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  Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie) Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2016-05-19 18:59 +0000
    Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie) Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 12:16 -0700
      Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie) Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2016-05-20 13:58 +0000
    Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie) Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-05-20 11:50 +0800
      Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie) Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2016-05-20 13:59 +0000
        Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie) Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-05-21 10:21 +0800

#440369 — Re: OT: Ender's Game (movie)

wds wrote:
>In article <MPG.2cea1c6854014fae989ebe@news.aioe.org>,
>Larry <larryc@peaksky.com> said:
>
>> I haven't seen the movie, but didn't think the book was as good as
>> many people seemed to think. It was a juvie written to appeal to
>> the video game kids, and and excellent financial success.
>
> I didn't think the book was that good because I'd earlier read the
> original novelette (in _Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories_, I
> think), and the novel felt rather bloated in comparison.

The original "lean and mean" short story, novelette, or novella always
works best for me. For the present case that means the "Ender's Game"
short story that appears in the August 1977 issue of Analog.

A copy of an "Ender's Game" DVD recently sat near the top of a pile
at the local Walmart's bargain bin. And the price was right. The movie
pleasantly surprised me. :0)

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

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#440370

On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, Don Kuenz wrote:
> wds wrote:
> >In article <MPG.2cea1c6854014fae989ebe@news.aioe.org>,
> >Larry <larryc@peaksky.com> said:
> >
> >> I haven't seen the movie, but didn't think the book was as good as
> >> many people seemed to think. It was a juvie written to appeal to
> >> the video game kids, and and excellent financial success.
> >
> > I didn't think the book was that good because I'd earlier read the
> > original novelette (in _Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories_, I
> > think), and the novel felt rather bloated in comparison.
> 
> The original "lean and mean" short story, novelette, or novella always
> works best for me. For the present case that means the "Ender's Game"
> short story that appears in the August 1977 issue of Analog.
> 
> A copy of an "Ender's Game" DVD recently sat near the top of a pile
> at the local Walmart's bargain bin. And the price was right. The movie
> pleasantly surprised me. :0)

I too thought it was very underrated. If you recall, there was a storm in a
teacup with people proposing a boycott of the film, due to Card's odious
politics.

pt

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#440391

Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, Don Kuenz wrote:
>> wds wrote:
>> >In article <MPG.2cea1c6854014fae989ebe@news.aioe.org>,
>> >Larry <larryc@peaksky.com> said:
>> >
>> >> I haven't seen the movie, but didn't think the book was as good as
>> >> many people seemed to think. It was a juvie written to appeal to
>> >> the video game kids, and and excellent financial success.
>> >
>> > I didn't think the book was that good because I'd earlier read the
>> > original novelette (in _Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories_, I
>> > think), and the novel felt rather bloated in comparison.
>>
>> The original "lean and mean" short story, novelette, or novella always
>> works best for me. For the present case that means the "Ender's Game"
>> short story that appears in the August 1977 issue of Analog.
>>
>> A copy of an "Ender's Game" DVD recently sat near the top of a pile
>> at the local Walmart's bargain bin. And the price was right. The movie
>> pleasantly surprised me. :0)
>
> I too thought it was very underrated. If you recall, there was a storm in a
> teacup with people proposing a boycott of the film, due to Card's odious
> politics.

IIRC the Rabid Dog dude was the focus of last year's storm. This year
remains storm free AFAIK. Maybe everyone's too enthralled with American
presidential politics to accommodate a SF storm in a teacup this year.

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

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#440381

On 20/05/2016 2:59 AM, Don Kuenz wrote:
> wds wrote:
>> In article <MPG.2cea1c6854014fae989ebe@news.aioe.org>,
>> Larry <larryc@peaksky.com> said:
>>
>>> I haven't seen the movie, but didn't think the book was as good as
>>> many people seemed to think. It was a juvie written to appeal to
>>> the video game kids, and and excellent financial success.
>>
>> I didn't think the book was that good because I'd earlier read the
>> original novelette (in _Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories_, I
>> think), and the novel felt rather bloated in comparison.
>
> The original "lean and mean" short story, novelette, or novella always
> works best for me. For the present case that means the "Ender's Game"
> short story that appears in the August 1977 issue of Analog.
>
> A copy of an "Ender's Game" DVD recently sat near the top of a pile
> at the local Walmart's bargain bin. And the price was right. The movie
> pleasantly surprised me. :0)


I hate short stories with a passion.
I do like really long stories, but I think anything over about seven 
volumes is too much of a good thing and three would have been enough.
-- 
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

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#440392

Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> On 20/05/2016 2:59 AM, Don Kuenz wrote:
>> wds wrote:
>>> In article <MPG.2cea1c6854014fae989ebe@news.aioe.org>,
>>> Larry <larryc@peaksky.com> said:
>>>
>>>> I haven't seen the movie, but didn't think the book was as good as
>>>> many people seemed to think. It was a juvie written to appeal to
>>>> the video game kids, and and excellent financial success.
>>>
>>> I didn't think the book was that good because I'd earlier read the
>>> original novelette (in _Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories_, I
>>> think), and the novel felt rather bloated in comparison.
>>
>> The original "lean and mean" short story, novelette, or novella always
>> works best for me. For the present case that means the "Ender's Game"
>> short story that appears in the August 1977 issue of Analog.
>>
>> A copy of an "Ender's Game" DVD recently sat near the top of a pile
>> at the local Walmart's bargain bin. And the price was right. The movie
>> pleasantly surprised me. :0)
>
>
> I hate short stories with a passion.
> I do like really long stories, but I think anything over about seven
> volumes is too much of a good thing and three would have been enough.

From a literary perspective your approach arguably resembles that of a
specialist. Whereas my own literary approach is arguably generalist in
nature.

    Donsen's Law:

    The specialist learns more and more about less and less until,
    finally, he knows everything about nothing; whereas the
    generalist learns less and less about more and more until,
    finally, he knows nothing about everything.

Our reading styles differ but lead to the same destination. A place
where nobody knows nothing. :0)

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

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#440425

On 20/05/2016 9:59 PM, Don Kuenz wrote:
> Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>> On 20/05/2016 2:59 AM, Don Kuenz wrote:
>>> wds wrote:
>>>> In article <MPG.2cea1c6854014fae989ebe@news.aioe.org>,
>>>> Larry <larryc@peaksky.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen the movie, but didn't think the book was as good as
>>>>> many people seemed to think. It was a juvie written to appeal to
>>>>> the video game kids, and and excellent financial success.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't think the book was that good because I'd earlier read the
>>>> original novelette (in _Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories_, I
>>>> think), and the novel felt rather bloated in comparison.
>>>
>>> The original "lean and mean" short story, novelette, or novella always
>>> works best for me. For the present case that means the "Ender's Game"
>>> short story that appears in the August 1977 issue of Analog.
>>>
>>> A copy of an "Ender's Game" DVD recently sat near the top of a pile
>>> at the local Walmart's bargain bin. And the price was right. The movie
>>> pleasantly surprised me. :0)
>>
>>
>> I hate short stories with a passion.
>> I do like really long stories, but I think anything over about seven
>> volumes is too much of a good thing and three would have been enough.
>
>  From a literary perspective your approach arguably resembles that of a
> specialist. Whereas my own literary approach is arguably generalist in
> nature.
>
>      Donsen's Law:
>
>      The specialist learns more and more about less and less until,
>      finally, he knows everything about nothing; whereas the
>      generalist learns less and less about more and more until,
>      finally, he knows nothing about everything.
>
> Our reading styles differ but lead to the same destination. A place
> where nobody knows nothing. :0)

<rueful smile>
-- 
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

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