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  unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 09:18 -0800
    Re: unloock a phone Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 09:58 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 10:40 -0700
    Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:08 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 10:58 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 14:25 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 22:32 -0500
            Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-01 22:00 +1100
          Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800
            Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:28 -0800
              Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 11:29 -0800
                Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800
                  Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-12 09:55 -0800
                    Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-15 11:40 -0800
                      Re: unlock a phone The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-21 16:46 -0700
    Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 12:08 +1100
      Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 06:10 -0800
        Re: unloock a phone Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-02-28 17:37 +0100
        Re: unloock a phone Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-29 11:24 +1100
          Re: unloock a phone "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesgurlz@t-girls.com> - 2016-02-28 16:50 -0800
      Re: unloock a phone Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2016-02-29 19:52 +0000
        Re: unloock a phone Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-02-29 13:14 -0800
          Re: unloock a phone Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-02-29 17:19 -0800
    [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 23:30 +0800
      Re: [OT] Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 17:53 -0500
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:17 +0800
      Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 19:59 -0800
        Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:19 +0800
          Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 14:44 -0800
            Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:53 +0800
              Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:16 -0800
                Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:46 +0800
                  Re: [OT] Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 07:17 -0800
                    Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 22:22 -0800
                      Re: [OT] Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 06:38 -0800
                  Re: [OT] The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:24 -0800
    [OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:58 +0800
    Re: unloock a phone, NO< its about them unlocking everyone's phones tesla sTinker <staff@truecarpentry.net> - 2016-03-13 11:27 -0700

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#434246

Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
news:djevknFhclsU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:08:37 GMT
in alt.2600, wrote: 

> On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> How stupid can they be????
>>
>>
>> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
>> stupid guys...but i didn't know
>> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>>
>> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>>
>> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>>
>>
>>
>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>>
>>
>> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>>
>>
>>
>> I mean I don't get it?
>>
>>
>> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search
>> for digging tunnels, right???? 
>>
>>
>> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
>> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>>
>>
>> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!
>>
> 
> You presumably think any competent hacker could get in.
> 
> The problem is that hacking involves the exploitation of mistakes
> in software, and that exploitation requires that the software be
> willing to interact with the hacker to some extent.
> 
> The phone is in a state where the only things it's willing to do
> is to accept and check a PIN, and presumably also to accept
> software updates signed by Apple. If that's all it will do, and
> trying multiple PINS will result in its being wiped, then either
> Apple has to sign a special version of the software, or the FBI
> are stuck. 
> 
> There are possible hardware attacks, but their feasibility depends
> on exactly how the hardware is structured. In addition, a hardware
> attack risks destroying the electronics, and with it the very
> information the FBI wants to recover.
> 
> Sylvia.

Very well stated. 
 



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I sure hope you do, though...
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#434262

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 2:55:11 PM UTC-5, Diesel wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
> news:djevknFhclsU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:08:37 GMT
> in alt.2600, wrote: 
> 
> > On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?

Unloock?

The phone was contaminated with garlic?

Kevin R

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#434289

On 2/29/2016 1:14 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 2:55:11 PM UTC-5, Diesel wrote:
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
>> news:djevknFhclsU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:08:37 GMT
>> in alt.2600, wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/02/2016 4:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
> Unloock?
>
> The phone was contaminated with garlic?
>
It saw things iPhones weren't meant to see.


-- 
Now the Force-Ghost of DTravel since he was forced by shame to commit 
hara-kiri with a dull light-spork after liking the Abrams/Bad Robot Star 
Wars movie.

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#434157 — [OT]

On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> ...

Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not 
computer science and crime fighting.

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#434182 — Re: [OT]

On 28 Feb 2016, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote
(in article <nav3ke$3m2$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> > ...
> 
> Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not
> computer science and crime fighting.

You’re replying to the startwit. You failed to edit the newsgroup list, so 
you just replied to the same groups he crapped on in the first place, only 
one of which is s.p.r. Hint: I saw your ‘this newsgroup’ in a newsgroup 
which most definitely is not s.p.r, as I don’t follow that group and never 
have. Hint the second: I killfiled the startwit a long time ago. May I 
suggest that instead of replying to him that you do the same? If you had done 
this you would not see any more of his crap, and, more importantly, I would 
not currently be wasting my time replying on a startwit thread.

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#434218 — Re: [OT]

On 2/29/2016 6:53 AM, Wolffan wrote:
> .... this you would not see any more of his crap, and,
 > more importantly, I would not currently be wasting
 > my time replying on a startwit thread.
>

Well, I have some spare time!

Thank your for reminding us, Your Honor! :)

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#434205 — Re: [OT]

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
> > ...
> 
> Did you forget that this newsgroup is sci.physics.relativity, not
> computer science and crime fighting.


Where there is a lock...there is a key.


If the universe is in some kind of code....you need to unlock it.

The rules apply everywhere...

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#434219 — Re: [OT]

On 2/29/2016 11:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Where there is a lock...there is a key.
> If the universe is in some kind of code....you need to unlock it.
> The rules apply everywhere...
>

You still need the key. And the key is supposed to be visible only to 
the owner of the lock.

Well, you are really into encryption, irreversible encryption and 
decryption, which are more mathematics topics.

