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  OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 09:45 -0700
    Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 11:31 -0700
      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 11:35 -0700
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-05-30 13:34 -0700
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-30 17:02 -0400
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 17:07 -0700
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 17:52 -0700
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-06-01 22:28 -0800
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 18:24 -0400
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-05-30 17:56 -0700
            Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 18:15 -0700
              Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 21:21 -0400
                Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-30 19:30 -0700
              Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-30 19:28 -0700
            Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 21:20 -0400
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-30 18:23 -0700
          Re: OT: "Let?s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-06-01 12:08 -0400
            Re: OT: "Let?s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-01 20:58 -0700
      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-30 16:25 -0400
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-30 17:14 -0700
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-30 17:47 -0700
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 13:02 -0400
          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 13:41 -0400
            Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-31 11:17 -0700
              Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 11:29 -0700
                Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-31 11:56 -0700
                  Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 12:13 -0700
                  Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-02 20:05 +0100
                    Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-06-02 20:27 +0100
                      Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-06-02 15:48 -0700
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-06-02 18:59 -0400
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 00:06 +0100
                          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-06-02 16:40 -0700
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-06-10 12:49 +0000
                      Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 08:13 +0100
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 03:24 -0700
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 16:04 +0100
                          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 19:42 +0100
                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-06-03 11:56 -0700
                              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 21:08 +0100
                                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 09:34 +0100
                                  Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 10:29 +0100
                                    Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 18:58 +0100
                                  Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-04 07:16 -0700
                                    Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 18:38 +0100
                                      Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-04 18:45 -0700
                                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-05 20:54 +0100
                                          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-05 21:12 -0700
                                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-06 19:32 +0100
                                              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-06-06 11:44 -0700
                                                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-06 19:52 -0700
                                              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-06 19:51 -0700
                                                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 20:19 +0100
                                                  Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-07 19:48 -0700
                                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-06 20:20 +0100
                                              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-06 19:42 -0700
                                                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 19:15 +0100
                                                  Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-07 19:28 -0700
                                                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 21:22 +0100
                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 21:06 +0100
                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 18:24 -0700
                              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 09:05 +0100
                    Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-02 18:21 -0700
                      Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 08:10 +0100
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 03:30 -0700
                          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 19:38 +0100
                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 18:35 -0700
                        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 17:26 -0700
                          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-05 20:54 +0100
                    Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 08:13 +0100
                Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-31 18:18 -0400
              Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 15:41 -0400
                Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-31 12:53 -0700
                  Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 16:07 -0400
                    Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-31 13:19 -0700
                      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 16:30 -0400
                      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 16:53 -0700
                        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-31 17:12 -0700
                      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-31 20:01 -0400
                        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-31 17:52 -0700
                          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-02 20:05 +0100
                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-06-02 15:44 -0700
                            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-02 18:26 -0700
                              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-03 08:10 +0100
                                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 03:36 -0700
                        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-06-01 09:18 -0400
                          Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-06-01 09:21 -0400
                  Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-31 13:26 -0700
            Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-31 12:09 -0700
              Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 12:24 -0700
                Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 12:34 -0700
              Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 15:57 -0400
      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-05-30 18:19 -0700
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-31 13:10 -0400
    Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 18:22 -0400
    Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-06-01 22:22 -0800
      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-06-02 07:21 -0700
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 03:49 -0700
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-06-04 06:05 -0800
    Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-06-03 15:20 -0700
      Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-06-03 16:31 -0700
        Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-03 18:48 -0700
        Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 08:52 +0100
          Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-04 01:20 -0700
            Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 18:32 +0100
              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... samedi.al.samedi <samedi@gmail¸com> - 2017-06-04 12:31 -0700
                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-04 19:13 -0700
              Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-04 19:08 -0700
                Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-05 20:54 +0100
                  Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-05 21:22 -0700
                    Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-07 19:21 +0100
                      Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... krw@notreal.com - 2017-06-07 16:41 -0400
                      Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-06-07 19:36 -0700
    Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"... Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-06-10 12:22 +0000

