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Extract Free Elections From Earth

Started byKevin Foster <kfoster@internode.com>
First post2016-10-01 17:46 +1000
Last post2016-11-03 10:10 -0700
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  Extract Free Elections From Earth Kevin Foster <kfoster@internode.com> - 2016-10-01 17:46 +1000
    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2016-10-01 11:08 +0100
    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-10-01 20:36 +1000
    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-01 11:42 +0000
    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-10-01 08:41 -0700
    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-02 10:35 -0400
      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-11-02 10:42 -0400
        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-03 09:21 -0700
          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-11-03 12:25 -0400
            Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-03 10:07 -0700
      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-02 08:15 -0700
      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-02 13:45 -0700
        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-02 14:43 -0700
          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2016-11-02 17:48 -0700
            Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-02 19:28 -0700
              Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2016-11-02 23:04 -0500
              Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2016-11-02 23:34 -0400
                Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-02 21:19 -0700
                  Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2016-11-03 00:35 -0400
                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-03 01:44 -0400
                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-11-03 12:12 -0400
                  Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-03 09:16 -0700
                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2016-11-03 14:26 -0400
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> - 2016-11-03 21:25 -0400
                        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth krw <krw@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-03 21:39 -0400
                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-03 19:53 -0700
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-11-04 09:40 +0000
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2016-11-04 17:46 -0700
                        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 11:42 -0800
                          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 19:39 -0500
                            Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-10 16:54 -0800
                            Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-10 20:34 -0500
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 10:37 -0800
                        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 11:49 -0800
                          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-08 13:28 -0800
                          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 19:40 -0500
                            Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-10 17:02 -0800
                              Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-11-11 11:48 +0000
                                Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-11 05:12 -0800
                                Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-11-13 12:30 +0000
                                  Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-13 06:42 -0800
                                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-11-13 15:03 +0000
                                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-11-13 09:14 -0800
                                  Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-13 10:25 -0500
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 19:36 -0500
                Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Chris <c@b.a> - 2016-11-03 16:48 +1100
                  Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-11-03 08:48 -0700
                    Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-09 18:15 -0500
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-11-10 10:04 +0000
                        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-12 08:24 -0500
                          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2016-11-13 03:37 -0800
                            Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-18 18:11 -0500
                              Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 12:10 -0800
                                Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-20 09:35 -0500
                                  Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-20 23:06 -0800
                      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-10 20:36 -0500
                        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> - 2016-11-12 08:25 -0500
                          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth krw <krw@somewhere.com> - 2016-11-12 09:37 -0500
                          Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2016-11-13 06:54 -0800
              Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-02 23:53 -0700
              Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2016-11-03 08:13 +0000
      Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-11-02 15:54 -0700
        Re: Extract Free Elections From Earth mrdarrett@gmail.com - 2016-11-03 10:10 -0700

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#435337

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2016-11-13 06:42 -0800
Message-ID<31032785-d2de-484d-b025-013ccfbfb2bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#435317
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:30:05 PM UTC+11, Rob wrote:
> Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
> > On 2016-11-11, jurb6006@gmail.com <jurb6006@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In fact anything you burn for fuel is actually gas. The energy comes
> >> out in the for of gas, even from coal. 
> >
> > Bullshit (not everything). Eg.  carbon evaporates at 3900K and charcoal burns 
> > a lot cooler than that. 
> 
> When coal is heated it releases a mixture of gases that burn.  Not evaporated
> carbon, but H2, CH4, CO etc.

Coal is mostly carbon, with some water. There's still a bit of residual hydrogen, but not much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bituminous_coal

Seams of bituminous coal squeeze out firedamp, which is mostly methane. It has got most of the way to graphite, but occasional hydrogen atoms still hang to bits of the fused benzene ring structures that move on to become graphite.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#435340

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2016-11-13 15:03 +0000
Message-ID<slrno2h05i.55r.nomail@xs9.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#435337
bill.sloman@ieee.org <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:30:05 PM UTC+11, Rob wrote:
>> Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
>> > On 2016-11-11, jurb6006@gmail.com <jurb6006@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In fact anything you burn for fuel is actually gas. The energy comes
>> >> out in the for of gas, even from coal. 
>> >
>> > Bullshit (not everything). Eg.  carbon evaporates at 3900K and charcoal burns 
>> > a lot cooler than that. 
>> 
>> When coal is heated it releases a mixture of gases that burn.  Not evaporated
>> carbon, but H2, CH4, CO etc.
>
> Coal is mostly carbon, with some water. There's still a bit of residual hydrogen, but not much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas

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#435366

FromJeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Date2016-11-13 09:14 -0800
Message-ID<pk6h2cl15rio916dfcarnboqjmcj2msaer@4ax.com>
In reply to#435337
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:42:29 -0800 (PST), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

>Seams of bituminous coal squeeze out firedamp, which is mostly 
>methane. It has got most of the way to graphite, but occasional 
>hydrogen atoms still hang to bits of the fused benzene ring 
>structures that move on to become graphite.