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#434272 — Re: [OT]

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 2/29/2016 11:59 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Where there is a lock...there is a key.
> > If the universe is in some kind of code....you need to unlock it.
> > The rules apply everywhere...
> >
> 
> You still need the key. And the key is supposed to be visible only to
> the owner of the lock.
> 
> Well, you are really into encryption, irreversible encryption and
> decryption, which are more mathematics topics.


 key. 2 a : a means of gaining or preventing entrance.


I don't need a physical key to gain entrance/unlock...i just kick the
fuckin door down..it's now open.


you tv set is mines!

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#434328 — Re: [OT]

On 3/1/2016 6:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>   key. 2 a : a means of gaining or preventing entrance.
> I don't need a physical key to gain entrance/unlock...i just kick the
> fuckin door down..it's now open.
>

You can't do that with electronics and software locks. :)

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#434368 — Re: [OT]

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 3/1/2016 6:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> >   key. 2 a : a means of gaining or preventing entrance.
> > I don't need a physical key to gain entrance/unlock...i just kick the
> > fuckin door down..it's now open.
> >
> 
> You can't do that with electronics and software locks. :)


It doesn't make any difference what kind of lock it is...


If there is a lock, there's a key.

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#434403 — Re: [OT]

On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> If there is a lock, there's a key.
>

There is irreversible encryption! :)

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#434410 — Re: [OT]

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 8:59:31 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > If there is a lock, there's a key.

Keys can be destroyed. 
The there is a lock, but no key.

> There is irreversible encryption! :)

If its irreversible, its no longer encryption. There are irreversible 
operations in the cryptographer's tool kit; hashes and digests.
But they aren't encryption.

pt

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#434512 — Re: [OT]

Peter Trei wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 8:59:31 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > If there is a lock, there's a key.
> 
> Keys can be destroyed.
> The there is a lock, but no key.


Then you call the locksmith...and he'll make you a key.

Let's not forget the definitions of a key...

 a means of gaining or preventing entrance.


You cannot destroy    'means of gaining  entrance'





> 
> > There is irreversible encryption! :)
> 
> If its irreversible, its no longer encryption. There are irreversible
> operations in the cryptographer's tool kit; hashes and digests.
> But they aren't encryption.
> 
> pt

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#434533 — Re: [OT]

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:21:32 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Peter Trei wrote:
> > 
> > On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 8:59:31 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > > On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If there is a lock, there's a key.
> > 
> > Keys can be destroyed.
> > The there is a lock, but no key.
> 
> 
> Then you call the locksmith...and he'll make you a key.
> 
> Let's not forget the definitions of a key...
> 
>  a means of gaining or preventing entrance.
> 
> 
> You cannot destroy    'means of gaining  entrance'

We can destroy 'means of decryption'.

> > > There is irreversible encryption! :)
> > 
> > If its irreversible, its no longer encryption. There are irreversible
> > operations in the cryptographer's tool kit; hashes and digests.
> > But they aren't encryption.

The apple phone is protected by a 256 AES key. That's 2^256 possiblities, or
115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936

Try sitting down and figuring out how long it will take you to guess the right
key. 

pt

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#434476 — Re: [OT]

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> On 3/2/2016 6:16 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > If there is a lock, there's a key.
> >
> 
> There is irreversible encryption! :)


obama is the password.

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#434330 — [OT] Go misc.phone.mobile.iphone

On 2/27/2016 1:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>

You might want to raise your questions in a newsgroup called 
"misc.phone.mobile.iphone"!

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#435569 — Re: unloock a phone, NO< its about them unlocking everyone's phones

I think they are lying.
For it would be good public publicity to claim they need apple
to unlock it.  I do mean, once this is thrown through in a court of law,
the ice is broken then.  And it would mean, they could make anyone
do anything so by doing so, they make the crooks think, they have to
destroy the phone instead or ,NOT USE IT...

This, is what they are trying to do. Stop them from using.  Because
they have not made that machine that hooks up to phones and unlocks them 
yet.  But, they are working on it....

Now this is what makes sense.   And, I would not help them either,
for the feds are more snotty and crooked than the one in Rome that calls
himself a pope.....   Not to mention, all that loot they have
taken from the taxpayers of the United States, and never gave it back.
Trillions of Dollars unaccounted for, and still,  Nothing is done about 
it.   Now, do they really think they are going to get anyone to
cooperate with them?  Obama, Bush, Cheney, And, these rotten Feds.
They are guilty of mass murder all of them, including the FEDs.  And,
they want to get you next no doubt, and throw away the key.  Because you 
see, if they can scare you enough, they feel they can get away with it 
all.  And that is why, they are doing this.

On 2/26/2016 9:18 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
>
>
> How stupid can they be????
>
>
> I mean...I know the FBI are just a bunch of wet behind the ears
> stupid guys...but i didn't know
> they didn't know how to unlock a phone.
>
> Couldn't they simply do a google search?
>
> Or some 3 year old on youtube could should show them how...
>
>
>
> you mean to tell me the F.B.I don't know how to unlock a phone?
>
>
> i mean...How stupid can they be????
>
>
>
> I mean I don't get it?
>
>
> I mean, if you want to bust out of jail, you do a google search for digging tunnels, right????
>
>
> I mean, a FBI guy should be able to go home and
> ask his 6 year old son "Can you unlock this for me??"
>
>
> Even a 3 year old knows you don't call APPLE!

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