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#462733 — Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

wrote in message 
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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 10:01:12 AM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> On Wed, 31 May 2017 13:19:22 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
>
> >Den onsdag den 31. maj 2017 kl. 22.07.33 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
> >> On 05/31/2017 03:53 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> Criticizing Islam is "hate speech" and should be banned, saying 
> >> >>> Trump voters
> >> >>> have murder on their mind and plan a genocide is ok
> >> >>>
> >> >>> and you wonder why he won?
> >> >>
> >> >> Plenty of reasons, which IMO have little to do with Islam or "free
> >> >> speech." YMMV.
> >> >
> >> > https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
> >> >
> >>
> >> One of the biggest reasons is an apocalyptic cult known as "The Islamic
> >> State of Iraq and the Levant" which has some very smart people among
> >> their ranks, understood American psychology and politics quite well,
> >> understood that Americans both took pride in and were ambivalent about
> >> America's ideology as a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society and the
> >> notions of "free speech", and struck at the weakest point, as any smart
> >> enemy would. IMHO.
> >
> >yes very smart, they have guilt tripped liberals into protesting against
> >free speech and making criticizing Islam "illegal"
> >
> >you would think liberal views and Islam was about as far apart possible, 
> >but apparently not
>
>> Lefties are too stupid to understand that the islamicists intend to
>> kill them.  Instead, they look at them as just another victim to
>> victimize.

>Krw is too stupid to notice that radical islamicists don't care who they 
>kill - any victim generates media attention. Liberals have noticed that not 
>all followers of Islam have been radicalised, and that >non-radicalised 
>Muslim have noticed that radical islamiscist are just as happy to kill them 
>as anybody else, and are happy to collaborate with the non-Muslim world in 
>putting radicalised islamisicsts

Unfortunately those liberals/far lefties and those like Bill don't 
understand that the threat is from the non radicals. Terrorism, is a non 
issue red herring.

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think

23% support the introduction of Sharia Law
32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who mock 
the Prophet
39% agree that “wives should always obey their husbands”.

Islam is a basic threat to western values. Its just the way it is. For 
example, Muslims have made staggering attempts to get the UN to make it a 
world criminal offense to criticise Islam or Muhammad.

Its just a fact that the more Muslims in a country, the more they try 
install their values against others. They vote for those that support their 
values. That is a threat to the values of others

Liberals/far lefties and those like Bill, live in denial of this.

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html 

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#462758 — Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

Den fredag den 2. juni 2017 kl. 21.05.22 UTC+2 skrev Kevin Aylward:
> wrote in message 
> news:febb0dbd-dfc1-47d2-8d4e-c6e7a15d2e52@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 10:01:12 AM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 May 2017 13:19:22 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> > <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >
> > >Den onsdag den 31. maj 2017 kl. 22.07.33 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
> > >> On 05/31/2017 03:53 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >>> Criticizing Islam is "hate speech" and should be banned, saying 
> > >> >>> Trump voters
> > >> >>> have murder on their mind and plan a genocide is ok
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> and you wonder why he won?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Plenty of reasons, which IMO have little to do with Islam or "free
> > >> >> speech." YMMV.
> > >> >
> > >> > https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> One of the biggest reasons is an apocalyptic cult known as "The Islamic
> > >> State of Iraq and the Levant" which has some very smart people among
> > >> their ranks, understood American psychology and politics quite well,
> > >> understood that Americans both took pride in and were ambivalent about
> > >> America's ideology as a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society and the
> > >> notions of "free speech", and struck at the weakest point, as any smart
> > >> enemy would. IMHO.
> > >
> > >yes very smart, they have guilt tripped liberals into protesting against
> > >free speech and making criticizing Islam "illegal"
> > >
> > >you would think liberal views and Islam was about as far apart possible, 
> > >but apparently not
> >
> >> Lefties are too stupid to understand that the islamicists intend to
> >> kill them.  Instead, they look at them as just another victim to
> >> victimize.
> 
> >Krw is too stupid to notice that radical islamicists don't care who they 
> >kill - any victim generates media attention. Liberals have noticed that not 
> >all followers of Islam have been radicalised, and that >non-radicalised 
> >Muslim have noticed that radical islamiscist are just as happy to kill them 
> >as anybody else, and are happy to collaborate with the non-Muslim world in 
> >putting radicalised islamisicsts
> 
> Unfortunately those liberals/far lefties and those like Bill don't 
> understand that the threat is from the non radicals. Terrorism, is a non 
> issue red herring.
> 
> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think
> 
> 23% support the introduction of Sharia Law
> 32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who mock 
> the Prophet
> 39% agree that “wives should always obey their husbands”.
> 
> Islam is a basic threat to western values. Its just the way it is. For 
> example, Muslims have made staggering attempts to get the UN to make it a 
> world criminal offense to criticise Islam or Muhammad.
> 

