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| Started by | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:55 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 07:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:40 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. boothby171@gmail.com - 2015-09-01 09:34 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-09 12:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:35 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. boothby171@gmail.com - 2015-09-01 09:28 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-17 10:33 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 00:51 -0700
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 15:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:17 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 00:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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Attila < wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > > > "If a tree fell down in the > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. > > If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is > unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure > varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined > as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. > They will be created by every such disturbance. > > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of > the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound.
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| Date | 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700 |
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The Starmaker wrote: > > Attila < wrote: > > > > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > > > > > "If a tree fell down in the > > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test > > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it > > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer > > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct > > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. > > > > If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is > > unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure > > varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined > > as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. > > They will be created by every such disturbance. > > > > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of > > the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record > > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. > > If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound. In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear sounds.
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| Date | 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400 |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Attila < wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> > >> > > "If a tree fell down in the >> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test >> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it >> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer >> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct >> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. >> > >> > If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is >> > unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure >> > varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined >> > as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. >> > They will be created by every such disturbance. >> > >> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of >> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record >> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. >> >> If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound. > > >In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear >sounds. According to you there is nothing to record. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| Date | 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700 |
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Attila < wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> Attila < wrote: > >> > > >> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > >> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> > > >> > > "If a tree fell down in the > >> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test > >> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it > >> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer > >> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct > >> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. > >> > > >> > If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is > >> > unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure > >> > varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined > >> > as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. > >> > They will be created by every such disturbance. > >> > > >> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of > >> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record > >> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. > >> > >> If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound. > > > > > >In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear > >sounds. > > According to you there is nothing to record. Not according to me....it might record something, but it won't be sounds. unless of course the tape recorder grows ears.
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:08:02 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55E489F2.457@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> Attila < wrote: >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> >> > alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > "If a tree fell down in the >> >> > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test >> >> > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it >> >> > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer >> >> > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct >> >> > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. >> >> > >> >> > If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is >> >> > unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure >> >> > varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined >> >> > as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. >> >> > They will be created by every such disturbance. >> >> > >> >> > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of >> >> > the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record >> >> > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. >> >> >> >> If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound. >> > >> > >> >In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear >> >sounds. >> >> According to you there is nothing to record. > > >Not according to me....it might record something, but it won't be >sounds. > > >unless of course the tape recorder grows ears. What else does a tape recorder record if not sounds? -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:08:57 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55E354C9.3D3A@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrs95u$tf5$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >> > "If a tree fell down in the >> >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test >> >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it >> >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer >> >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct >> >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. >> >> If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is >> unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure >> varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined >> as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. >> They will be created by every such disturbance. >> >> In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of >> the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record >> will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. > > >If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound. See my reply to a prior post. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55E74B6A.7339@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #421620 |
Most atheist believe the universe is mathematical. I mean, they actually believe the universe is Mathematical. But, if i go to the moon and look around.. i don't see any mathematics. i don't see any...numbers. If i go to Mars i don't see any mathematics. i don't see any...numbers. Where is this mathematics they are seeing? Is it hidden?? Because, it only exist in their mind. Mathematics is based on belief, not science. Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen..
