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Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog (Was: First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..])

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	sci.math, sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog (Was: First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..])
Date	2026-08-31 18:03 +0200
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Hi,

I miss an ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog, a profile
that can run on small embedded devices, and only
single threaded. Like Python can do for example.

I deleted my previous post, since it drifted into
high performance computing. It was a reaction of
mine, to these results and how they were viewed.

Web Prolog result:

100,000 4.749 s

I get this here:

/* 100'000 iterations */
?- between(1,3,_), time(ping_pong), fail; true.
% Zeit 97.020 ms, Benutzer 2 %, Lips 735 k
% Zeit 95.040 ms, Benutzer 1 %, Lips 1057 k
% Zeit 98.740 ms, Benutzer 1 %, Lips 974 k
true.

But the results have a few drawbacks. They use a highly
specialized π-WAM Prolog subset and a highly specialized
Hack VM backend. Also the ping pong code was optimized.

So I guess this high performance view is too specifiec
for the actor model. So to get a more general comparison,
I tried something else. I used a Python implemented Prolog

and a Python asyncio.Future implemented one element
channels, the later equals SWI-Prolog queues with max_size=1.
Finally I used the classical ping pong. Now with PyPy as the Python

runtime the results are, 6x times faster than the shared database
on a SWI-Prolog server provided by Torbjörn Lager. Difficult
to judge maybe my machine is just 6x times faster? One could

install PyPy, download Dogelog Player and run it on the server:

?- between(1,3,_), time(ping_pong(100000)), fail; true.
% Time 812.000 ms, User 54 %, Lips 5977 k
% Time 703.000 ms, User 53 %, Lips 6915 k
% Time 766.000 ms, User 64 %, Lips 5339 k
true.

But this makes me ask, where would one see using for
example SWI-Prolog Engines for the actor model, so that it
becomes competitive to asyncio.Future? Any idea how to do it?

I guess asyncio.Future only uses a micro queue or something.
This would give the ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog, a profile
that can run on small embedded devices single threaded.

The opposite of high preformance computing (HPC).

Bye

See also:

https://trinity.elfenbenstornet.se/

P.S.: Here the source code, first what was used for validation:

  classic ping pong with channels and with logging
And the validation output:

  log of running N=3
And what was used for benchmarking:

  classic ping pong with channels and without logging

Mild Shock schrieb:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Ok, that was quick. While my AI Laptops were
 > around > 1000 CHF. The Mac Neo was around
 >  > 500 CHF. So we went already form AI Laptop
 >
 > to AI Notebook in a few months. Now Aduino
 > is playing pionier, having a CPU with a NPU
 > on board, some Qualcomm thingy.
 >
 > New Arduino Ventuno Q: Better than Raspberry Pi?
 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQS_xWsU00I
 >
 > The specs:
 >
 > Octa-core ARM Cortex CPU
 > Adreno GPU and Hexagon AI processor (up to 40 TOPS)
 > 16GB LPDDR5 RAM and 64GB eMMC storage
 > M.2 slot for NVMe SSD expansion
 >
 > The cost is around 300 CHF.
 >
 > Bye