Today the danish parliament abolished the "blasphemy law", every one from the far left to the far right or as far as if gets round here voted for the abolishing the law    

except for the social democrats, for some weird reason they wanted to keep it even though they tried many time in the 70's to have it removed 

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#462812 — Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:05:22 AM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
> wrote in message 
> news:febb0dbd-dfc1-47d2-8d4e-c6e7a15d2e52@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 10:01:12 AM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 May 2017 13:19:22 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> > <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >
> > >Den onsdag den 31. maj 2017 kl. 22.07.33 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
> > >> On 05/31/2017 03:53 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >>> Criticizing Islam is "hate speech" and should be banned, saying 
> > >> >>> Trump voters
> > >> >>> have murder on their mind and plan a genocide is ok
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> and you wonder why he won?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Plenty of reasons, which IMO have little to do with Islam or "free
> > >> >> speech." YMMV.
> > >> >
> > >> > https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> One of the biggest reasons is an apocalyptic cult known as "The Islamic
> > >> State of Iraq and the Levant" which has some very smart people among
> > >> their ranks, understood American psychology and politics quite well,
> > >> understood that Americans both took pride in and were ambivalent about
> > >> America's ideology as a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society and the
> > >> notions of "free speech", and struck at the weakest point, as any smart
> > >> enemy would. IMHO.
> > >
> > >yes very smart, they have guilt tripped liberals into protesting against
> > >free speech and making criticizing Islam "illegal"
> > >
> > >you would think liberal views and Islam was about as far apart possible, 
> > >but apparently not
> >
> >> Lefties are too stupid to understand that the islamicists intend to
> >> kill them.  Instead, they look at them as just another victim to
> >> victimize.
> 
> >Krw is too stupid to notice that radical islamicists don't care who they 
> >kill - any victim generates media attention. Liberals have noticed that not 
> >all followers of Islam have been radicalised, and that >non-radicalised 
> >Muslim have noticed that radical islamiscist are just as happy to kill them 
> >as anybody else, and are happy to collaborate with the non-Muslim world in 
> >putting radicalised islamisicsts
> 
> Unfortunately those liberals/far lefties and those like Bill don't 
> understand that the threat is from the non radicals. Terrorism, is a non 
> issue red herring.
> 
> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think
> 
> 23% support the introduction of Sharia Law
> 32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who mock 
> the Prophet
> 39% agree that “wives should always obey their husbands”.
> 
> Islam is a basic threat to western values. Its just the way it is. For 
> example, Muslims have made staggering attempts to get the UN to make it a 
> world criminal offense to criticise Islam or Muhammad.
> 
> Its just a fact that the more Muslims in a country, the more they try 
> install their values against others. They vote for those that support their 
> values. That is a threat to the values of others
> 
> Liberals/far lefties and those like Bill, live in denial of this.

Of course they do. Muslims that self-identify as Muslims tend to vote to support Muslim choices. They know perfectly well that they haven't got a majority and won't have to put up with consequences.

If they do breed themselves into a becoming a majority, which will take a few centuries, their off-spring will find the whole idea quaint.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#462827 — Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

>wrote in message 
>news:9ed2f4da-58ba-4644-8d70-531cbc8e4564@googlegroups.com...