Most of the undesireable compounds can be removed using microwave
heating:
<http://drycol.com>
<http://forum.bulk-online.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19149&d=1267741801>
<https://www.google.com/patents/US20070151147>
which evaporates out the water, sulfur, etc.  The final result is
fairly close to pure graphite (carbon) depending mostly on exposure
time.

-- 
Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

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#435342

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-13 10:25 -0500
Message-ID<o0a0kl$c2s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#435317
On 11/13/2016 7:30 AM, Rob wrote:
> Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-11, jurb6006@gmail.com <jurb6006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In fact anything you burn for fuel is actually gas. The energy comes
>>> out in the for of gas, even from coal.
>>
>> Bullshit (not everything). Eg.  carbon evaporates at 3900K and charcoal burns
>> a lot cooler than that.
>
> When coal is heated it releases a mixture of gases that burn.  Not evaporated
> carbon, but H2, CH4, CO etc.

Coal does not burn like wood or other fossil fuels.  It has a much lower 
hydrogen content as the carbon is mostly in fused aromatic rings... 
meaning a *lot* more carbon than hydrogen.  So while heating coal to the 
combustion point will produce some gasses, mostly coal will burn the 
carbon.

Wood burns by breaking down the largely hydrogen, oxygen and carbon 
contained in the typical biologically created compounds into simpler 
molecules which form volatile gasses.  These gasses then burn making the 
pretty flames.  Once those compounds have all been burned what remains 
is "charcoal" which is not entirely unlike coal (hence the name) and 
burns without giving off further flammable gasses.

These coals burn at higher temperatures than the gasses giving off a lot 
of radiant heat rather than producing hot gasses which exit the chimney 
without producing so much heat in the room.  Starting with coal bypasses 
the gas generating stage and produces radiant heat from the start.

-- 

Rick C

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#434767

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-10 19:36 -0500
Message-ID<o033pv$q07$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#433795
On 11/3/2016 10:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 09:16:53 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 9:19:20 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 23:34:00 -0400, "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u38l1c5926gpah7aggvq1ivrdenak6fg5f@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:48:20 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
>>>>> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-7, Michael Terrell
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Kevin Foster wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This researcher has a number of videos in which he appears to draw
>>>>>>>>>> current from the Earth to supplement an RF oscillator that lights
>>>>>>>>>> LED's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufTw6ECoz4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More light with the same current. Any idea what is happening here?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Foster
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Extract Free Elections?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Extract-Free, perhaps?  Elections without any vanilla extract added?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I buy only gluten-free electrons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aren't those expensive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still using dollar store electrons...
>>>>>> seem as good as the more expensive ones. :^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George H.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next you'll be telling me that all electrons are the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many electrons can you get for a dollar?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>>>>
>>>>> lunatic fringe electronics
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well seeing that they are made in China, would it not be dependant on the
>>>> exchange rate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can get about 80 pounds of sand for a dollar, which includes about
>>> 3e29 electrons, and some other things for free.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>>
>>> lunatic fringe electronics
>>
>>
>> $1 for 80 lbs, oh wow, where?  I'm overpaying for sand at Home Depot...
>>
>> M
>
> $25 a ton for river sand, in some places.
>
> So, what's the cheapest stuff available per pound? Stone? Water?
>
> Maybe something that people pay to get rid of?

I think the cheapest stuff is air... still free!

-- 

Rick C

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#433586

FromChris <c@b.a>
Date2016-11-03 16:48 +1100
Message-ID<nvej3v$1fh0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#433578
On 3/11/2016 2:34 PM, tom wrote:
> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in message
> news:u38l1c5926gpah7aggvq1ivrdenak6fg5f@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:48:20 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
>> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-7, Michael Terrell
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Kevin Foster wrote:
>>>>>>> This researcher has a number of videos in which he appears to draw
>>>>>>> current from the Earth to supplement an RF oscillator that lights
>>>>>>> LED's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufTw6ECoz4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More light with the same current. Any idea what is happening here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kevin Foster
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Extract Free Elections?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Extract-Free, perhaps?  Elections without any vanilla extract added?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> I buy only gluten-free electrons.
>>>
>>> Aren't those expensive?
>>>
>>> I'm still using dollar store electrons...
>>> seem as good as the more expensive ones. :^)
>>>
>>> George H.
>>
>> Next you'll be telling me that all electrons are the same.
>>
>> How many electrons can you get for a dollar?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>
>> lunatic fringe electronics
>>
>
> Well seeing that they are made in China, would it not be dependant on the
> exchange rate?

