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Jonathan Frakes BLASTS Star Trek Fans In CYNICAL Starfleet Academy Interview!

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#5850 — Jonathan Frakes BLASTS Star Trek Fans In CYNICAL Starfleet Academy Interview!

From	Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
Date	2026-03-09 04:30 -0400
Subject	Jonathan Frakes BLASTS Star Trek Fans In CYNICAL Starfleet Academy Interview!
Message-ID	<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other 
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call 
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so 
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

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#5851

From	The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com>
Date	2026-03-09 07:57 -0400
Message-ID	<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#5850

Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did 
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
> 
> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other 
> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call 
> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so 
> and it's a media opp.
> 
> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek 
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been 
higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but 
nothing like the objections to more recent shows. 

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop 
than actually watching the latest show. 

-- 
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
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#5852

From	doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Date	2026-03-09 15:35 +0000
Message-ID	<10ompcs$mdj$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>
In reply to	#5851

In article <MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa  <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did 
>weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>> 
>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other 
>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call 
>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so 
>> and it's a media opp.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>
>I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek 
>fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been 
>higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but 
>nothing like the objections to more recent shows. 
>
>At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop 
>than actually watching the latest show. 
>

Some like what is happening in DW cis-a-vis The Timeless Child!

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>Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
>Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos


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All I want to hear from Jesus is WEll Done Good and Faithful Servant.

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#5853

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2026-03-10 11:06 +1300
Message-ID	<10ong8b$3oker$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5851

On 2026-03-09 11:57:06 +0000, The True Melissa said:

> Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>> 
>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>> and it's a media opp.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
> 
> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
> 
> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
> than actually watching the latest show.

That because there are fewer people who know how to make the shows 
properly, and more idiots that want to shoehorn in their own ridiculous 
ill-fitting ideas.

As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the 
"Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even 
knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew 
it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely 
no idea at all.   X-(


* Although he was alone. The later rather silly CGI animated series 
also added more ill-fitting silliness.

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#5854

From	The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com>
Date	2026-03-09 18:35 -0400
Message-ID	<MPG.4419155298780a2e989b4d@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#5853

Verily, in article <10ong8b$3oker$1@dont-email.me>, did 
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
> As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the 
> "Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even 
> knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew 
> it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely 
> no idea at all.   X-(
> 

Okay, but is that relevant to Trek? Or do you just mean that you hate 
him for that? 

-- 
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
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#5855

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2026-03-10 13:31 +1300
Message-ID	<10onooq$3rf5d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5854

On 2026-03-09 22:35:54 +0000, The True Melissa said:
> Verily, in article <10ong8b$3oker$1@dont-email.me>, did
> YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
>> 
>> As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the 
>> "Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even 
>> knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew 
>> it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely 
>> no idea at all.   X-(
> 
> Okay, but is that relevant to Trek? Or do you just mean that you hate
> him for that?

He's basically saying more people don't like each "new Trek" for 
whatever rason, but he ruined Thunderbirds ... so he is a great example 
of how things do get ruined by new idiots being put in charge.

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#5856

From	WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date	2026-03-10 14:11 -0400
Message-ID	<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to	#5851

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
> >
> > This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
> > produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
> > us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
> > and it's a media opp.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>
> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>
> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
> than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn’t much care for V’ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New 
Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first 
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco. 
I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

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#5857

From	The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com>
Date	2026-03-10 15:05 -0400
Message-ID	<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#5856

Verily, in article 
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did 
akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
> 
> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
> (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
> 
> > Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
> > weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
> > >
> > > This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
> > > produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
> > > us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
> > > and it's a media opp.
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
> >
> > I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
> > fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
> > higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
> > nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
> >
> > At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
> > than actually watching the latest show.
> 
> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New 
> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first 
> season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco. 
> I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on 
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of 
ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and 
tone as well. 