>
> Unfortunately those liberals/far lefties and those like Bill don't
> understand that the threat is from the non radicals. Terrorism, is a non
> issue red herring.
>
>> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think
>
>> 23% support the introduction of Sharia Law
>> 32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who 
>> mock
>> the Prophet
>> 39% agree that “wives should always obey their husbands”.
>
>> Islam is a basic threat to western values. Its just the way it is. For
>> example, Muslims have made staggering attempts to get the UN to make it a
> >world criminal offense to criticise Islam or Muhammad.
>
>> Its just a fact that the more Muslims in a country, the more they try
>> install their values against others. They vote for those that support 
>> their
>> values. That is a threat to the values of others
>
>> Liberals/far lefties and those like Bill, live in denial of this.

>Of course they do. Muslims that self-identify as Muslims tend to vote to 
>support Muslim choices. They know perfectly well that they haven't got a 
>majority and won't have to put up with >consequences.

You don't need to be a majority to make radical changes to to the laws. 
Hint: Gays are only 1% of the population.

Your argument that minority's only vote because they "know" that their votes 
wont count, is stunningly sweeping and ignorant of people's behaviour, and 
wrong.

Its your usual denial, head stuck in the sand bit.

>If they do breed themselves into a becoming a majority, which will take a 
>few centuries, their off-spring will find the whole idea quaint.

Oh dear...

-- Kevin Aylward
http://www.anasoft.co.uk - SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html 

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#462834 — Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:10:33 PM UTC+10, Kevin Aylward wrote:
> >wrote in message 
> >news:9ed2f4da-58ba-4644-8d70-531cbc8e4564@googlegroups.com...
> 
> 
> >
> > Unfortunately those liberals/far lefties and those like Bill don't
> > understand that the threat is from the non radicals. Terrorism, is a non
> > issue red herring.
> >
> >> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think
> >
> >> 23% support the introduction of Sharia Law
> >> 32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who 
> >> mock
> >> the Prophet
> >> 39% agree that “wives should always obey their husbands”.
> >
> >> Islam is a basic threat to western values. Its just the way it is. For
> >> example, Muslims have made staggering attempts to get the UN to make it a
> > >world criminal offense to criticise Islam or Muhammad.
> >
> >> Its just a fact that the more Muslims in a country, the more they try
> >> install their values against others. They vote for those that support 
> >> their
> >> values. That is a threat to the values of others
> >
> >> Liberals/far lefties and those like Bill, live in denial of this.
> 
> >Of course they do. Muslims that self-identify as Muslims tend to vote to 
> >support Muslim choices. They know perfectly well that they haven't got a 
> >majority and won't have to put up with >consequences.
> 
> You don't need to be a majority to make radical changes to to the laws. 
> Hint: Gays are only 1% of the population.

But they have lots of friends, most of whom aren't gay, but do understand what's going on.

> Your argument that minority's only vote because they "know" that their votes 
> wont count, is stunningly sweeping and ignorant of people's behaviour, and 
> wrong.

Not in this case. Muslims are - in general - just as intolerant of religious nutters as the rest of the population.

> Its your usual denial, head stuck in the sand bit.

You do like to think that. Where your head is, there's not a lot of sand around.
 
> >If they do breed themselves into a becoming a majority, which will take a 
> >few centuries, their off-spring will find the whole idea quaint.
> 
> Oh dear...

Our various other right-wing lunatics have been quite taken with that idea - even John Larkin was silly enough to float it a few years ago. I had thought that you had more sense, but since you got frightened by some Muslim bogeyman, it seems that your brain has stopped working.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#462547 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On 05/31/2017 08:01 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:

>> yes very smart, they have guilt tripped liberals into protesting against
>> free speech and making criticizing Islam "illegal"
>>
>> you would think liberal views and Islam was about as far apart possible, but apparently not
> 
> Lefties are too stupid to understand that the islamicists intend to
> kill them.  Instead, they look at them as just another victim to
> victimize.

Oh, no doubt a bunch of them intend to kill all sorts of people. The US 
has kicked the Muslim world around for the better part of forever, 
played them off against each other, even (like complete fools) armed 
them in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the hope that they'd do our dirty 
work against the Soviet Union (when they had top slot as the big 
boogeyman) and then could be disposed of like garbage when we didn't 
need them anymore. I imagine I'd be hopping mad, too.