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| From | Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ms8gcd$ld3$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #421818 |
Date-Marshmallow Waldorf Salad Prep 20 m Ready In 1 h 20 m Ingredients 2 cups peeled, diced tart apples 1 tablespoon white sugar 1 teaspoon lemon juice 1 pinch salt 1/2 cup chopped celery 1/2 cup chopped pitted dates 1/2 cup chopped walnuts 1/4 cup mayonnaise 1/2 cup heavy cream 1/4 cup miniature marshmallows Directions Place the apples in a medium serving bowl and sprinkle with sugar, lemon juice and salt. Stir in the celery, dates and walnuts. In a separate bowl, whip the cream with an electric mixer until it can hold a peak. Mix in mayonnaise and gently fold into the apple mixture along with the marshmallows. Refrigerate for at least 1 hour before serving.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55E7C949.4DA9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #421818 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Most atheist > believe > the universe is > mathematical. > > I mean, they actually > believe the universe is > Mathematical. > > But, if i go > to the moon > and look around.. > i don't see any mathematics. > > i don't see any...numbers. > > If i go to Mars > > i don't see any mathematics. > > i don't see any...numbers. > > Where is this > mathematics > they are seeing? > > Is it hidden?? > > Because, it only exist in their mind. > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw 36-26-36.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55E94C53.43FF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #421881 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Most atheist > > believe > > the universe is > > mathematical. > > > > I mean, they actually > > believe the universe is > > Mathematical. > > > > But, if i go > > to the moon > > and look around.. > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > If i go to Mars > > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > Where is this > > mathematics > > they are seeing? > > > > Is it hidden?? > > > > Because, it only exist in their mind. > > > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > > > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > 36-26-36. no, it's just a rock.. There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... What place is this ...mathematics in? It has to be...somewhere? Pluto?? I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55E9FEA5.5836@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #421984 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Most atheist > > > believe > > > the universe is > > > mathematical. > > > > > > I mean, they actually > > > believe the universe is > > > Mathematical. > > > > > > But, if i go > > > to the moon > > > and look around.. > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > > > If i go to Mars > > > > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > > > Where is this > > > mathematics > > > they are seeing? > > > > > > Is it hidden?? > > > > > > Because, it only exist in their mind. > > > > > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > > > > > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > > > > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > > 36-26-36. > > no, it's just a rock.. > > There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? > > Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. > > What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... > > What place is this ...mathematics in? > > It has to be...somewhere? > > Pluto?? > > I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... > > It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no > proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. If I believe that the uninverse is mathematical...i would be imagining things, wouldn't I? I would be seeing that which is not there. Maybe i would be...projecting it.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55EE8B6D.6A9F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #421984 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Most atheist > > > believe > > > the universe is > > > mathematical. > > > > > > I mean, they actually > > > believe the universe is > > > Mathematical. > > > > > > But, if i go > > > to the moon > > > and look around.. > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > > > If i go to Mars > > > > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > > > Where is this > > > mathematics > > > they are seeing? > > > > > > Is it hidden?? > > > > > > Because, it only exist in their mind. > > > > > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > > > > > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > > > > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > > 36-26-36. > > no, it's just a rock.. > > There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? > > Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. > > What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... > > What place is this ...mathematics in? > > It has to be...somewhere? > > Pluto?? > > I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... > > It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no > proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must believe there is a ...Mathematician.
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| From | Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <msocfq$5ac$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #422193 |
Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit : > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> Most atheist >>>> believe >>>> the universe is >>>> mathematical. >>>> >>>> I mean, they actually >>>> believe the universe is >>>> Mathematical. >>>> >>>> But, if i go >>>> to the moon >>>> and look around.. >>>> i don't see any mathematics. >>>> >>>> i don't see any...numbers. >>>> >>>> If i go to Mars >>>> >>>> i don't see any mathematics. >>>> >>>> i don't see any...numbers. >>>> >>>> Where is this >>>> mathematics >>>> they are seeing? >>>> >>>> Is it hidden?? >>>> >>>> Because, it only exist in their mind. >>>> >>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science. >>>> >>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. >>> >>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw >>> 36-26-36. >> >> no, it's just a rock.. >> >> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? >> >> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. >> >> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... >> >> What place is this ...mathematics in? >> >> It has to be...somewhere? >> >> Pluto?? >> >> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... >> >> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no >> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. > > > > and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must > believe there is a ...Mathematician. If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to have been created. It's simple logic. -- Olrik aa #1981 EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55EFC7BF.5E72@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #422287 |
Olrik wrote: > > Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit : > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Most atheist > >>>> believe > >>>> the universe is > >>>> mathematical. > >>>> > >>>> I mean, they actually > >>>> believe the universe is > >>>> Mathematical. > >>>> > >>>> But, if i go > >>>> to the moon > >>>> and look around.. > >>>> i don't see any mathematics. > >>>> > >>>> i don't see any...numbers. > >>>> > >>>> If i go to Mars > >>>> > >>>> i don't see any mathematics. > >>>> > >>>> i don't see any...numbers. > >>>> > >>>> Where is this > >>>> mathematics > >>>> they are seeing? > >>>> > >>>> Is it hidden?? > >>>> > >>>> Because, it only exist in their mind. > >>>> > >>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > >>>> > >>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > >>> > >>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > >>> 36-26-36. > >> > >> no, it's just a rock.. > >> > >> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? > >> > >> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. > >> > >> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... > >> > >> What place is this ...mathematics in? > >> > >> It has to be...somewhere? > >> > >> Pluto?? > >> > >> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... > >> > >> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no > >> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. > > > > > > > > and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must > > believe there is a ...Mathematician. > > If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to > have been created. It's simple logic. A creator is only one person. Before God created the universe... He did not exist.
