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Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...

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Date 2017-06-02 15:44 -0700
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Subject Re: "Let’s not get carried away with this whole 'free speech' thing"...
From Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk>

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Den fredag den 2. juni 2017 kl. 21.05.22 UTC+2 skrev Kevin Aylward:
> wrote in message 
> news:febb0dbd-dfc1-47d2-8d4e-c6e7a15d2e52@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 10:01:12 AM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 May 2017 13:19:22 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
> > <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >
> > >Den onsdag den 31. maj 2017 kl. 22.07.33 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
> > >> On 05/31/2017 03:53 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >>> Criticizing Islam is "hate speech" and should be banned, saying 
> > >> >>> Trump voters
> > >> >>> have murder on their mind and plan a genocide is ok
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> and you wonder why he won?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Plenty of reasons, which IMO have little to do with Islam or "free
> > >> >> speech." YMMV.
> > >> >
> > >> > https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> One of the biggest reasons is an apocalyptic cult known as "The Islamic
> > >> State of Iraq and the Levant" which has some very smart people among
> > >> their ranks, understood American psychology and politics quite well,
> > >> understood that Americans both took pride in and were ambivalent about
> > >> America's ideology as a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society and the
> > >> notions of "free speech", and struck at the weakest point, as any smart
> > >> enemy would. IMHO.
> > >
> > >yes very smart, they have guilt tripped liberals into protesting against
> > >free speech and making criticizing Islam "illegal"
> > >
> > >you would think liberal views and Islam was about as far apart possible, 
> > >but apparently not
> >
> >> Lefties are too stupid to understand that the islamicists intend to
> >> kill them.  Instead, they look at them as just another victim to
> >> victimize.
> 
> >Krw is too stupid to notice that radical islamicists don't care who they 
> >kill - any victim generates media attention. Liberals have noticed that not 
> >all followers of Islam have been radicalised, and that >non-radicalised 
> >Muslim have noticed that radical islamiscist are just as happy to kill them 
> >as anybody else, and are happy to collaborate with the non-Muslim world in 
> >putting radicalised islamisicsts
> 
> Unfortunately those liberals/far lefties and those like Bill don't 
> understand that the threat is from the non radicals. Terrorism, is a non 
> issue red herring.
> 
> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think
> 
> 23% support the introduction of Sharia Law
> 32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who mock 
> the Prophet
> 39% agree that “wives should always obey their husbands”.
> 
> Islam is a basic threat to western values. Its just the way it is. For 
> example, Muslims have made staggering attempts to get the UN to make it a 
> world criminal offense to criticise Islam or Muhammad.
> 

Today the danish parliament abolished the "blasphemy law", every one from the far left to the far right or as far as if gets round here voted for the abolishing the law    

except for the social democrats, for some weird reason they wanted to keep it even though they tried many time in the 70's to have it removed

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