Osama bin Laden laid it out pretty clearly: get out of our lands. Is 
this an unreasonable request?

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#462548 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On 06/01/2017 09:18 AM, bitrex wrote:
> On 05/31/2017 08:01 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
> 
>>> yes very smart, they have guilt tripped liberals into protesting against
>>> free speech and making criticizing Islam "illegal"
>>>
>>> you would think liberal views and Islam was about as far apart 
>>> possible, but apparently not
>>
>> Lefties are too stupid to understand that the islamicists intend to
>> kill them.  Instead, they look at them as just another victim to
>> victimize.
> 
> Oh, no doubt a bunch of them intend to kill all sorts of people. The US 
> has kicked the Muslim world around for the better part of forever, 
> played them off against each other, even (like complete fools) armed 
> them in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the hope that they'd do our dirty 
> work against the Soviet Union (when they had top slot as the big 
> boogeyman) and then could be disposed of like garbage when we didn't 
> need them anymore. I imagine I'd be hopping mad, too.
> 
> Osama bin Laden laid it out pretty clearly: get out of our lands. Is 
> this an unreasonable request?

The "alt-right" just assumes everyone else is filthy liars as they are, 
and couldn't possibly be telling them the honest truth. The "alt-right" 
has a _listening_ problem.

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#462486 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:53:19 PM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> Den onsdag den 31. maj 2017 kl. 21.42.10 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
> > On 05/31/2017 02:17 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > 
> > > you sound an awful like the far-right wingers that assume all Muslims have
> > > murder on their mind, at least they have a bit more statistics to back it up
> > 
> > Hey, maybe they do! I certainly acknowledge the possibility. In Osama 
> > bin Laden's "Letter to America" it was laid out pretty clearly:
> > 
> > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver>
> > 
> > "Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?
> > Q2)What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?
> > 
> > As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The 
> > answer is very simple:
> > 
> > (1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us."
> > 
> > And you'll also find this important one:
> > 
> > "(5) We also advise you to pack your luggage and get out of our lands. 
> > We desire for your goodness, guidance, and righteousness, so do not 
> > force us to send you back as cargo in coffins."
> > 
> > Hmm. Seems like they weren't kidding.
> > 
> > > Criticizing Islam is "hate speech" and should be banned, saying Trump voters
> > > have murder on their mind and plan a genocide is ok
> > > 
> > > and you wonder why he won?
> > 
> > Plenty of reasons, which IMO have little to do with Islam or "free 
> > speech." YMMV.
> 
> https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs

Hah, that's pretty good.  We need more of that over here.  
(I watched a few others... ) 

George H. 

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#462468 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 1:41:41 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 05/30/2017 08:14 PM, George Herold wrote:
> 
> > bitrex, dude, as a somewhat fellow liberal, can I say something?
> > I live in upstate NY, Trump-land.  All my neighbors are 'good people'.
> > (with a few exceptions, but those tales cost at least a beer.)
> > calling people names is childish.
> > (I always expect the best from people...)
> > 
> > George H.
> > 
> 
> George, dude, my point is that you'd better be very sure before you 
> assume which of your neighbors in Trump-land are your friends, and which 
> aren't.
Huh?  I'm not at all worried about my neighbors.  (Well no more than in the 
distant past.)   
> 
> Some of these cats are most certainly plotting Rwanda 2.0 and there are 
> some guys on the left still thinking about "let's talk it out." This 
> stabbing in Portland was one thing, and maybe it's a small chance, but 
> it could just be the first of many. Even a 5% chance of something is 
> enough for me to take seriously, however, and so I have to take it 
> seriously. The evidence is all around - these guys got murder on the mind.
> 
> If I had a family and was in that position I'd be thinking very hard 
> about where I chose to make my home at this point.
You know I think the intolerance, (not listening) is out of control on 
both sides.  I was reading an article about Charles Murray's visit to 
Middlebury college.  
Here it is,
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/28/how-donald-trump-caused-the-middlebury-melee-215195

We yell at each other and call names.  How does that help?  

