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Doing uux with pi-calculus and WAM (Was: Milners fickle() in pi-WAM [For fun and profit])

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.logic, sci.math, sci.physics
Subject Doing uux with pi-calculus and WAM (Was: Milners fickle() in pi-WAM [For fun and profit])
Date 2026-08-24 20:14 +0200
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Hi,

I find an early precendent of a command
in a unix system, which has an interesting
flavor, that goes beyond Web Prolog Trinity

RPC nonsense. Take this command:

uux merlin!wc < venus!/paper/*.tex > mars!/stats/*.txt
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.1.0?topic=u-uux-command

So basically wc, i.e. word count is executed
on merlin, takes data from venus and moves it
to marks. We can do the same with pi-WAM,

currently experimenting with a non-blocking
execute/1 built-in, spawn/2:

?- chan(In), chan(Out),
    spawn((recv(3,[Z]), wc(Z,T), send(4,[T])), [comm([In,Out])]),
    venus(X),
    send(In,[X]), repeat, recv(Out,[Y]),
    mars(Y).

But maybe introducing in/1 and out/1 options
to spawn/2, would be more easier to write,
now I have split spawn/2 into prepare/3 and run/1.

?- chan(In), chan(Out),
    prepare(wc(X,Y)), [in(X), out(Y)], P),
    venus(X),
    run(P),
    mars(Y).

But the point is to do prepare/3 only once,
and do mars and venus later. It also reflects
the ordering on a uux command:

1               2                    3
uux merlin!wc < venus!/paper/*.tex > mars!/stats/*.txt

But we wouldn't do it alone for this cosmetic.
The idea is that the spawned process is using
its channels, to do more than only one job.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Milners fickle() is here:
> 
> Functions as processes
> https://inria.hal.science/inria-00075405
> 
> After Theorem 7.7:
> 
> So in P we construct a fickle ‘function’ which
> behaves differently on successive calls.
> 
> Here is a pi-WAM run in Dogelog Player, using the emulator:
> 
> Dogelog Spieler 2.2.4, Oracle Corporation, Java 26.0.1
> (c) 1985-2026, XLOG Technologies AG, Schweiz
> ?- ensure_loaded(library(edge/brainfog)).
> true.
> ?- emulate((between(1,2,Y),in(X),out(Y))).
> : 0
> 1
> : 0
> 2
> fail.
> 
> The emulator is portable, can be run every Prolog
> system. But it is only 1 process. So its better
> to use the n process backends for CPU or GPU.
> 
> Which are less portable, not anymore pure Prolog,
> a great deal of thread start and join infrastructure
> as well, and a native Hack VM.
> 
> The comms across process is not yet implemented.
> But the in/1 and out/1 instructions are already
> there. But they currently go to stdin/stdout.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The pi in pi-WAM refers to pi-calculus.
>> pi-calculus has not atomic(i32).
>>
>> The π-calculus is a universal model of computation.
>> This was first observed by Milner in his paper
>> "Functions as Processes",[10] in which he presents
>> two encodings of the lambda-calculus in the π-calculus.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A0-calculus
>>
>> LoL
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Chris M. Thomasson schrieb:
>>> On 7/17/2026 2:16 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I should write a blog post, titled
>>>> Introduction to AI Accelerator Prolog:
>>>>
>>>> - specialized jobs π-WAM (currently integerish stuff)
>>>> - π-WAM uses no atomics, only comms
>>>> - π-WAM uses warp, 30-40% more speed
>>>> - π-WAM runs on GPU and CPU
>>>> - π-WAM runs from within JavaScript, Python and Java
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> No atomic fetch-and-add?
>>
> 

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