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Brexiit In SF?

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  Brexiit In SF? "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-26 16:04 -0700
    Re: Brexiit In SF? banjo@dontspam.silent.com - 2016-06-27 00:22 +0100
      Re: Brexiit In SF? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 19:09 -0500
        Re: Brexiit In SF? Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2016-06-27 15:19 +0000
      Re: Brexiit In SF? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 18:37 -0700
        Re: Brexiit In SF? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-06-27 01:43 +0000
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 21:32 -0700
    Re: Brexiit In SF? mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2016-06-26 22:36 -0700
      Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-27 04:42 -0700
      Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-28 11:05 +0800
        Re: Brexiit In SF? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 22:31 -0500
          Re: Brexiit In SF? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-27 23:18 -0500
            Re: Brexiit In SF? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-06-28 04:37 +0000
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-06-29 00:36 -0500
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 06:21 -0700
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Brett Dunbar <brett@dimetrodon.me.uk> - 2016-06-28 17:28 +0100
            Re: Brexiit In SF? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-28 12:58 -0400
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-27 21:31 -0700
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 06:24 -0700
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 06:31 -0700
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-28 13:23 -0700
                Re: Brexiit In SF? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-28 13:41 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2016-06-27 22:29 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-06-27 22:49 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-29 14:14 +0800
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 06:20 -0700
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-30 11:35 +0800
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-29 23:02 -0600
        Re: Brexiit In SF? mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2016-06-27 22:37 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-28 12:41 -0400
        Re: Brexiit In SF? Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> - 2016-07-06 22:54 +0000
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-07-07 02:25 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-07-07 11:42 +0100
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 06:52 -0700
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-07-08 11:19 +0800
        Re: Brexiit In SF? "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-07 13:03 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-07-07 20:15 +0000
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 13:52 -0700
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2016-07-08 07:42 +1000
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-07-08 11:21 +0800
            Re: Brexiit In SF? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-07 17:15 -0700
              Re: Brexiit In SF? Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 00:17 -0600
                Re: Brexiit In SF? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-08 12:03 -0700
          Re: Brexiit In SF? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-07-08 05:27 -0700
    Re: Brexiit In SF? T Guy <tim.bateman@redbridge.gov.uk> - 2016-06-28 14:15 -0700
    Brexiit In SF? Richard Botting <rjbotting03@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 10:28 -0700
      Re: Brexiit In SF? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-06-30 11:51 -0700

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#443079 — Brexiit In SF?

From"artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-26 16:04 -0700
SubjectBrexiit In SF?
Message-ID<59c3dcc1-3f3d-4d39-9810-2f874c3e8e14@googlegroups.com>
Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm

Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/

Others

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#443080

Frombanjo@dontspam.silent.com
Date2016-06-27 00:22 +0100
Message-ID<4so0nbp22gi14p8le9esqjmcjv7t74ra25@4ax.com>
In reply to#443079
On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT), "artyw2@yahoo.com"
<artyw2@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>
>Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>
>Others

Brexit is the stupid side of democracy.

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#443082

FromCryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-26 19:09 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA633CCFCBDBA2melchizedek@216.166.97.131>
In reply to#443080
banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote in news:4so0nbp22gi14p8le9esqjmcjv7t74ra25@
4ax.com:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT), "artyw2@yahoo.com"
> <artyw2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>>http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>
>>Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>
>>Others
> 
> Brexit is the stupid side of democracy.

For me, it brings to mind Kornbluth's 'The Marching Morons'

pt

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#443120

FromDon Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
Date2016-06-27 15:19 +0000
Message-ID<20160627b@crcomp.net>
In reply to#443082
Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote in news:4so0nbp22gi14p8le9esqjmcjv7t74ra25@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT), "artyw2@yahoo.com"
>> <artyw2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>>>http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>>
>>>Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>>
>>>Others
>>
>> Brexit is the stupid side of democracy.
>
> For me, it brings to mind Kornbluth's 'The Marching Morons'

Does the verisimilitude stop at the title? :0) Here's yet another take:

The story's Beowulf. The Midlands is Denmark. The Vampire Squid [1] is
Grendel. Mammon is Grendel's mom. Farage is Beowulf.

In this rendition Beowulf hacks Grendel's head clean off during their
first fight. There is no arm trophy. It surprises Beowulf to decapitate
Grendel in one fell swoop during their very first fight. "What are the
odds of that?" asks Beowulf.

In the throes of sudden death Grendel's blood funnel reflexively remains
on the face of humanity for a while. As Grendel's mom appears to unleash
her full fury.

Note.

1. http://preview.tinyurl.com/jha9hve

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU


Peter Pater
Astrogator
Lost his orbit calculator
Out among the asteroids . . .