George H. 

(BTW)
The mayor (or whomever) in Seattle is wrong.  Hate speech is protected
by the first amendment.  (You don't have to listen to it.)      

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#462471

On Wed, 31 May 2017 12:09:23 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

[snip]

>You know I think the intolerance, (not listening) is out of control on 
>both sides.  I was reading an article about Charles Murray's visit to 
>Middlebury college.  
>Here it is,
>http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/28/how-donald-trump-caused-the-middlebury-melee-215195
>
>We yell at each other and call names.  How does that help? 

It doesn't.
 
>
>George H. 
>
>(BTW)
>The mayor (or whomever) in Seattle is wrong.  Hate speech is protected
>by the first amendment.  (You don't have to listen to it.)      

Indeed!  Just like TV, change the channel if you don't like what
you're seeing.
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#462473

On Wed, 31 May 2017 12:24:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 May 2017 12:09:23 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
><gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>You know I think the intolerance, (not listening) is out of control on 
>>both sides.  I was reading an article about Charles Murray's visit to 
>>Middlebury college.  
>>Here it is,
>>http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/28/how-donald-trump-caused-the-middlebury-melee-215195
>>
>>We yell at each other and call names.  How does that help? 
>
>It doesn't.
> 
>>
>>George H. 
>>
>>(BTW)
>>The mayor (or whomever) in Seattle is wrong.  Hate speech is protected
>>by the first amendment.  (You don't have to listen to it.)      
>
>Indeed!  Just like TV, change the channel if you don't like what
>you're seeing.
>		
>                                        ...Jim Thompson

Shameful...

<http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/31/college-professor-campus-mob-came/>
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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is the secret of happiness."  -James Barrie

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#462479 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On 05/31/2017 03:09 PM, George Herold wrote:

> You know I think the intolerance, (not listening) is out of control on
> both sides.  I was reading an article about Charles Murray's visit to
> Middlebury college.
> Here it is,
> http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/28/how-donald-trump-caused-the-middlebury-melee-215195
> 
> We yell at each other and call names.  How does that help?
> 
> George H.
> 
> (BTW)
> The mayor (or whomever) in Seattle is wrong.  Hate speech is protected
> by the first amendment.  (You don't have to listen to it.)
> 

Trump says that ISIS is laughing at America, and he's right. But it 
ain't for the reasons he thinks.

There are some smart people in ISIS, certainly as smart as you'll find 
in any government. America is getting seriously played.

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#462368 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 4:31:30 AM UTC+10, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:45:51 AM UTC-7, Jim Thompson wrote:
> > "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
> > 
> > <http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
> > 
> > Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.
> 
>   Well, it's clear the mayor of Portland is a liar and hypocrite.  Whether "hate speech" is Constitutionally protected is irrelevant (it is protected), the mealy-mouthed bastard doesn't want riots by his town full of special snowflakes.
> 
>   He can't bring himself to admit the hatred at the core of today's Liberalism.

Why should he. It isn't
> 
>   (Cue Sloman and the other usual suspects justifying their hatred.)

As Judge Learned Hand pointed out, "free speech" doesn't cover shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre. The mayor of Portland cited an incident when two men got stabbed to death for the offences of trying to protect a couple of women from an anti-Muslim tirade.

Trump's idea of free speech does seem to include a fair bit of anti-Muslim rhetoric, so it doesn't take much imagination to see where the mayor of Portland is coming from. Jim Thompson and Mark L. Ferguson aren't in the habit of exercising their imaginations in that particular direction, so it's no surprise that they can't see why he might be anxious - from their point of view, right-wing nit-wits can't do anything that could worry the sane majority, because anything a right-wing nit-wit does strikes them as perfectly normal behavior.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#462452 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On 05/30/2017 09:19 PM, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
> Trump's idea of free speech does seem to include a fair bit of anti-Muslim rhetoric, so it doesn't take much imagination to see where the mayor of Portland is coming from. Jim Thompson and > Mark L. Ferguson aren't in the habit of exercising their imaginations in that particular direction, so it's no surprise that they can't see why he might be anxious - from their point of >view, right-wing nit-wits can't do anything that could worry the sane majority, because anything a right-wing nit-wit does strikes them as perfectly normal behavior.

