Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply?

From	"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject	Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply?
Date	2026-08-14 22:41 -0700
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On 8/10/2026 10:29 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 08/10/2026 08:49 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 8/10/2026 3:25 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2026 01:36 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/2026 11:09 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>> Am Freitag000007, 07.08.2026 um 20:06 schrieb Lane W:
>>>>>> Presley Elepov wrote:
>>>>>>> Lane W wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My best find was:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Bi-quaternion fields as physical foundation of a spacetime,
>>>>>>>>>> which had
>>>>>>>>>> an internal structure"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sorry, my bad, i can see now you are an idiot. You cannot just put
>>>>>>>>> complex numbers in nature where none exists. In Nature, the
>>>>>>>>> imaginary
>>>>>>>>> part is there where it exists, as measurable quantity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Imaginary numbers are all over the place. So sometimes you "can
>>>>>>>> just put
>>>>>>>> complex numbers" if you happen to align them on the ones that are
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> who the fuck is talking about numbers, imbecile; we are about doing
>>>>>>> physics here; are you so fucking stoopid not seeing the difference`
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your distances are in meters, then
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    6 + 8 i meters is read as "six and eight i meters."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand your reluctance. Show me the problem you are
>>>>>> working on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spacetime intervals are not measured in meters.
>>>>>
>>>>> The meter is a measure of length in what we call 'real space'.
>>>>>
>>>>> That measure has no imaginary components (by definition).
>>>> Think of an epsilon we say, for now that's the "smallest" unit, blah
>>>> blah.... the distance between to n-ary points is just a float, double,
>>>> whatever.... ;^)
>>>
>>> The non-existence of real mathematical infinitesimals
>>> is as closed-minded a concept as there not existing
>>> imaginary nor negative numbers.
>>>
>>> It's not the continuum's fault that it's "perfect".
>>
>> The granularity of the continuum... Well, perhaps is infinitesimally
>> fine grain? There is no smallest granule? We say this is the smallest. A
>> month later, we can see smaller... ;^)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Finite-element-analysis attains to real analysis, to be sure.
>>> "Obtains" is a bit stronger sort of result, where for example
>>> the big bot-chat the other day arrived at that "non-sofic groups exist"
>>> putting a hole in all sorts conclusions that the merely rational
>>> was complete. Of course nobody needs a big bot-chat to figure that out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> Yeah, it's an idea. The infinitely-divisible, or infinitely-divisible,
> this is the usual property given to members of the rational field,
> then the infinitely-divided is with an actual infinity, then the
> resulting iota-values only have addition since they're already
> infinitely-divided and don't have division or its inverse left in it.
> 
> Mathematics and then physics is mostly terrified of infinity
> and avoids zero too, yet at the same time it's perfectly natural
> in many sorts of accounts. Then though it demands a sort of
> "great atlas of mathematical independence" since otherwise
> they're as "giant monsters of mathematical independence"
> which fight each other and everything around them, that mostly
> mathematics the standard way has a giant shrine to Eudoxus when
> Xenocrates and Democritus also have perfectly usual accounts that
> then make for Newton's fluxions and Leibniz' differential, simply,
> with of course Maclaurin's great account of the formalism of
> mathematical infinitesimal analysis that later Cauchy-Weierstrass
> mostly copy.
> 
> Or, Maclaurin's great account on infinitesimal analysis is
> probably the first modern sort of account that basically
> gives what Cauchy-Weierstrass make of Eudoxus, who basically
> had delta-epsilonics since antiquity.
> 
> Continuous functions are, in a sense, not really continuous
> functions, when their domain and range aren't continuous domains.

We have some trouble being finite beings. However, we can ponder on the 
infinite.

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Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Hayden Maksimov <mmivy@eh.ru> - 2026-08-01 14:00 +0000
  Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-08-03 06:28 +0200
    Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Brooks Mikhaltsov <oov@vhitsair.ru> - 2026-08-03 12:01 +0000
      Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-08-05 07:21 +0200
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                Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Presley Elepov <epse@eeveele.ru> - 2026-08-07 17:41 +0000
                Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-07 12:06 -0600
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      Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-08-06 05:33 +0200
        Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 21:48 -0700
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            Re: What amount of acceleration involved is too high for SR to apply? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-08-07 08:32 +0200
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