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Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre?

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In article <edf79418-83bf-452b-b8aa-b7e785fb2358@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob  <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 5:15:03 PM UTC-4, David Goldfarb wrote:
>> In article <eadd1c40-3080-4898-8012-a59d9bd960fc@googlegroups.com>,
>> Kevrob  <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >Magik, aka
>> >Illyana Nikolievna Rasputina and Colussus's baby sister) had the
>> >wizardry tacked onto mutant teleportation powers.  
>> 
>> She got the magic and the teleportation at exactly the same time,
>> in exactly the same set of stories.  I don't see how you can possibly
>> justify saying that one is "tacked onto" the other.
>
>The magic was the result of living in Belasco's dimension for
>a (subjectively) long time.  The mutant power of teleportation
>was inbuilt.  It's one of those annoying bolt-ons of fantasy to
>an SF setting that comics, if not exclusively, are known for.

Okay, but it's not a matter of adding on magic to a previously-SF
character, like having the Scarlet Witch actually study witchcraft.
The teleportation and the magic were both integral parts of the
character when she was created.

(There *was* a period where, in retrospect and even at the time,
she had already been aged up and was obviously going to have powers
of some sort, but Claremont hadn't yet decided what they were going
to be and what the details of her backstory was.  This makes the
graphic novel _God Loves, Man Kills_ ring a bit oddly in the parts
which involve her.)

-- 
   David Goldfarb          |"The number of times I have been declared 
goldfarbdj@gmail.com       |dead is statistically insignificant,
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |although admittedly non-zero."  -- James Nicoll

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