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| From | olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math, sci.math.symbolic |
| Subject | Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? |
| Date | 2026-05-01 18:36 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <10t3de4$1pj6v$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 5/1/2026 6:27 PM, dart200 wrote: > On 5/1/26 4:20 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 5/1/2026 6:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>> On 5/1/26 2:53 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/1/2026 4:46 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>> On 5/1/26 2:19 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 5/1/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>> you seem to agree the halting problem isn't solvable, >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you would fucking pay close attention: >>>>>> The halting problem is unsolvable for the same >>>>>> reason that the question: What time is it (yes or no)? >>>>>> is unsolvable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe if you would repeat that to yourself >>>>>> 10,000 times you would bother to notice that >>>>>> I said this at least once. >>>>> >>>>> ok. i don't necessarily disagree, the particular input is >>>>> undecidable due to the form of the input itself... >>>>> >>>>> the problem i'm have with ur proposals is: >>>>> >>>>> _why do i care_ ??? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't give a rat's ass why you care. >>>> Objectively it is important because computable >>>> truth would expose the liars and thus avoid >>>> killing the whole planet for a few extra bucks. >>> >>> what are they even lying about??? >>> >> >> https://www.researchgate.net/ >> publication/336568434_Severe_anthropogenic_climate_change_proven_entirely_with_verifiable_facts >> > > climate change is a severe existential threat i agree. > > i don't see how the halting problem or incompleteness relates as neither > are even mentioned in the paper > Because of fundamental misconceptions still exist about "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language" we continue to lack a reliable system that divides lies from truth. This prevents the required quorum of the public to implement sufficient climate change remedial measures. >>>> >>>>> can we further our ability in any way shape or form with this >>>>> understanding??? >>>>> >>>> >>>> An infallible system of truth can be created on this >>>> basis. >>> >>> what more truth have you proposed??? the _same_ problem remains with >>> undecidable input... >>> >> >> Are you fucking stupid? >> >> The halting problem is unsolvable for the same >> reason that the question: What time is it (yes or no)? >> is unsolvable. >> >> The halting problem is unsolvable for the same >> reason that the question: What time is it (yes or no)? >> is unsolvable. >> >> The halting problem is unsolvable for the same >> reason that the question: What time is it (yes or no)? >> is unsolvable. >> >> The halting problem is unsolvable for the same >> reason that the question: What time is it (yes or no)? >> is unsolvable. >> >> The halting problem is unsolvable for the same >> reason that the question: What time is it (yes or no)? >> is unsolvable. >> > > ok, so the problem remains unsolvable... i'm failing to see how this is > progress > Are to too stupid to see that it only remains unsolvable because it has been stupidly incorrect the whole time? >> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> so u seem to agree with consensus on the matter, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yet you're going on and on about them being wrong about why??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thing is: why do i care??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what _new abilities_ does ur supposed novel understanding >>>>>>> actually unlock??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> can we _do_ anything more it with it??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cause to me it seems ur proposing a new explanation, for the >>>>>>> _same_ limitations, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and that is _not at all_ exciting to think about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> why would i care about a "new" explanation for the _same_ >>>>>>> limitations??? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Copyright 2026 Olcott My 28 year goal has been to make "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language" reliably computable for the entire body of knowledge. The complete structure of this system is now defined. This required establishing a new foundation
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Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 16:19 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 14:46 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 16:53 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 16:13 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 18:20 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 16:27 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 18:36 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 17:51 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 20:23 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 20:13 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 22:56 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 01:21 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 07:45 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:09 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 14:49 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 15:10 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 13:27 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 15:52 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:12 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 23:00 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:23 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-03 08:59 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-05-04 09:21 +0300
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 10:29 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-05-05 11:50 +0300
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 08:54 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-05-07 10:09 +0300
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-14 02:14 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 19:07 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 20:14 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 20:16 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 20:21 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-06-11 22:17 +0100
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-11 17:19 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-06-12 15:28 +0100
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-06-12 11:03 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 20:57 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 07:32 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:59 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:08 -0700
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 14:48 -0500
Re: polcott wtf are you even arguing??? dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 13:20 -0700
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