Watch out for fakes though!

--
Cheers,
Chris.

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#433639

FromJohn Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com>
Date2016-11-03 08:48 -0700
Message-ID<11nm1ctvjqluv9u2c7jq556i88n7kb92up@4ax.com>
In reply to#433586
On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:48:49 +1100, Chris <c@b.a> wrote:

>On 3/11/2016 2:34 PM, tom wrote:
>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in message
>> news:u38l1c5926gpah7aggvq1ivrdenak6fg5f@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:48:20 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
>>> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 13:45:23 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-7, Michael Terrell
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Kevin Foster wrote:
>>>>>>>> This researcher has a number of videos in which he appears to draw
>>>>>>>> current from the Earth to supplement an RF oscillator that lights
>>>>>>>> LED's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufTw6ECoz4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More light with the same current. Any idea what is happening here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kevin Foster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Extract Free Elections?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Extract-Free, perhaps?  Elections without any vanilla extract added?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> I buy only gluten-free electrons.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't those expensive?
>>>>
>>>> I'm still using dollar store electrons...
>>>> seem as good as the more expensive ones. :^)
>>>>
>>>> George H.
>>>
>>> Next you'll be telling me that all electrons are the same.
>>>
>>> How many electrons can you get for a dollar?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc
>>>
>>> lunatic fringe electronics
>>>
>>
>> Well seeing that they are made in China, would it not be dependant on the
>> exchange rate?
>
>Watch out for fakes though!

The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

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#434546

From"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date2016-11-09 18:15 -0500
Message-ID<fbmdnfsDmpqxM77FnZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#433639
John Larkin wrote:
>
> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.


    Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.


-- 
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

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#434661

FromRob <nomail@example.com>
Date2016-11-10 10:04 +0000
Message-ID<slrno28hh4.o8o.nomail@xs9.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#434546
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
>>
>> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.
>
>
>     Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.

No, whitworth thread.

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#435069

From"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date2016-11-12 08:24 -0500
Message-ID<qP6dnTu2u_xmirrFnZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#434661
Rob wrote:
> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.
>>
>>
>>      Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
>
> No, whitworth thread.


    So named, because they aren't worth a whit? ;-)


-- 
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

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#435314

Fromtabbypurr@gmail.com
Date2016-11-13 03:37 -0800
Message-ID<2571bce5-240f-4ec9-bf17-12d589342b21@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#435069
On Saturday, 12 November 2016 13:24:20 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
> Rob wrote:
> > Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> John Larkin wrote:

> >>      Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
> >
> > No, whitworth thread.
> 
>     So named, because they aren't worth a whit? ;-)

We have a lot to thank Mr. Whitworth for.


NT

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#436200

From"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date2016-11-18 18:11 -0500
Message-ID<demdnbD3zLw_F7LFnZ2dnUU7-R2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#435314
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 12 November 2016 13:24:20 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
>> Rob wrote:
>>> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> John Larkin wrote:
>
>>>>       Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
>>>
>>> No, whitworth thread.
>>
>>      So named, because they aren't worth a whit? ;-)
>
> We have a lot to thank Mr. Whitworth for.


    About as much as Lucas would be, in the United States.


-- 
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

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#436307

Fromtabbypurr@gmail.com
Date2016-11-19 12:10 -0800
Message-ID<4b73522e-e868-4c59-8798-021c9f44da53@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#436200
On Friday, 18 November 2016 23:11:38 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
> tabbypurr wrote:
> > On Saturday, 12 November 2016 13:24:20 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
> >> Rob wrote:
> >>> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>> John Larkin wrote:
> >
> >>>>       Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
> >>>
> >>> No, whitworth thread.
> >>
> >>      So named, because they aren't worth a whit? ;-)
> >
> > We have a lot to thank Mr. Whitworth for.
> 
> 
>     About as much as Lucas would be, in the United States.

Whitworth standardised screws nuts & bolts. Thank god.


