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Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers?

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On 6/2/2017 1:59 PM, hondgm@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:06:58 PM UTC-5, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 2 Jun 2017 10:10:40 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
>> hondg@com wrote in
>> <2279bbfd-a251-41aa-bccd-dfe824cd1409@googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 11:58:21 AM UTC-5, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:49:14 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
>>>> hondgm@.com wrote in
>>>> <7b11ca83-5bbd-4915-8955-08e571c42b61@googlegroups.com>:
>>>>
>>>
>>> but to answer why buy anything?  Because some people don't have time to screw with it.
>>
>> See, that is already where you go wrong,
>> Programming does not 'stop' there, now you have your programmer it only STARTS there,
>> And for you to proceed you MUST know how the programming works,
>> read the related documents, else your program will be just like many out there,
>> needless tinkering bloated crap.
>> It is like saying: 'I do not have to know how pliers work, I can just build the cabinet'.
>>
> Sounds like you assume I don't know how to program in C or assembly.
> 
> 
>> There is a 'top down' approach, and in the end it results is an app called 'mama' that sits on the CEO's desk
>> and all he has to know and do is say 'mama I want <whatever>' and it will be done.
>> President's desk too...
>>
> 
> Ummmm, what?  I don't know how we even got off on this tangent.
> 
>>
>>> I could for example buy a PICkit for $50 and be done with it.
>>
>> No, now you need to program, and guess what, learn what you wanted to skip to save time.
>>
> 
> I know how to program.  The problem is getting the machine code into the PIC.
>   My original post was about a PIC programmer, not a "programmer" as in someone who writes code.
> 
>>
>>> Or, try to get several hours of free time without the kids bugging me and trying to ignore all the more important stuff I should be doing.
>>
>> Huh I am multitasking 99% if not more of the time.
>>

You're lucky to be part of the 2.5% of people that can do that effectively.

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Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-02 08:49 -0700
  Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 16:58 +0000
    Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-02 10:10 -0700
      Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 18:06 +0000
        Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-02 11:59 -0700
          Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 19:21 +0000
            Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-02 12:43 -0700
              Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 20:43 +0000
                Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-02 18:29 -0700
              Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-06-03 11:44 -0400
                Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-04 04:44 -0700
          Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-06-02 14:59 -0500
      Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> - 2017-06-04 12:12 +1000
  Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2017-06-02 10:46 -0700
  Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-02 13:03 -0700
    Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-02 18:17 -0700
      Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-02 19:47 -0700
        Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? hondgm@yahoo.com - 2017-06-03 03:56 -0700
          Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-03 11:50 -0700
          Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Kamen Lilov <kamenl@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 12:33 -0700
    Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-06-09 21:04 +0000
      Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-09 14:37 -0700
  Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2017-06-04 00:02 -0700
    Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-06-04 03:41 -0700
    Re: Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers? Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-06-04 13:15 +0000

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