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Re: Jonathan Frakes BLASTS Star Trek Fans In CYNICAL Starfleet Academy Interview!

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Subject	Re: Jonathan Frakes BLASTS Star Trek Fans In CYNICAL Starfleet Academy Interview!
Date	2026-03-12 09:37 +1300
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On 2026-03-11 19:10:01 +0000, Daniel said:
> The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
>> Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
>> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>>> 
>>> This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
>>> and it's a media opp.
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
>> 
>> I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek 
>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been 
>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but 
>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
>> 
>> At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop 
>> than actually watching the latest show.
> 
> It's a growing movement. People want it to stop altogether. I guess the 
> community still cares about the whole thing. The franchise was 
> epsteined so I don't care either way. My breaking point was STD. Picard 
> was unwatchable. I won't bother with the shit in production. The 
> premise is sooooooooo fucking stupid.
> 
> Objections to TNG were very minimal. My evidence on it was the sudden 
> surge in convention attendance. It grew leaps and bounds during the TNG 
> era. Resistence to DS9 came from the fact that it wasn't based on a 
> ship. I have friends who still refuse to watch DS9 because none of them 
> consider starfleet politics a compelling story basis. So, to them it's 
> all preference.

Some complaints were also that is was simply a rip-off of "Babylon 5" 
since both were based around a space station, but "Deep Space 9" has 
far less political nonsense and is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better show. "Deep 
Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo, 
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the 
downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").



> I was in the service during DS9's run so I didn't watch it until many 
> years later. Rather enjoyed it. It was fun to watch the actors 
> interpret characters who didn't really like or trust each other and 
> learn to work together in a cohesive unit. And, also, characters who 
> didn't want to be there to begin with. The acting  on that show was 
> really worthy.
> 
> Also, bonus the recurring female actors were eye candy.
> 
> Daniel
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