They rang the Lutine Bell at Lloyd's

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#443085

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-26 18:37 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA633BD77179CFtaustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#443080
banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote in 
news:4so0nbp22gi14p8le9esqjmcjv7t74ra25@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT), "artyw2@yahoo.com"
> <artyw2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>>http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>
>>Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>
>>Others
> 
> Brexit is the stupid side of democracy.

Indeed, but the question is, which is the stupid side?

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#443086

Fromted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Date2016-06-27 01:43 +0000
Message-ID<dtbem5F7pruU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#443085
In article <XnsA633BD77179CFtaustingmail@69.16.179.43>,
Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote in 
>news:4so0nbp22gi14p8le9esqjmcjv7t74ra25@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT), "artyw2@yahoo.com"
>> <artyw2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>>>http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>>
>>>Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>>
>>>Others
>> 
>> Brexit is the stupid side of democracy.
>
>Indeed, but the question is, which is the stupid side?
>

It's like watching a relative get out of a bad marriage..
-- 
------
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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#443090

FromGutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-26 21:32 -0700
Message-ID<XnsA633DB298124Etaustingmail@69.16.179.43>
In reply to#443086
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote in 
news:dtbem5F7pruU1@mid.individual.net:

> In article <XnsA633BD77179CFtaustingmail@69.16.179.43>,
> Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy  <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote in 
>>news:4so0nbp22gi14p8le9esqjmcjv7t74ra25@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT), "artyw2@yahoo.com"
>>> <artyw2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>>>>http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>>>
>>>>Others
>>> 
>>> Brexit is the stupid side of democracy.
>>
>>Indeed, but the question is, which is the stupid side?
>>
> 
> It's like watching a relative get out of a bad marriage..

I'm thinking more of a train wreck, of the sort where two trains run 
into each other head on at high speed. Neither train prospers.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#443093

Frommcdowell_ag@sky.com
Date2016-06-26 22:36 -0700
Message-ID<dd814cf0-7dd7-4675-8408-2295551ba0b9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#443079
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
> 
> Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
> 
> Others

I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of view.

I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD)

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#443116

FromRobert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com>
Date2016-06-27 04:42 -0700
Message-ID<92bd3090-f967-4435-9093-a762a2594c62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#443093
On Monday, 27 June 2016 06:36:10 UTC+1, mcdow...@sky.com  wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
> > http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
> > 
> > Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
> > 
> > Others
> 
> I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of view.
> 
> I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD)

Irish citizens will almost certainly have full access 
to live and work in Britain, the same as always 
(equal opportunities providing).

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#443146

FromRobert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com>
Date2016-06-28 11:05 +0800
Message-ID<dte7r3Fp100U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#443093
On 27/06/2016 1:36 PM, mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>
>> Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>
>> Others
>
> I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of view.
>
> I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD)
>

There is a great deal of talk about Northern Ireland and Scotland 
breaking apart from formerly "great" Britain. If the former does not, it 
is going to have horrible problems with EU customs checkpoints and 
excise along a very squiggly border that many major roads cross more 
than once.
-- 
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

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#443147

FromCryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-27 22:31 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA634EF43A1A81melchizedek@216.166.97.131>
In reply to#443146
Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote in
news:dte7r3Fp100U1@mid.individual.net: 

> On 27/06/2016 1:36 PM, mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote:
>> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com
>> wrote: 
>>> Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
>>> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
>>>
>>> Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
>>>
>>> Others
>>
>> I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which
>> Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous
>> scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's
>> use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a
>> Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of
>> Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political
>> Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of
>> view. 
>>
>> I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my
>> upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first
>> choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged
>> for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was
>> therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the
>> news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could
>> escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's
>> "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF
>> in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide
>> greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD) 
>>
> 
> There is a great deal of talk about Northern Ireland and Scotland 
> breaking apart from formerly "great" Britain. If the former does not,
> it is going to have horrible problems with EU customs checkpoints and 
> excise along a very squiggly border that many major roads cross more 
> than once.

There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
.wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
is not taken. Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.

pt

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#443149

FromDavid DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net>
Date2016-06-27 23:18 -0500
Message-ID<bPidnboquMMQZ-zKnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#443147
On 2016-06-28, Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
> the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
> required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
> .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
> is not taken.

.km ?

ok nope, then .ym looks ok. (Does Cymru mutate in spelling when declined,
maybe?) Or .ku .

> Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
> can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
> as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.

.hi(lander), of course.