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| From | Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 12:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <acf2db3a-95f9-49c5-8084-ea47f45ef038@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #422292 |
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 1:46:23 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > Olrik wrote: > > > > Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit : > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> > > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Most atheist > > >>>> believe > > >>>> the universe is > > >>>> mathematical. > > >>>> > > >>>> I mean, they actually > > >>>> believe the universe is > > >>>> Mathematical. > > >>>> > > >>>> But, if i go > > >>>> to the moon > > >>>> and look around.. > > >>>> i don't see any mathematics. > > >>>> > > >>>> i don't see any...numbers. > > >>>> > > >>>> If i go to Mars > > >>>> > > >>>> i don't see any mathematics. > > >>>> > > >>>> i don't see any...numbers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Where is this > > >>>> mathematics > > >>>> they are seeing? > > >>>> > > >>>> Is it hidden?? > > >>>> > > >>>> Because, it only exist in their mind. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > > >>>> > > >>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > > >>> > > >>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > > >>> 36-26-36. > > >> > > >> no, it's just a rock.. > > >> > > >> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? > > >> > > >> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. > > >> > > >> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... > > >> > > >> What place is this ...mathematics in? > > >> > > >> It has to be...somewhere? > > >> > > >> Pluto?? > > >> > > >> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... > > >> > > >> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no > > >> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must > > > believe there is a ...Mathematician. > > Nah. Maybe there's just an algorithm > > If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to > > have been created. It's simple logic. > > > A creator is only one person. > > > Before God created the universe... > He did not exist. The Universe (or Multiverse) amy exist as a result of stochastic processes. Kevin R
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| From | Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <msqvpp$fd6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #422292 |
Le 2015-09-09 01:46, The Starmaker a écrit : > Olrik wrote: >> >> Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit : >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Most atheist >>>>>> believe >>>>>> the universe is >>>>>> mathematical. >>>>>> >>>>>> I mean, they actually >>>>>> believe the universe is >>>>>> Mathematical. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, if i go >>>>>> to the moon >>>>>> and look around.. >>>>>> i don't see any mathematics. >>>>>> >>>>>> i don't see any...numbers. >>>>>> >>>>>> If i go to Mars >>>>>> >>>>>> i don't see any mathematics. >>>>>> >>>>>> i don't see any...numbers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where is this >>>>>> mathematics >>>>>> they are seeing? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it hidden?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because, it only exist in their mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science. >>>>>> >>>>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. >>>>> >>>>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw >>>>> 36-26-36. >>>> >>>> no, it's just a rock.. >>>> >>>> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? >>>> >>>> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. >>>> >>>> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... >>>> >>>> What place is this ...mathematics in? >>>> >>>> It has to be...somewhere? >>>> >>>> Pluto?? >>>> >>>> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... >>>> >>>> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no >>>> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. >>> >>> >>> >>> and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must >>> believe there is a ...Mathematician. >> >> If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to >> have been created. It's simple logic. > > > A creator is only one person. > > > Before God created the universe... > He did not exist. But bacon does. -- Olrik aa #1981 EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-04 13:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55EA0096.7FB5@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #421881 |
dobri karagorgov wrote: > > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:14:40 AM UTC+2, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Most atheist > > > believe > > > the universe is > > > mathematical. > > > > > > I mean, they actually > > > believe the universe is > > > Mathematical. > > > > > > But, if i go > > > to the moon > > > and look around.. > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > > > If i go to Mars > > > > > > i don't see any mathematics. > > > > > > i don't see any...numbers. > > > > > > Where is this > > > mathematics > > > they are seeing? > > > > > > Is it hidden?? > > > > > > Because, it only exist in their mind. > > > > > > Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > > > > > > Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > > > > > > > > Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > > 36-26-36. > > every natural law or social agreement to be formulated must gather all the influential parameters that are mathematical magnitudes and put them in equation. the bible says "at >1st the earth was void and without form"... well the form is given by mathematics: you gather the parameters of the function and plot its graphic that graphic is the form. you >are blind for math in a way of accepting the computer machine without the world wide order of them 1's and 0's. the equation of circle is 1^0 = O^on That is a pretty picture you painted... "earth was void and without form", "them 1's and 0's", etc...it looks like an interesting painting. A little abstract...but pretty. You should try using paints and brushes... take a art painting course.. then turn your abstract thoughts from words to paintings and sell it at an art show in New York galleries. I would price it at $30,000.00