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The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-22 21:00 +0200
  Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull [A pi-calculus Specification of Prolog] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 00:23 +0200
    Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens] (Re: Deadlock Exorcism: Switch from Push to Pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 08:43 +0200
      Trivial balancing example for (int i=0; i<global_id; i++) (Re: Why do you even need a mpmc queue? [Thunder Kittens]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 08:57 +0200
        Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions] (Was: Trivial balancing example for (int i=0; i<global_id; i++)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:11 +0200
          The Pixel Phone AI Experiment Song (Re: Enqueue/dequeue need not be fast and can spinn ["fairness" questions] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 09:21 +0200
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  Potential Python Recovery: Free Threading [3.13 release] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 10:19 +0200
    Re: Potential Python Recovery: Free Threading [3.13 release] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Ross Valikhanov <kavna@rl.ru> - 2026-07-23 16:01 +0000
  Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Ramon Dubenkov <omd@nnk.ru> - 2026-07-23 13:38 +0000
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    NIVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Was: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 19:11 +0200
    NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-23 19:12 +0200
      Re: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling] (Re: The things XILINX braught to the AMD table) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-23 11:22 -0600
        Micro penis mother sung arias (Was: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 14:38 +0200
          Re: Micro penis mother sung arias (Was: NVIDIA evacuated its Chinese market [Tau Scaling]) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 07:15 -0600
            Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Was: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:24 +0200
              Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus (Was: Micro penis mother sung arias) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:36 +0200
              Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 15:38 +0200
                Re: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM) (Re: Micro penis brain is in constant hiatus) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 08:31 -0600
                You are a moron, brainless putin payed (Was: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 18:01 +0200
                Re: You are a moron, brainless putin payed (Was: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 10:27 -0600
                Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool (Was: You are a moron, brainless putin payed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 19:45 +0200
                Re: Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool (Was: You are a moron, brainless putin payed) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 12:11 -0600
                LoL (Was: Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:12 +0200
                Re: LoL (Was: Yeah keep reading my posts, uninspired fool ) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-24 12:53 -0600
                Out of the blue accusation span 15 days [Empirical USENET study] (Was: Ignoramus or Ignorabimus: I don't care (π-WAM)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-24 20:26 +0200
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                No you didn't try, you only spammed old code (Was: Ignoramus / Ignorabimus Barometer: Almost 1 Month) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:15 +0200
                Food for thought: Bayesian Experimental Designer (Was: A brain desease of 20 days [Rossy Boy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-24 15:47 +0200
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    Re: Little Data Center on Your Palm [AI Laptops for 500 USD] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Bradford Babkoff <ffb@odbb.ru> - 2026-07-24 18:05 +0000
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            Re: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S] (Was: Not SIMD, a MIMD design for NVIDIA Volta) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 01:38 -0700
            The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training (Was: Why forget Bulgarians, never on my mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 10:56 +0200
              How speed up π-WAM with vector operations (Was: The evolution of hardware and GPT-2 training) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 11:08 +0200
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                The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Was: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 13:20 +0200
                Maybe they should have named it NVIDIA Einstein [Rossy Boy Toe Sucking] (Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta] (Was: AI accelerator extend from GPU to CPU [Zero Copying]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 17:14 +0200
                π-WAM is not adding decimals, it is removing decimals (Re: The invention of vector and matrix registers [NVIDIA Volta]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 18:36 +0200
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    The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar [Swarm AI] (Re: Hurry the blue bus doesnt stop indefinitely) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-21 11:30 +0200
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      New! P(tao) versus the Euler Turbine [Navier Stokes] (Re: The Bazar is dead, long live the Bazar) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 08:42 +0200
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  Got it. Or are you too stupid? [New Usenet Mantra] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-27 19:00 +0200
    Re: Got it. Or are you too stupid? [New Usenet Mantra] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Kim Baitchorov <bvhkoc@bmc.ru> - 2026-07-27 22:38 +0000
      Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy] (Was: Rossy Boy is neither Einstein nor Zweistein) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-28 11:29 +0200
