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| Started by | DaveC <not@home.cow> |
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| First post | 2016-07-04 08:26 -0700 |
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Schematics nomenclature DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2016-07-04 08:26 -0700
Re: Schematics nomenclature "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2016-07-04 12:49 -0400
Re: Schematics nomenclature N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 18:49 +0100
Re: Schematics nomenclature Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-07-04 21:11 +0300
Re: Schematics nomenclature Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2016-07-04 11:22 -0700
Re: Schematics nomenclature DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2016-07-04 12:45 -0700
| From | DaveC <not@home.cow> |
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| Date | 2016-07-04 08:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Schematics nomenclature |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.1D2AB7C20024562F1098D53CF@news.eternal-september.org> |
http://imgur.com/KWFIN1H Pins 12 and 13 have a little triangle next to the pin; pins 1, 2, 15, 16 have what looks like an “n”; 3 and 14 have an “x”. What’s the meaning of these marks? Thanks.
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| From | "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-04 12:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nle42f$8nn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5991 |
DaveC wrote: > http://imgur.com/KWFIN1H > > Pins 12 and 13 have a little triangle next to the pin; pins 1, 2, 15, > 16 have what looks like an "n"; 3 and 14 have an "x". > > What's the meaning of these marks? That's the IEEE standard schematic notation touted by TI in the 80's. The downward sloping triangle means logical inversion, or active-low. I don't remember the others.
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| From | N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-07-04 18:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nle7ik$m7s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5992 |
On 04/07/2016 17:49, Tom Del Rosso wrote: > DaveC wrote: >> http://imgur.com/KWFIN1H >> >> Pins 12 and 13 have a little triangle next to the pin; pins 1, 2, 15, >> 16 have what looks like an "n"; 3 and 14 have an "x". >> >> What's the meaning of these marks? > > That's the IEEE standard schematic notation touted by TI in the 80's. > The downward sloping triangle means logical inversion, or active-low. I > don't remember the others. > > In that case "x" means don't care
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| From | Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-04 21:11 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <nle8sa$sna$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5991 |
On 4.7.16 18:26, DaveC wrote: > http://imgur.com/KWFIN1H > > Pins 12 and 13 have a little triangle next to the pin; pins 1, 2, 15, 16 have > what looks like an “n”; 3 and 14 have an “x”. > > What’s the meaning of these marks? > > Thanks. The 'n' pins are non-logic signals. The 'x' pins are power supply pins, see the chip data sheet. -- -TV
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| From | Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-04 11:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nle9g5$vcd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #5991 |
On 7/4/2016 8:26 AM, DaveC wrote: > http://imgur.com/KWFIN1H > > Pins 12 and 13 have a little triangle next to the pin; pins 1, 2, 15, 16 have > what looks like an “n”; 3 and 14 have an “x”. > > What’s the meaning of these marks? The little triangle (sort of like half an arrowhead?) denotes active low (what used to be indicated by a "bubble"). The tip of the arrow indicates the direction of signal flow. Can appear on a gazinta or a cumzouta. A (real!) triangle inside the device outline denotes a dynamic/clock input (edge) The "n" (actually, more like an upside down U) denotes an analog signal (look at the device and you can see why this is so!) when encountered on a digital signal; a '#' indicates a digital signal when encountered on an analog signal. The 'x' indicates a "non-logic" signal (in yor case, the reference gnd) There are other markings that indicate postponed outputs, tristate outputs, open-collector, open-emitter, hysteresis, etc.
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| From | DaveC <not@home.cow> |
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| Date | 2016-07-04 12:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.1D2AF456003289401098D53CF@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #5995 |
On 4 Jul 2016, Don Y wrote: > The "n" (actually, more like an upside down U) denotes an analog signal > (look at the device and you can see why this is so!) when encountered on > a digital signal; a '#' indicates a digital signal when encountered on > an analog signal. ?? "when encountered on”? So both of these pins are mixed-signal? “n” is mostly-digital and # is mostly-analog? (c;
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