-- 
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos

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#5866

From	Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date	2026-03-11 12:11 -0700
Message-ID	<87qzpqfafq.fsf@rpi3>
In reply to	#5857

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

> Verily, in article 
> <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did 
> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
>> 
>> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>> (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
>> 
>> > Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>> > weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>> > >
>> > > This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>> > > produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>> > > us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>> > > and it's a media opp.
>> > >
>> > > https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>> >
>> > I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
>> > fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
>> > higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
>> > nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>> >
>> > At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
>> > than actually watching the latest show.
>> 
>> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New 
>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first 
>> season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco. 
>> I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
>
> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on 
> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of 
> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and 
> tone as well. 

Yeah, forgot about that show. It was quite solid.

The guy who played Sulu was the engineer dude from mythbusters.

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#5881

From	WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date	2026-03-13 18:14 -0400
Message-ID	<0001HW.2F64C3DA006DA1F070000BD2438F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to	#5857

On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):

> Verily, in article
> <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
> >
> > On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
> > (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
> >
> > > Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
> > > weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
> > > >
> > > > This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
> > > > produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
> > > > us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
> > > > and it's a media opp.
> > > >
> > > > https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
> > >
> > > I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
> > > fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
> > > higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
> > > nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
> > >
> > > At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
> > > than actually watching the latest show.
> >
> > Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
> > Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the
> > first
> > season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
> > I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
>
> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
> tone as well.

If it’s like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If 
it’s like Spock’s Brain, I’ll pass.

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#5882

From	Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date	2026-03-13 16:45 -0700
Message-ID	<87cy17fg5f.fsf@rpi3>
In reply to	#5881

WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:

> On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
> (in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
>> Verily, in article
>> <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
>> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
>> >
>> > On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>> > (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
>> >
>> > > Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>> > > weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>> > > >
>> > > > This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>> > > > produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>> > > > us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>> > > > and it's a media opp.
>> > > >
>> > > > https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>> > >
>> > > I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
>> > > fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
>> > > higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
>> > > nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>> > >
>> > > At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
>> > > than actually watching the latest show.
>> >
>> > Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
>> > Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the
>> > first
>> > season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
>> > I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
>>
>> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
>> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
>> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
>> tone as well.
>
> If it’s like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If 
> it’s like Spock’s Brain, I’ll pass.

I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect.

Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
franchise isn't truly dead...

Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is
much more deader-er than star trek.

D

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#5883

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2026-03-14 13:14 +1300
Message-ID	<10p2999$3oe8l$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5882

On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:
> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:
>> On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>> (in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>> Verily, in article
>>> <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
>>> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
>>>> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>>>> (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>>>> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>>>>> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>>>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and 
>>>>>> call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively 
>>>>>> doing so and it's a media opp.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>>>>> 
>>>>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
>>>>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
>>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
>>>>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
>>>>> than actually watching the latest show.
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
>>>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the
>>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better 
>>>> than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
>>> 
>>> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
>>> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
>>> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
>>> tone as well.
>> 
>> If it's like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If
>> itâ€™s like Spockâ€™s Brain, Iâ€™ll pass.
> 
> I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things 
> about it from sources I respect.
> 
> Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved 
> franchise isn't truly dead...
> 
> Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is 
> much more deader-er than star trek.
> 
> D

Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the 
live-action ones.

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#5885

From	Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date	2026-03-14 01:43 -0700
Message-ID	<878qbuer7f.fsf@rpi3>
In reply to	#5883

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

> On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:
>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:
>>> On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>>> (in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>>> Verily, in article
>>>> <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
>>>> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
>>>>> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>>>>> (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>>>>> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>>>>>> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>>>>>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and
>>>>>>> all other
>>>>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us
>>>>>>> and call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out
>>>>>>> actively doing so and it's a media opp.
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>>>>>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star
>>>>>> Trek
>>>>>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
>>>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
>>>>>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>>>>>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to
>>>>>> please stop
>>>>>> than actually watching the latest show.
>>>>> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A
>>>>> Card. Strange New
>>>>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the
>>>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far
>>>>> better than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of
>>>>> Starfleet Academy.
>>>> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production
>>>> available on
>>>> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
>>>> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
>>>> tone as well.
>>> If it's like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no
>>> prob. If
>>> itâ€™s like Spockâ€™s Brain, Iâ€™ll pass.
>> I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
>> about it from sources I respect.
>> Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
>> franchise isn't truly dead...
>> Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise
>> is much more deader-er than star trek.
>> D
>
> Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the
> live-action ones.