If anyone finds it unsettling then they're a "snowflake" who deserved 
the abuse. Abuse and victim-blaming is a bullet point of codified 
right-wing "policy" at this point.

They've said in no uncertain terms what they are. Why anyone who wasn't 
one would ever want to white-knight for their "free speech" after they 
laid cards like that on the table is definitely beyond me.

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#462350

On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:45:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>"Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
>
><http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
>
>Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.

<http://mediaequalizers.com>

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#462652 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

Jim Thompson wrote:
> "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
>
> <http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
>
> Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.
> 		
>                                          ...Jim Thompson
   There is no such thing as "free speech" (about anything).
   All it takes is someone with (political) power to dislike the speaker 
and/or the subject to take exception and send the troops.
   Been happening, and more often (than last week/last month/last year).

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#462676

On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:22:57 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
>>
>> <http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
>>
>> Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.
>> 		
>>                                          ...Jim Thompson
>   There is no such thing as "free speech" (about anything).

Excuse me?

>   All it takes is someone with (political) power to dislike the speaker 
>and/or the subject to take exception and send the troops.

Not supposed to happen according to our Constitution... but now
rampant on our college campuses

>   Been happening, and more often (than last week/last month/last year).

Trump should cut off ALL Federal funding to colleges and universities;
AND guaranteed student loans.
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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#462836 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 12:21:22 AM UTC+10, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:22:57 -0800, Robert Baer
> <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
> 
> >Jim Thompson wrote:
> >> "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
> >>
> >> <http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
> >>
> >> Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.
> >> 		
> >>                                          ...Jim Thompson
> >   There is no such thing as "free speech" (about anything).
> 
> Excuse me?
> 
> >   All it takes is someone with (political) power to dislike the speaker 
> >and/or the subject to take exception and send the troops.
> 
> Not supposed to happen according to our Constitution... but now
> rampant on our college campuses
> 
> >   Been happening, and more often (than last week/last month/last year).
> 
> Trump should cut off ALL Federal funding to colleges and universities;
> AND guaranteed student loans.

Jim-out-of-touch-with-reality-Thompson is the best possible argument for this idea. He spent years at MIT and graduated with a degree and a whole lot of marketable skills, and completely managed to miss the kind of education that universities are supposed to instill. 

Lots of people do better - most people come out of university with a slightly wider perspective - so the argument is really that that the mind-expanding environment shouldn't be wasted on monomaniac throttle-bottoms like Jim Thompson.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#462932 — Re: OT: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 22:22:57 -0800, Robert Baer
> <robertbaer@localnet.com>  wrote:
>
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
>>>
>>> <http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
>>>
>>> Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.
>>> 		
>>>                                           ...Jim Thompson
>>    There is no such thing as "free speech" (about anything).
>
> Excuse me?
>
>>    All it takes is someone with (political) power to dislike the speaker
>> and/or the subject to take exception and send the troops.
>
> Not supposed to happen according to our Constitution... but now
> rampant on our college campuses
*  Where have you been; the "Constitution" has been carved away to 
nothing by fascists and socialists since FDR stole our gold.

>
>>    Been happening, and more often (than last week/last month/last year).
>
> Trump should cut off ALL Federal funding to colleges and universities;
> AND guaranteed student loans.
> 		
>                                          ...Jim Thompson

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#462893

On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:45:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>"Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
>
><http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/30/portland-mayor-lets-not-get-carried-away-whole-free-speech-thing/>
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>Fascism is on its way and we're not doing anything to stop it.
>		
>                                        ...Jim Thompson

Today's chapter...

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4569638/Car-ploughs-20-people-London-Bridge.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK>

We just need to be more kind and understanding... yep, with an AR-15.

I can't wait until more of it comes to New York and Californica >:-}
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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