Dave
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/	-net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#443153

Fromted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Date2016-06-28 04:37 +0000
Message-ID<dted8fFps1iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#443149
In article <bPidnboquMMQZ-zKnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
David DeLaney  <dbd@vic.com> wrote:
>On 2016-06-28, Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
>> the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
>> required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
>> .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
>> is not taken.
>
>.km ?
>
>ok nope, then .ym looks ok. (Does Cymru mutate in spelling when declined,
>maybe?) Or .ku .
>
>> Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
>> can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
>> as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.
>
>.hi(lander), of course.
>

Too many.  There can be but one.
-- 
------
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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#443226

FromLynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com>
Date2016-06-29 00:36 -0500
Message-ID<nkvmoi$5cd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#443153
On 6/27/2016 11:37 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <bPidnboquMMQZ-zKnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> David DeLaney  <dbd@vic.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-06-28, Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
>>> the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
>>> required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
>>> .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
>>> is not taken.
>>
>> .km ?
>>
>> ok nope, then .ym looks ok. (Does Cymru mutate in spelling when declined,
>> maybe?) Or .ku .
>>
>>> Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
>>> can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
>>> as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.
>>
>> .hi(lander), of course.
>>
>
> Too many.  There can be but one.

+1

Wait, that should be +0.  Wait, no, I want to indicate that I like the 
comment.  Argh!

Lynn

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#443172

FromPeter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-28 06:21 -0700
Message-ID<68417f31-2c2e-4352-a6ea-a6d01309235c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#443149
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 12:18:26 AM UTC-4, David DeLaney wrote:
> On 2016-06-28, Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
> > the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
> > required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
> > .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
> > is not taken.
> 
> .km

Comoros Islands

> 
> ok nope, then .ym looks ok. (Does Cymru mutate in spelling when declined,
> maybe?) Or .ku .

.ym - available, but not evocative
.ku - same


> > Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
> > can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
> > as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.
> 
> .hi(lander), of course.

available.

pt

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#443182

FromBrett Dunbar <brett@dimetrodon.me.uk>
Date2016-06-28 17:28 +0100
Message-ID<cMtDSZvmWqcXFwkf@dimetrodon.demon.co.uk>
In reply to#443149
In message <bPidnboquMMQZ-zKnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, David 
DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> writes
>On 2016-06-28, Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
>> the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
>> required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
>> .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
>> is not taken.
>
>.km ?
>
>ok nope, then .ym looks ok. (Does Cymru mutate in spelling when declined,
>maybe?) Or .ku .

C can take all three mutations, that however doesn't help.

The soft mutation is g, .gy is Guyana so that is no help.
The nasal mutation is the trigraph ngh so that is no help.
The aspirate mutation is the digraph ch, .ch is Switzerland so that is 
no help.
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#443188

From"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu>
Date2016-06-28 12:58 -0400
Message-ID<912cshv6itnr$.1mmvmfzld7chw$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#443149
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:18:21 -0500, David DeLaney
<daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote
in<news:bPidnboquMMQZ-zKnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com> in
rec.arts.sf.written:

[...]

> (Does Cymru mutate in spelling when declined, maybe?) 

After many prepositions it undergoes soft mutation to
<Gymru>; after the preposition <yn> 'in' (which becomes
<yng>) it undergoes nasal mutation to <Nghymru>; and after
<a> 'and' it undergoes aspirate mutation to <Chymru>.

[...]

Brian
-- 
It was the neap tide, when the baga venture out of their
holes to root for sandtatties.  The waves whispered
rhythmically over the packed sand: haggisss, haggisss,
haggisss.

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#443152

FromKevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
Date2016-06-27 21:31 -0700
Message-ID<48fb077e-c5c2-44b2-acc0-eb812e798c52@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#443147
On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 11:31:16 PM UTC-4, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> news:dte7r3Fp100U1@mid.individual.net: 
> 
> > On 27/06/2016 1:36 PM, mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com
> >> wrote: 
> >>> Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
> >>> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
> >>>
> >>> Others
> >>
> >> I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which
> >> Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous
> >> scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's
> >> use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a
> >> Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of
> >> Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political
> >> Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of
> >> view. 
> >>
> >> I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my
> >> upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first
> >> choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged
> >> for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was
> >> therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the
> >> news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could
> >> escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's
> >> "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF
> >> in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide
> >> greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD) 
> >>
> > 
> > There is a great deal of talk about Northern Ireland and Scotland 
> > breaking apart from formerly "great" Britain. If the former does not,
> > it is going to have horrible problems with EU customs checkpoints and 
> > excise along a very squiggly border that many major roads cross more 
> > than once.
> 
> There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
> the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
> required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
> .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
> is not taken. Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
> can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
> as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.