Indeed, for sure. Way better. But those series are in the can. Sure
we're getting yet more maul. We'll see if Filoni will stick with his
normal form or if the promotion got to his head.

I hope...

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#5895

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2026-03-15 10:33 +1300
Message-ID	<10p4k6q$jtl9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5885

On 2026-03-14 08:43:48 +0000, Daniel said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
>> On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:
>>> 
>>> I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
>>> about it from sources I respect. Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a 
>>> glimmer of hope that my beloved franchise isn't truly dead... Unlike 
>>> most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is much 
>>> more deader-er than star trek.
>>> D
>> 
>> Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the
>> live-action ones.
> 
> Indeed, for sure. Way better. But those series are in the can. Sure 
> we're getting yet more maul. We'll see if Filoni will stick with his 
> normal form or if the promotion got to his head.
> 
> I hope...

"Young Jedi Adventures" is quite good - even though aimed at 
youngsters, it is still better than some of the live-action shows / 
movies!

There are also some more "Visions" animations coming some stage this year.

There was the "A Droid Story" animated series / film? announced by 
Disney in 2020, but nothing more has been heard of it since then.

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#5884

From	Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
Date	2026-03-13 18:01 -0700
Message-ID	<10p2c12$3p7jd$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5857

On 3/10/2026 12:05 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
> Verily, in article
> <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>> (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>
>>> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>>> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>>>>
>>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>>>> and it's a media opp.
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>>>
>>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
>>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
>>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>>>
>>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
>>> than actually watching the latest show.
>>
>> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
>> season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
>> I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
> 
> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
> tone as well.
> 
I watched 'Continues' back when it came out.  As I recall it was 
ultimately responsible for killing off all the Star Trek fan productions 
because they started raising money to make a Star Trek movie.  Paramount 
didn't mind the fan productions as long as they weren't trying to make 
money but raising a million or two for a movie was way too much so they 
had to let loose the lawyers of war and basically shut _everyone_ down.

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dirty old man.

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#5888

From	The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com>
Date	2026-03-14 06:08 -0400
Message-ID	<MPG.441efd8d3b63ae24989b78@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#5884

Verily, in article <10p2c12$3p7jd$5@dont-email.me>, did 
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
> 
> On 3/10/2026 12:05 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
> > Verily, in article
> > <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
> > akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
> >>
> >> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
> >> (in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
> >>
> >>> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
> >>> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
> >>>>
> >>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
> >>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
> >>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
> >>>> and it's a media opp.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
> >>>
> >>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
> >>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
> >>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
> >>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
> >>>
> >>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
> >>> than actually watching the latest show.
> >>
> >> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
> >> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
> >> season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
> >> I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
> > 
> > I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
> > YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
> > ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
> > tone as well.
> > 
> I watched 'Continues' back when it came out.  As I recall it was 
> ultimately responsible for killing off all the Star Trek fan productions 
> because they started raising money to make a Star Trek movie.  Paramount 
> didn't mind the fan productions as long as they weren't trying to make 
> money but raising a million or two for a movie was way too much so they 
> had to let loose the lawyers of war and basically shut _everyone_ down.

I watched a video about this the other day. You're thinking of Axanar, 
which was done by a different group of fans. The Star Trek Continues 
project was completed without incident. 

There are a bunch of these. Star Trek Phase II is another one I see on 
YouTube, and there's one about the adventures of a ship called the 
Farragut. 

