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Re: Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone

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In sci.physics jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> In sci.physics jim <""sjedgingN0Sp\"@m@mwt.net"> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Scientists Turn Carbon Dioxide Emissions into Stone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> June 10, 2016
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.com/2016/06/scientists-turn-carbon-dioxide.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Turning carbon emissions to stone is even dumber
>>>>>>>> than doing nothing at all. And doing nothing is
>>>>>>>> pretty stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The real problem is not that man has put too much
>>>>>>>> carbon into the atmosphere. The problem is man's
>>>>>>>> agriculture production model has destroyed too
>>>>>>>> much carbon from the world's soils. If all the
>>>>>>>> carbon that currently exists in the atmosphere
>>>>>>>> were sequestered in the farmland soils of the
>>>>>>>> world it would improve the quality of those soils
>>>>>>>> enormously but the quality of those soils would still
>>>>>>>> be well below their natural levels before farming
>>>>>>>> destroyed the carbon content of soil. .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plants absorb carbon from the air; very little from the ground.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plants are the source of carbon in the soil. Increasing
>>>>> carbon content of the soil increases the ability of plants
>>>>> to remove more carbon from the air and store more in the
>>>>> soil. If this natural process were not being interfered with
>>>>> by counter producrive agricultural practices, there would be
>>>>> no problem with excess carbon in the atmosphere.
>>>>> http://regenerationinternational.org/2015/10/07/soil-carbon-putting-carbon-back-where-it-belongs-in-the-earth/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That carbon in the soil is in the form of dead, decaying plants, not CO2.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In healthy soil a lot of it is living organisms
>>>
>>>> Which do you think happens after all the tomatoes are picked for the season?
>>>>
>>>> A: The farmer pays someone to pull out the plants and haul them away.
>>>>
>>>> B: The farmer plows the plants back into the soil.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Plowing is the most destructive to soil carbon.
>>> The soil loses more carbon into the atmosphere by
>>> doing that then is gained. One third of man's
>>> green house gas emissions comes from that
>>> sort of counter productive agricultural practices.
>>>
>>> Instead of snipping and running from it you might
>>> listen to wisdom of a knowledgeable farmer
>>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfTZ0rnowcc&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> A bunch of arm waving, hysterical screed fell of contradictions and
>> irrelevancies.
>>
>> Things like ADD and Alzheimer's have nothing to do with crops.
>>
> 
> Lousy nutrition is irrelevant and paying enormous
> medical bills is irrelevant we should all just pretend
> these problems don't exist and are not related.

All irrelevant to farming, kook.

>> Where do you think the organic matter he goes on about comes from?
>>
> 
> More important what do you think happened to 50%-80%
> of the organic matter that used to be in the soil?

Some wound up in new crops, some washed away, some blew away to be
deposited somewhere else, kook.

> Where do you think most of that carbon ended up?
> The total amount of carbon depleted from the world's
> farmland (including land that used to support farming)
> is more carbon than exists in the atmosphere.

Where do you think it ended up, kook?

> The point was that continual loss of carbon from
> the soil due to the traditional agricultural practices
> has decreased productivity of the soil while at the same
> time continually increasing input costs. To
> put it simply depleting soil carbon is in the
> long run excessively stupid.

What is with your silly fixation on carbon. kook?

Carbon in soil is only relevant to crops when it is bound in organic
matter, i.e. dead decaying plants, kook.

>> No farmer pays crop dusters unless they have to.
>>
> The point was only the stupid have to and there
> are a lot of farmers waking up to that fact.

Farmers only spray when they have to, kook.

To do otherwise is a blazingly stupid waste of money, kook.

> Depleting carbon from the soil has put farming
> in a hole and more chemical applications are only
> digging that hole deeper.

Carbon, carbon, carbon, carbon.

>> The US is not North Dakota and the low population is a result of nothing
>> to do in the state but farm.
> 
> Talk about hysterical arm waving. What does the
> population of ND have to do with anything?

It was one of your fat heroes, who if so interested in health would lose
about 40 pounds, talking points, kook.

Did you not listen to the video, kook?

>>
>> He never uses the word carbon.
> 
> 
> You weren't listening.

Count the number of times he uses the word carbon by itself, kook.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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