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Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats

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On 2016-10-11 07:51, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 10/11/2016 10:42 AM, Joerg wrote:
>> On 2016-10-11 07:31, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>> So my trusty Brother MFC6490CW B-size all-in-one printer died the death.
>>>    Looks like an encoder failure on the paper feed.
>>>
>>> It was one of their last ones that didn't have chips in the ink
>>> cartridges, and it worked great for years.  One of the better three
>>> bills I ever spent.
>>>
>>> The replacement, an MFCJ series model, pretends to print with
>>> aftermarket ink but doesn't really.  When you run the head cleaning
>>> routine, only about 10% of the black ink pattern prints, and repeated
>>> cleaning doesn't make that any better.
>>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with the ink or the print head--it's deliberately
>>> crippled.
>>>
>>> I know this from two lines of evidence:
>>>
>>> 1. When you hold two test prints up to the sunlight superimposed, you
>>> see that it's a different set of spots that prints each time, and
>>> especially
>>>
>>> 2. It prints the machine serial number on the test print, in black, and
>>> it comes out _perfectly_.
>>>
>>> Asshats.
>>>
>>> I'm never buying another Brother product.
>>>
>>> However, I do need a light-duty B-size (11x17) colour printer.  Budget
>>> is probably $1k or thereabouts.  Anybody got one that they like?
>>>
>>
>> No, but regarding brands this is my experience: I had a Brother MFC
>> (monochrome Laser all-in-one) and it was ok for several years, even with
>> aftermarket toner. Eventually numerous paper jams ensued and eventually
>> the electronics hung it up.
>>
>> I replaced it with a Canon ImageClass unit and the difference was day
>> and night. Nice and sound mechanical clicking and clacking noises
>> instead of creaking noises, never a paper jam. Might be worth checking
>> out a Canon product that suits your 11*17 requirement and other.
>>
>> One thing that IMO goes in favor of Brother: Their software was much
>> better than Canon's. Software architecture seems not to be Canon's
>> strength.
>>
>> HP: Their stuff always held up remarkably well. Even the old low-cost
>> HP-5L still works and it's almost 20 years now.
>
> Pre-Fiorina HPs worked great.  I have a 6P that is still going strong
> since the 90s, and my desk printer is a 2300DTN duplex model that is
> amazing.  I've heard less good things about their newer models, and it's
> perfectly possible for a set of toner to cost twice as much as the
> printer (see the 5500N model--$400 _per colour_).
>

The first thing I do before even considering a printer is to scope out 
whether it will accept after-market toner. If it doesn't then me no buy.

Ink is particularly expensive and I do not use inkjet printer anymore 
because it dried up in the hot summers here. The exception was an old HP 
DeskJet because one could re-ink cartridges via ink bottle and syringe. 
I got 3-4 uses out of each HP cartridge until the front was chafed too much.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Brother International is a bunch of asshats Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-10-11 10:31 -0400
  Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-10-11 07:42 -0700
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-10-11 10:51 -0400
      Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Baron <baron@linuxmaniac.net> - 2016-10-11 17:05 +0100
      Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2016-10-11 09:19 -0700
        Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2016-10-11 20:56 -0800
        Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2016-10-12 04:30 -0400
          Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2016-10-12 08:13 -0500
      Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-11 10:43 -0700
        Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2016-10-11 19:20 +0100
          Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-11 13:50 -0700
            Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-10-11 17:01 -0500
            Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2016-10-12 08:12 +0100
        Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats jurb6006@gmail.com - 2016-10-11 11:22 -0700
          Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-11 14:11 -0700
  Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2016-10-11 09:02 -0700
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2016-10-11 09:50 -0700
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats "Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> - 2016-10-11 14:14 -0500
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2016-10-11 14:26 -0700
  Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Marte Schwarz <marte.schwarz@gmx.de> - 2016-10-11 18:14 +0200
  Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-10-11 10:10 -0700
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2016-10-11 13:50 -0400
      Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-10-11 14:28 -0400
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2016-10-11 14:22 -0400
  Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Ecnerwal <MyNameForward@ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> - 2016-10-11 16:52 -0400
  Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-11 17:55 -0700
    Re: Brother International is a bunch of asshats Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2016-10-12 12:42 -0700

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