.ab for Alba? .cd for Caledonia?  There are .cymru and .scot

Kevin R

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#443173

FromPeter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-28 06:24 -0700
Message-ID<8c322423-e59b-48e5-90df-f3319a1cc0f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#443152
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 12:31:29 AM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 11:31:16 PM UTC-4, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> > Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> > news:dte7r3Fp100U1@mid.individual.net: 
> > 
> > > On 27/06/2016 1:36 PM, mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote:
> > >> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com
> > >> wrote: 
> > >>> Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
> > >>> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
> > >>>
> > >>> Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
> > >>>
> > >>> Others
> > >>
> > >> I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which
> > >> Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous
> > >> scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's
> > >> use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a
> > >> Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of
> > >> Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political
> > >> Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of
> > >> view. 
> > >>
> > >> I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my
> > >> upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first
> > >> choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged
> > >> for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was
> > >> therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the
> > >> news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could
> > >> escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's
> > >> "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF
> > >> in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide
> > >> greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD) 
> > >>
> > > 
> > > There is a great deal of talk about Northern Ireland and Scotland 
> > > breaking apart from formerly "great" Britain. If the former does not,
> > > it is going to have horrible problems with EU customs checkpoints and 
> > > excise along a very squiggly border that many major roads cross more 
> > > than once.
> > 
> > There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
> > the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
> > required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
> > .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
> > is not taken. Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
> > can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
> > as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.
> 
> .ab for Alba? .cd for Caledonia?  There are .cymru and .scot
> 
> Kevin R

.ab is possible. .cd is the Democratic Republic of Congo. 
They have to be two letters.

pt

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#443174

FromPeter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-28 06:31 -0700
Message-ID<27e98fde-b989-47ea-90b0-ad3d94a2cf29@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#443173
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 9:24:21 AM UTC-4, Peter Trei wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 12:31:29 AM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> > On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 11:31:16 PM UTC-4, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> > > Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote in
> > > news:dte7r3Fp100U1@mid.individual.net: 
> > > 
> > > > On 27/06/2016 1:36 PM, mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 12:04:10 AM UTC+1, art...@yahoo.com
> > > >> wrote: 
> > > >>> Perhaps this, although Scotland doesn't stay home either.
> > > >>> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/england.htm
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Perhaps Terry Bisson was more prescient than he realized/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Others
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm reminded of the background in Greg Bear's "Moving Mars" in which
> > > >> Earth wants to unite with Mars for the purpose of some nebulous
> > > >> scheme which is never properly explained. You could also see Earth's
> > > >> use of almost universal psychiatric treatment and the downfall of a
> > > >> Martian politician in the beginning as a sort of extrapolation of
> > > >> Political Correctness - in a way which meant that Political
> > > >> Correctness would actually make sense, at least from Earth's point of
> > > >> view. 
> > > >>
> > > >> I regard myself as British but am aware that I am marked by my
> > > >> upbringing in Northern Ireland, which would not have been my first
> > > >> choice - especially as my Mother could quite possibly have arranged
> > > >> for me to be born in Glasgow, had she thought about it. I was
> > > >> therefore entirely bemused to hear an Englishman be consoled by the
> > > >> news that his son was eligible for an Irish passport, and so could
> > > >> escape the coming decline of England. Possibly only in Hoyles's
> > > >> "Ossian's Ride" would such a move make sense. (If anybody can find SF
> > > >> in which Northern Ireland/Ulster/Dalriada rises to world-wide
> > > >> greatness I will regard it as an unprecedented challenge to my WSOD) 
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > There is a great deal of talk about Northern Ireland and Scotland 
> > > > breaking apart from formerly "great" Britain. If the former does not,
> > > > it is going to have horrible problems with EU customs checkpoints and 
> > > > excise along a very squiggly border that many major roads cross more 
> > > > than once.
> > > 
> > > There's an ICANN related FB group I'm in, which is currently pondering
> > > the implications of breaking up the UK for the DNS system. ccTLDs are
> > > required to be two characters, and the obvious ones are taken.
> > > .wa is available for Wales by there's nothing derivable from Cymru whic
> > > is not taken. Similarly, Scotland has problems (I suggested if they
> > > can get Russia to finish converting to .ru they could repurpose .su
> > > as 'Scottish Union'. .ul is available for Ulster.
> > 
> > .ab for Alba? .cd for Caledonia?  There are .cymru and .scot
> > 
> > Kevin R
> 
> .ab is possible. .cd is the Democratic Republic of Congo. 
> They have to be two letters.

To clarify: A proper ccTLD is two letters, and a national government has
jurisdiction on the registration of names under its ccTLD.

But as of this morning, there are 1365 official TLDs, most of which are not 
nationally controlled. These include .wales, .scot, .irish, and .london

pt

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