        confused rossy boy is confused (Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:20 +0200
          Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy (Re: confused rossy boy is confused) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:21 +0200
            In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Re: Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:29 +0200
              Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type (Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:49 +0200
                Your strictness is your problem , not mine [See WebLLM] (Re: Run with minimum HTTPS and .mjs type) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 11:51 +0200
              Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Re: Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy) Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-07-29 07:06 -0600
              Re: In AI Acceleration nobody cares about CivetWeb (Re: Gemini, DeepSeek, OpenAI more clever than rossy boy) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 07:20 -0700
        You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:14 +0200
          Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting (Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:54 +0200
            Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads (Re: Hurry Rossy Boy, the blue bus is waiting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:56 +0200
              Forget any arithmetization of product FSA (Re: Look how they advertized CUDA and logical threads) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:57 +0200
          Re: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL (Re: Clueless about MIMD as usual [Flynn's Taxonomy]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 10:48 -0700
            Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator] (Was: You are still chewing on SIMD. LoL) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:03 +0200
              I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 20:24 +0200
                Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 12:27 -0700
                Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 13:40 -0700
                Re: I don't use Rust, you are crazy [Jump off a bridge, idiot] (Re: Rossy Boys tears could cool a data center [pi-WAM Interleaved Synchronized Emulator]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 17:05 -0700
                Do a YouTube video about it (Was: I don't use Rust, you are crazy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:00 +0200
                Standing on the shoulders of giants (Was: Do a YouTube video about it) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 03:16 +0200
                Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants (Was: Do a YouTube video about it) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 06:10 -0700
                You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 15:16 +0200
                Re: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc.. (Re: Standing on the shoulders of giants) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 06:32 -0700
                How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop] (Was: You Thief! Stealing Szemeredi, Aristotle, Leibniz, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 17:54 +0200
                tatistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Re: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 18:21 +0200
                Statistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Was: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-04 18:23 +0200
                Re: Statistics gave up, no salient truth [Signal Collapse] (Was: How Rossy Boys plagiarism works [Copy Paste Slop]) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 20:13 -0700
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                A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 23:12 +0200
                Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Alexey Bessonov <nexes@ebxsvs.ru> - 2026-07-29 21:24 +0000
                Summer Challenge: libSQL = Prolog+Modes [VDBE versus π-WAM] (Re: A funny Q16.16 experiment with Hack) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 11:26 +0200
                I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:35 +0200
                Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch [4 Months total JavaScript, Python and Java] (Re: Hack ecosystem ignorance paired with paranoia [Nand to Tetris]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:49 +0200
                For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 19:50 +0200
                Corr.: 4 Months --> 4 Weeks (Re: For WebGPU I first had SIMD in mind) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 20:05 +0200
                MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it] (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:30 +0200
                Not declarative with PHI (Φ) nodes (Re: MIPS is a big Huffman mess [But Hack could do it]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-30 22:42 +0200
                Quo Vadis: Extend investigations to WebNN (Re: I wrote Hack VM for π-WAM from scratch) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-31 20:45 +0200
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                Axiom of Determinacy as SCXML × SCXML [AI Chatbot Help] (Re: Rust Eggs for Statechart Proof Certificates? (Re: The Flagging of Students for not Thinking [Elixir Evolution])) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-05 16:26 +0200
  Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 13:02 +0200
    AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading (Was: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:01 +0200
      Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation [golang channels] (Was: AI Accelerators and ISO Prolog multi-threading) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-07-29 17:05 +0200
        Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] (Was: Actor/Erlang is dead, no Thread and Mailbox conflation) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 02:29 +0200
          Re: Can library(ironpaw) repurpose FFT hardware [Glimps into Ryzen AI 7 350] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-08-01 04:10 +0200
    Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 12:17 +0200
      NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) (Was: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-01 14:09 +0200
        First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..] (Re: NPUs doing 2d chess comms (Manhattan Distance or L1 Norm) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-26 00:08 +0200
          Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog (Was: First AI laptops, now AI single-boarders [Budget, Budget, ..]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-31 18:03 +0200
            Food for thought: Le Petit Bistro as a Trinity Use Case (Re: Food for thought: ISOMICRO profile of Web Prolog) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-02 21:52 +0200
              Giga Lips for Prolog based Chatting (Re: Food for thought: Le Petit Bistro as a Trinity Use Case) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-02 21:56 +0200
                Google holds the keys to the AI kingdom [WebClaw Dominance] (Re: Giga Lips for Prolog based Chatting) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-03 09:46 +0200
      Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 02:47 +0200
        npm install webgpu [Google Dawn] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 03:01 +0200
          GPU elasticity was already invented in 2008 with CUDA (Re: npm install webgpu [Google Dawn]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:59 +0200
        Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-03 00:34 +0800
          Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 10:41 -0700
            Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 11:13 -0700
        Re: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions (Re: Tablet and phone UBS-C remote debugging) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 12:42 -0700
          You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:09 +0200
            Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:17 +0200
            Summary of 100 questions Chris M. Thomasson can ask (Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:20 +0200
            Re: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES] (Was: Chris M. Thomasson can ask 100 more questions) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-03 12:55 -0700
              Liar and spammer (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-03 22:16 +0200
                Re: Liar and spammer (Was: You posted that already, but you didn't listen [I NEED BOUNDED QUEUES]) Rosalino Kablahov <oaror@vla.ru> - 2026-08-03 21:50 +0000
    Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-08 09:21 +0200
      Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism] (Was: Synthetic Multilanguage Autoformalization Dataset [Informath project] (Re: Lamas in a cradle and Lamas on the edge [Red Pyjama] ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 15:17 +0200
        Everybody does eat and sleep [The SK hynix Story] (Re: Six Proofs and Generally Inteligent Systems [EyeProlog Pseudo Scientism]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-15 18:49 +0200
  Even send_color and recv_color can block [Cerebras Waver] Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-02 23:33 +0200
  GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries (Was: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 14:34 +0200
    What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip] (Re: GPU Elasticity: Collective Communications Libraries) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-07 18:06 +0200
      The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels] (Was: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:23 +0200
        The luminaries of duct-tape engineering [Sweeney and Torvald] (Re: The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-11 16:56 +0200
        Re: The Mac Neo is a Budget Monster [GPU Channels] (Was: What are Flits and Phits? [Network on a Chip]) Ariquer Mihailov <ii@eor.ru> - 2026-08-11 15:16 +0000
  Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-09 21:21 +0200
    Giant Shoulders for AI Surprises (Re: Cristallina: Thank you for the Beam) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 14:58 +0200
      Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:24 +0200
        How to shoot yourself in the foot (Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-18 16:47 +0200
        Re: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog? [Prolog Education Group] Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-18 08:59 -0600
        William A. Howard solved all his 99 problems (Was: Loderunner Enemy AI better than SWI-Prolog?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-08-23 01:46 +0200
  Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn [9-11 Math Incident] (Was: Accelerate Lean! From Theorem 3.11 to Corollary 3.12 [ZMC]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-11 20:40 +0200
    Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-12 11:27 +0200
      Kurzweils prognostic failure [Nabokov Fallacy] (Re: Math has found a new Muse [Grothendieck Hodges] (Re: Harmonic Analysis collides with Gabriels Horn)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-12 12:11 +0200
  Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage] (Re: The Wuhan Virus that destroyed Python [ggml Manifesto]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-15 14:33 +0200
    More from the Trailer Park Boys (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-15 19:41 +0200
      Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-16 13:27 +0200
        Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 08:41 -0700
          Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-16 09:44 -0700
            Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 09:40 -0700
        Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Was: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-19 13:01 +0200
          Re: Kundalini III: Modus Barbara versus Stock Pumping (Was: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL)) Walton Havanov <nnht@vla.ru> - 2026-09-19 16:02 +0000
          The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 16:26 +0200
            Re: The A2A project: Agent cards for collaboration (Was: A real Terence Tao Ingestion Problem) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 00:36 +0800
        Re: Interdisplinary Research for kill -9 (SIGKILL) (Re: More from the Trailer Park Boys) Branden Baraboshkin <naoea@kiadi.ru> - 2026-09-19 15:39 +0000
    Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence" (Was: Mojo: The Small Hands Paradox [Maastrichtian Stage]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 18:03 +0200
      The Ben Goertzel talkie genes (Was: Re: Self censoring of not talking "superintelligence") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2026-09-22 18:05 +0200

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