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#5907

From	Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
Date	2026-03-20 21:22 -0400
Message-ID	<10pkrsq$227gl$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5884

In article <10p2c12$3p7jd$5@dont-email.me>, dtravel@sonic.net wrote:
> On 3/10/2026 12:05 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
>> akwolffan@zoho.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
>>>> weberm@polaris.net wrote:

>>>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>>>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>>>>> and it's a media opp.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>>>>
>>>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
>>>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
>>>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>>>>
>>>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
>>>> than actually watching the latest show.
>>>
>>> Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
>>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the 
>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better 
>>> than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.
>> 
>> I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
>> YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
>> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
>> tone as well.
>> 
>I watched 'Continues' back when it came out.  As I recall it was 
>ultimately responsible for killing off all the Star Trek fan productions 
>because they started raising money to make a Star Trek movie.  Paramount 
>didn't mind the fan productions as long as they weren't trying to make 
>money but raising a million or two for a movie was way too much so they 
>had to let loose the lawyers of war and basically shut _everyone_ down.

Paramount should have hired them.

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love this country.

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#5865

From	Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Date	2026-03-11 12:10 -0700
Message-ID	<87v7f2faie.fsf@rpi3>
In reply to	#5851

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

> Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did 
> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>> 
>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other 
>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call 
>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so 
>> and it's a media opp.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>
> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek 
> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been 
> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but 
> nothing like the objections to more recent shows. 
>
> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop 
> than actually watching the latest show. 

It's a growing movement. People want it to stop altogether. I guess the
community still cares about the whole thing. The franchise was epsteined
so I don't care either way. My breaking point was STD. Picard was
unwatchable. I won't bother with the shit in production. The premise is
sooooooooo fucking stupid.

Objections to TNG were very minimal. My evidence on it was the sudden
surge in convention attendance. It grew leaps and bounds during the TNG
era. Resistence to DS9 came from the fact that it wasn't based on a
ship. I have friends who still refuse to watch DS9 because none of them
consider starfleet politics a compelling story basis. So, to them it's
all preference.

I was in the service during DS9's run so I didn't watch it until many
years later. Rather enjoyed it. It was fun to watch the actors interpret
characters who didn't really like or trust each other and learn to work
together in a cohesive unit. And, also, characters who didn't want to
be there to begin with. The acting  on that show was really worthy.

Also, bonus the recurring female actors were eye candy.

Daniel
sysop  | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw

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#5867

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2026-03-12 09:37 +1300
Message-ID	<10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#5865

On 2026-03-11 19:10:01 +0000, Daniel said:
> The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
>> Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>>> 
>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>>> and it's a media opp.
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>> 
>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek 
>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been 
>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but 
>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>> 
>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop 
>> than actually watching the latest show.
> 
> It's a growing movement. People want it to stop altogether. I guess the 
> community still cares about the whole thing. The franchise was 
> epsteined so I don't care either way. My breaking point was STD. Picard 
> was unwatchable. I won't bother with the shit in production. The 
> premise is sooooooooo fucking stupid.
> 
> Objections to TNG were very minimal. My evidence on it was the sudden 
> surge in convention attendance. It grew leaps and bounds during the TNG 
> era. Resistence to DS9 came from the fact that it wasn't based on a 
> ship. I have friends who still refuse to watch DS9 because none of them 
> consider starfleet politics a compelling story basis. So, to them it's 
> all preference.

Some complaints were also that is was simply a rip-off of "Babylon 5" 
since both were based around a space station, but "Deep Space 9" has 
far less political nonsense and is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better show. "Deep 
Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo, 
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the 
downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").



> I was in the service during DS9's run so I didn't watch it until many 
> years later. Rather enjoyed it. It was fun to watch the actors 
> interpret characters who didn't really like or trust each other and 
> learn to work together in a cohesive unit. And, also, characters who 
> didn't want to be there to begin with. The acting  on that show was 
> really worthy.
> 
> Also, bonus the recurring female actors were eye candy.
> 
> Daniel
> sysop  | air & wave bbs
> finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw

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#5868

From	The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com>
Date	2026-03-11 17:15 -0400
Message-ID	<MPG.441ba590f74f0801989b5c@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#5867

Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did 
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
> "Deep 
> Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo, 
> but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the 
> downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").


What's your pick for the best? 

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