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Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere

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everyone hates me wrote:


>> >> >> > Speculative.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > "The electric vehicle of the future will be carbon negative
>> >> >> > (reducing the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide) not just
>> >> >> > carbon neutral (not adding CO2 to the atmosphere), say
>> >> >> > researchers at Vanderbilt University and George Washington
>> >> >> > University (GWU).
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > The trick: replace graphite electrodes in lithium-ion batteries
>> >> >> > (used in electric vehicles) with carbon nanotubes and carbon
>> >> >> > nanofibers recovered from carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The
>> >> >> > new technology could also be used in sodium-ion batteries,
>> >> >> > currently under development for large-scale applications, such as
>> >> >> > the electric grid."
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > http://www.kurzweilai.net/converting-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-into-carbon-nanotubes-for-use-in-batteries
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The world puffs out 10 beeeelion tons of CO2.
>> >> >> Hardly enough to grow 50 x 50 mile square of forest.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Quaaackhhhh!!!
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Last 100 years of emissions would not grow you
>> >> >> 500 x 500 miles square of forest.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Climate trolls have a lot of explaining to do.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The net CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04%.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Put that much amount of CO2 in a jar to measure
>> >> >> heat retention, and you got pretty close to zero.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Except of course that heat retention is not the parameter to
>> >> > measure.
>> >> > 
>> >> > You need to measure incoming short wave radiation compared to
>> >> > outgoing long wave radiation as you increase the CO2.
>> >> 
>> >> Measure it all you want - the ground and water does a better job
>> >> of this than CO2.
>> >>  
>> >> > And you have omitted to mention that the biggest contributor (by a
>> >> > long way) towards the greenhouse effect is water vapour.
>> >> 
>> >> No I woudn't. 2/3rd of the globe is water and water vapour
>> >> heat retention is 99.99% of the total heat in the atmosphere.
>> >> 
>> >> CO2 has no effect on this.
>> >> 
>> >>  
>> >> > The warmer the atmosphere becomes, the greater the volume of water
>> >> > vapour it can hold.
>> >> 
>> >> False.
>> > 
>> > True.
>> > 
>> > Why do you think clouds form?
>> 
>> You are distorting the context.
> 
> I was actually describing the physics, which are facts.

You were conflating facts with glow ball wamming

> If you wish to see facts as distortions then that is your perogative.

Conflating glow ball wamming fruit cake pseudo science with
real science will kill you in the end.

I've dealt with green peace trolls out on the streets
who are genuinely in shock when they
realize they have been conned.

>> The globe is not warmied by CO2 as claimed by climate trolls
>> to hold more water in the atmosphere.
> 
> Warmer seas will evaporate more water into the atmosphere and a warmer
> atmosphere will be able to hold more water vapour. And so the cycle will
> continue.
 
Not by a million mile by CO2.

 
>> The temperature of the earth rises an average 1 degree per hour
>> during the day and loses 1 degree per hour in the night.
> 
> Do you believe that sea surface temperatures remain static throughout the
> year?

No it doesn't.

But it must hurt your glow ball wammied psuedo science idiocy
a lot to know the Earth's land temperature drops by average 1 degree
per hour during the night and rises 1 degree per hour during the day.

We seem to have climate change of 1 degree ever hour.

Tut tut. Say it aint so!! :) :) :) 


> And if not, how can that happen under your temperature equilibrium
> scenario?

What?
There is NEVER equilibrium.
What do you think causes currents and storms?

The bulk of the sun is also rotating every 6.5 days.
Its also resurfacing every few days.

So no weather prediction can be more than 6.5 days accurate.
Becaus the bulk of the weather is caused by the Sun
and how Earth receives its energy.
It gains 1 degree per hour durig the day
and loses 1 degree per hour average during night.

If weather can be no more accurate than 6.5 days,
then how are climate trolls going to predict
years in advance without trolling???????


>> CO2 has no place in there to make the atmosphere warmer
>> to hold more water.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Because as air rises and cools, the cooler air cannot contain the same
>> > amount of water vapour and so the excess condenses into tiny water
>> > droplets (ice crystals if the temperature is low enough).
>> > 
>> > Have you never breathed onto a window pane and wondered why it will
>> > mist up on a cold day?
>> > 
>> > I cannot discuss this with an ignoramus.
>> > 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 11:41 +0000
  Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 07:05 -0500
    Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 12:24 +0000
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 08:02 -0500
        Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 15:07 +0200
        Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 15:26 +0000
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 20:11 +0200
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:21 +0000
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 13:36 -0500
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:47 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 22:23 +0200
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-10 20:44 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-12 13:45 +0200
      Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 08:09 -0500
        Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 15:21 +0000
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 17:22 +0200
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2016-10-09 11:31 -0400
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-10-09 17:39 +0200
          Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 11:27 -0500
            Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:32 +0000
              Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 13:46 -0500
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-10-09 18:55 +0000
                Re: Cars that remove carbon from the atmosphere "everyone hates me" <ssos@bungay.com> - 2016-10-09 14:02 -0500
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