NT

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#436347

From"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date2016-11-20 09:35 -0500
Message-ID<jrCdnfKbms46KazFnZ2dnUU7-UednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#436307
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 18 November 2016 23:11:38 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
>> tabbypurr wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 12 November 2016 13:24:20 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
>>>> Rob wrote:
>>>>> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>        Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, whitworth thread.
>>>>
>>>>       So named, because they aren't worth a whit? ;-)
>>>
>>> We have a lot to thank Mr. Whitworth for.
>>
>>
>>      About as much as Lucas would be, in the United States.
>
> Whitworth standardised screws nuts & bolts. Thank god.


    Not in the United States.


-- 
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

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#436396

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2016-11-20 23:06 -0800
Message-ID<9c2c240f-2511-4b16-851a-20bf473d1d0c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#436347
On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 1:35:34 AM UTC+11, Michael Terrell wrote:
> tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, 18 November 2016 23:11:38 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
> >> tabbypurr wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 12 November 2016 13:24:20 UTC, Michael Terrell  wrote:
> >>>> Rob wrote:
> >>>>> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> John Larkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>        Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, whitworth thread.
> >>>>
> >>>>       So named, because they aren't worth a whit? ;-)
> >>>
> >>> We have a lot to thank Mr. Whitworth for.
> >>
> >>
> >>      About as much as Lucas would be, in the United States.
> >
> > Whitworth standardised screws nuts & bolts. Thank god.
>  
>     Not in the United States.

The US doesn't like foreign standards. If you adopt your own, it acts as non-tariff barrier to trade. The local capitalists don't have to compete with more efficient producers inn other countries, and the local market can't buy the cheaper product they produce.

Noah Webster's dictionary of American English was perhaps the first example of that approach.

In the UK, of course, I mostly used metric nuts and bolts - not Whitworth.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#434779

Fromkrw <krw@somewhere.com>
Date2016-11-10 20:36 -0500
Message-ID<928a2chs4ni14jdqq460sgmpvdjs9cpqbp@4ax.com>
In reply to#434546
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 18:15:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>>
>> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.
>
>
>    Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.

Electrons in gas molecules have left-hand threads.  Electrons in water
molecules have right-hand threads.

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#435070

From"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Date2016-11-12 08:25 -0500
Message-ID<qP6dnTq2u_zRhbrFnZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#434779
krw wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 18:15:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.
>>
>>
>>     Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
>
> Electrons in gas molecules have left-hand threads.  Electrons in water
> molecules have right-hand threads.


    Electrons in liberals, are cross-threaded...


-- 
Never piss off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

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#435084

Fromkrw <krw@somewhere.com>
Date2016-11-12 09:37 -0500
Message-ID<j8ae2c529ab91k95uj835i2298j4mntrk5@4ax.com>
In reply to#435070
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:25:34 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>krw wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 18:15:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
>>
>> Electrons in gas molecules have left-hand threads.  Electrons in water
>> molecules have right-hand threads.
>
>
>    Electrons in liberals, are cross-threaded...

"Cross" is right!

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#435338

Frombill.sloman@ieee.org
Date2016-11-13 06:54 -0800
Message-ID<887f51b4-090a-46b9-af78-847b49383c11@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#435070
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 12:25:40 AM UTC+11, Michael Terrell wrote:
> krw wrote:
> > On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 18:15:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> > <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> John Larkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The Chinese electrons don't have as much charge as American ones.
> >
> >>     Beware! British electrons have left hand threads.
> >
> > Electrons in gas molecules have left-hand threads.  Electrons in water
> > molecules have right-hand threads. 
> 
>   Electrons in liberals, are cross-threaded...

Electrons do have spin, but quantum theory demonstrates that an electron can only have two possible values of spin, and only one at time. 

Most electron spins end up paired but free radicals (which are more radical than liberals) can have unpaired spins and can be subject to electron spin resonance spectroscopy.

Granting Mike Terrell's rather reactionary politics, there wouldn't be much point in trying to subject him to electron spin resonance spectroscopy, but since there's usually a travelling wave tube microwave amplifier in the spectrometer, some excessively liberated radical might be tempted to run the experiment anyway.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#433591

Fromjurb6006@gmail.com
Date2016-11-02 23:53 -0700
Message-ID<b34d0bfc-89f4-4de0-b644-f9fd6c63bb8b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#433573
>"How many electrons can you get for a dollar? "

Now that is a good question. From dry cells to fuel cells to whatever. 

The math oriented are surely doomed. 

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