (QCD) can since 1979 
(Gross, Politzer, Wilczek).

CM cannot explain black holes and gravitational waves;
GR can since 1916/2016 (Einstein, LSC/VSC et al.)

(And so on.  This list does not claim to be exhaustive.)

> there is no anomalies in the classical science.

Straw man.  Nobody claimed there were.

>> In the worst case, if u = v = c, and you simply add (according to the
>> *classical*, Galilei transformation)
>> 
>>   s = u + v = c + c = 2 c,
> 
> It's just the correct - mathematical/physical result.
> You are fooled by relativity!

It is the correct mathematical result, but not the correct physical result.  
The results of numerous experiments, and working practical applications, 
contradict this assumption.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity>

-- 
PointedEars

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Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-30 09:13 -0800
  Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-30 19:26 +0100
    Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 12:51 -0600
      Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-01 14:35 +0100
        Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-01 14:42 +0100
        Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 10:06 -0600
          Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-02 16:40 +0100
            Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 09:52 -0600
              Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-02 18:45 +0100
            Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 10:37 -0600
    Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity alsor@interia.pl - 2016-11-30 11:03 -0800
      Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-01 14:21 +0100
        Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-01 15:25 +0100
          Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Julian Alewine <lliian@lliianenpo.org> - 2016-12-01 14:31 +0000
        Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-02 11:15 -0800
          Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-02 12:17 -0800
            Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-03 09:47 -0800
              Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-03 09:56 -0800
                Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-03 10:49 -0800
                Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-12-03 10:58 -0800
                Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity alsor@interia.pl - 2016-12-03 11:31 -0800
          Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-02 22:18 +0100
      Re: The Fatal Achilles Heel of Einstein's Relativity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 17:30 +0000

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