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <cv66ua1ceotlutee119m10tasa6280s2s2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #421452 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 15-08-29 05:09 AM, Attila < wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:45 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mrr8pb$rul$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-28 09:25 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:58:12 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrom69$ae3$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> It's all because you actually believe it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently you think all of reality is based upon belief. I am >>>>>> curious. If there is something that no one knows about - an entirely >>>>>> new thing such as a plant or animal or cave - does this thing exist or >>>>>> not exist? Remember, if no one knows about it then no one can have >>>>>> any kind of a belief about it. >>>>> >>>>> If something does not exist, then you or anyone else would not have >>>>> mentioned it. The fact you are now mentioning it, its existence has >>>>> become uncertain. So there is no way to answer your question until I can >>>>> verify its existence. >>>> >>>> Nonsense. People talk about things that don't exist frequently. The >>>> Tooth Fairy, gods, all sorts of literary fiction. The list is large. >>> >>> They are talking about things they know they don't exist. You are >>> talking about a thing that exists but no one knows. You neglected >>> yourself being the one who actually knows. The fact you know it exists >>> has ensured its existence. For me, I have to check to find out whether >>> you are lying or not. So its existence is uncertain. >> >> You are practiced in saying a lot without any content aren't you? > >Not really. Your question somehow is very similar to a Buddhist >philosophical question. It was like this: "If a tree fell down in the >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. You have to excuse hvac. He's a bad tomato. > > >>>> So if I truly believe I can fly like a butterfly I can do so. >>> >>> No, I don't think so. The physical world is an illusion, but it does not >>> mean we can ignore it altogether. We only need to be aware that it's not >>> real, so we will not be fooled to lose our focus in life. >>> >> >> Since you obviously are only interested in convoluted discussions >> where you can keep twisting the thread is as many directions as >> possible without actually going anywhere such a "discussion" becomes >> tiresome after a point. I have reached that point. >> >> Enjoy playing with yourself. > >Thanks for spending time with me. It's always a good exercise for me. > the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mrv78u$nmv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #421546 |
On 15-08-30 11:07 AM, duke wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 15-08-29 05:09 AM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:45 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrr8pb$rul$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-28 09:25 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:58:12 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrom69$ae3$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> It's all because you actually believe it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apparently you think all of reality is based upon belief. I am >>>>>>> curious. If there is something that no one knows about - an entirely >>>>>>> new thing such as a plant or animal or cave - does this thing exist or >>>>>>> not exist? Remember, if no one knows about it then no one can have >>>>>>> any kind of a belief about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> If something does not exist, then you or anyone else would not have >>>>>> mentioned it. The fact you are now mentioning it, its existence has >>>>>> become uncertain. So there is no way to answer your question until I can >>>>>> verify its existence. >>>>> >>>>> Nonsense. People talk about things that don't exist frequently. The >>>>> Tooth Fairy, gods, all sorts of literary fiction. The list is large. >>>> >>>> They are talking about things they know they don't exist. You are >>>> talking about a thing that exists but no one knows. You neglected >>>> yourself being the one who actually knows. The fact you know it exists >>>> has ensured its existence. For me, I have to check to find out whether >>>> you are lying or not. So its existence is uncertain. >>> >>> You are practiced in saying a lot without any content aren't you? >> >> Not really. Your question somehow is very similar to a Buddhist >> philosophical question. It was like this: "If a tree fell down in the >> forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test >> the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it >> shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer >> no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct >> answer, as I have given you, is not sure. > > You have to excuse hvac. He's a bad tomato. No problem. I think I got a little distracted and started to talk about Buddhism. I need to concentrate more. :-) > >> >> >>>>> So if I truly believe I can fly like a butterfly I can do so. >>>> >>>> No, I don't think so. The physical world is an illusion, but it does not >>>> mean we can ignore it altogether. We only need to be aware that it's not >>>> real, so we will not be fooled to lose our focus in life. >>>> >>> >>> Since you obviously are only interested in convoluted discussions >>> where you can keep twisting the thread is as many directions as >>> possible without actually going anywhere such a "discussion" becomes >>> tiresome after a point. I have reached that point. >>> >>> Enjoy playing with yourself. >> >> Thanks for spending time with me. It's always a good exercise for me. >> > > the dukester, American-American > > ***** > "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI > ***** >
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| From | boothby171@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-09-01 09:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69314ef1-c38b-45e8-9a67-bd46c11bef87@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #421452 |
If you're going to define a "sound" as "a pressure wave that is heard only by a set of human ears," then the whole question devolves into a ridiculous tautology (are there ever any other kinds of tautologies??) "If a sound is a pressure wave heard by human ears, and there are no human ears to hear a particular pressure wave, is that pressure wave a sound?" A tree crashing in a forest, regardless of who or what observes it, makes a pressure wave. For the GENERAL definition of sound (the definition that equates pressure wave = sound, regardless of the presense of any observer), YES, the tree makes a sound. Just like a star exploding in a distant galaxy, unobserved by any sentient forms of life, still explodes. Just like your mommy, when she covers her head with a blanket <SPOILERS> *IS STILL THERE UNDERNEATH THE BLANKET!!!*
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