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  ASLEC  cipher and Vector Cryptography. austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-09-25 10:42 -0700
    Re: ASLEC  cipher and Vector Cryptography. Leo <usenet@gkbrk.com> - 2021-09-25 22:54 +0000
      Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. austin obyrne <ao402468@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 02:27 -0700
        Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-09-26 11:32 +0100
        Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 06:22 -0700
        Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 06:27 -0700
          Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-09-26 14:39 +0100
            Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> - 2021-09-26 07:09 -0700
              Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-09-26 15:44 +0100

#50125 — ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

There’s nothing in it for me to bang the drum for this 
cryptography.  It is profoundly strong and I have no
hesitation in claiming that is unbreakably so by definition.

The nice thing about is that it was there all the time 
waiting to be discovered – just plain ordinary homely maths.

It is no shame on anybody to say they don’t understand it 
– I have always said most people will need a foundation 
course in applied vector methods in plane geaometry.

I am very pleased with it and nobody can deny that I have 
been promoting it for many years without deviation.

The full exposure can be seen on my new website i.e. 
ASLEC.UK – give yourself a treat and go there.

(Google : type in  'ASLEC.UK 'and up it comes.)
Ditto for Firefox and Chrome.

Enjoy.

Austin O'Byrne

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#50138

On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 10:42:00 -0700, austin obyrne wrote:

> There’s nothing in it for me to bang the drum for this cryptography.  It
> is profoundly strong and I have no hesitation in claiming that is
> unbreakably so by definition.

You can only claim that because no one else has a tool to encrypt
arbitrary content with different keys, or even enough plaintext /
ciphertext samples.

Any cipher is unbreakable if there is nothing to break.

> The full exposure can be seen on my new website i.e.
> ASLEC.UK – give yourself a treat and go there.

That page only has some badly formatted papers that look like they're
written in Microsoft Word.

Seriously, you don't even need to be good at programming for this.
Anyone can read the Wikipedia page for ChaCha20 or AES and implement
the steps one by one. They all have a very detailed explanation of the
algorithm steps and test vectors to see if your implementation is
correct. You need something like this.

Some good examples are DJB's papers or the SHA3/Keccak paper.

-- 
Leo

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#50140 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

On Saturday, 25 September 2021 at 23:54:43 UTC+1, Leo wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 10:42:00 -0700, austin obyrne wrote: 
> 
> > There’s nothing in it for me to bang the drum for this cryptography. It 
> > is profoundly strong and I have no hesitation in claiming that is 
> > unbreakably so by definition.
> You can only claim that because no one else has a tool to encrypt 
> arbitrary content with different keys, or even enough plaintext / 
> ciphertext samples. 
> 
> Any cipher is unbreakable if there is nothing to break.
> > The full exposure can be seen on my new website i.e. 
> > ASLEC.UK – give yourself a treat and go there.
> That page only has some badly formatted papers that look like they're 
> written in Microsoft Word. 
> 
> Seriously, you don't even need to be good at programming for this. 
> Anyone can read the Wikipedia page for ChaCha20 or AES and implement 
> the steps one by one. They all have a very detailed explanation of the 
> algorithm steps and test vectors to see if your implementation is 
> correct. You need something like this. 
> 
> Some good examples are DJB's papers or the SHA3/Keccak paper. 
> 
> -- 
> Leo
.>Anyone can read the Wikipedia page for ChaCha20 or AES and implement
>the steps one by one. They all have a very detailed explanation of the
>algorithm steps and test vectors to see if your implementation is
>correct. You need something like this. 

I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible.
It is just sheer impossible to do that for an audience 
who have no knowledge of vector arithmetic.

How on earth can anyone understand what direction cosines mean for innstance?
It would take pages of print to do that alone even though its only a tiny bit of the whole.


It's a bit like a brute force program that has countless candidates to search 
but cannot flag a successful end to the search. It is useless just collecting 
unknown data that cannot be singled out to one  salient member of the search.
 
Yes it was written in Microsoft - I rejected LaTeX althoght I am very proficient in that language .
Microsoft sketching tools are much, much better.

> Any cipher is unbreakable if there is nothing to break. 

I don't know how you mean this but in passing  it is truly a fine tenet 
of cipher design philosophy in my opinion.


AOB

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#50141 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

On 26/09/2021 10:27, austin obyrne wrote:
> I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible.

If your cipher is so vague it cannot be described sufficiently clearly 
to be implemented, what good is it?

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#50150 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 10:27:03 UTC+1, austin obyrne wrote:
> I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible. 
> It is just sheer impossible to do that for an audience 
> who have no knowledge of vector arithmetic. 

Write for an audience that *has* knowledge of vector arithmetic.

> How on earth can anyone understand what direction cosines mean for innstance? 
> It would take pages of print to do that alone even though its only a tiny bit of the whole. 

Only write for people who already have that knowledge. There are enough of them.

M
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#50151 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 10:27:03 UTC+1, austin obyrne wrote:
> I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible. 

It is entirely feasible.
See, for example the AES standard:
http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/FIPS/NIST.FIPS.197.pdf
From that, any moderately competent programmer is able to code the AES cipher
in any programming language.

How is this possible? Clear writing and attention to detail.

M
-- 

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#50152 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

On 26/09/2021 14:27, MM wrote:
> On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 10:27:03 UTC+1, austin obyrne wrote:
>> I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible.
> 
> It is entirely feasible.

If it isn't, ASLEC doesn't exist.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#50155 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 14:39:09 UTC+1, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 26/09/2021 14:27, MM wrote: 
> > On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 10:27:03 UTC+1, austin obyrne wrote: 
> >> I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible. 
> > 
> > It is entirely feasible.
> If it isn't, ASLEC doesn't exist.

Quite so. If you can't describe it well enough for someone else to
implement it, you have nothing.

What is the point of having ideas if you can't communicate them
properly?

M
-- 

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#50156 — Re: ASLEC cipher and Vector Cryptography.

MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 14:39:09 UTC+1, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 26/09/2021 14:27, MM wrote: 
>> > On Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 10:27:03 UTC+1, austin obyrne wrote: 
>> >> I would gladly do that if I thought it was at all feasible. 
>> > 
>> > It is entirely feasible.
>> If it isn't, ASLEC doesn't exist.
>
> Quite so. If you can't describe it well enough for someone else to
> implement it, you have nothing.
>
> What is the point of having ideas if you can't communicate them
> properly?

To get a boost to your ego when clearly knowledgeable people talk about
your "work".  I think 99% of crank posts are about countering the
feeling of being insignificant -- "people are talking about me, I am not
a nobody".  To this end, having ideas that you communicate badly is the
holy grail.  Many the posts will be along the lines of "what do you
mean?" and that's very rewarding attention -- "Yes, my ideas a complex.
Let me break it down for you...".

Even insults are good.  "Your work is junk" is attention.  And if it can
be spun into the "I am obviously challenging the status quo", so much
the better.

-- 
Ben.

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