Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre?

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From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject	Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre?
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Date	2016-09-17 02:07 +0000
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In article <e43i3gFie4cU1@mid.individual.net>,
Robert Bannister  <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>On 17/09/2016 6:40 AM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> On 2016-09-16 03:39, Dan Tilque wrote:
>>> Garrett Wollman wrote:
>>>> The last two Commonweal books are basically one extended "wizard
>>>> school" story, in two volumes.  And since I've been reading them
>>>> recently, I've gotten to wondering: where and how did this subgenre
>>>> get its start?
>>>
>>> In "Magic, Inc." (Heinlein, 1940), there's a witchsmeller named Royce
>>> who has advanced degrees from a prestigious university (Oxford, I
>>> think). I can't remember if they're magic degrees or something else. But
>>> even if they are, it's a purely off-screen example.
>>
>> Which reminds me that Lord Darcy's assistant, Sean, goes to technical
>> conferences on magical research, which include presentation of papers
>> (including pre-prints) and academic rivalries.
>>
>> To the best of my recollection, no schools were specifically mentioned,
>> but the existence of the conferences at least implies the existence of
>> schools where magic is not only taught, but researched.
>
>On the subject of schools, I wish Caroline Stevermer would finish her 
>College Magics series. There were several loose threads that I wanted 
>sorting out.

Oh, second that wish!  We haven't seen the Wardens of the South
or the East yet, and while I assume the Eastern Warden is in
China, whereinhell can the Southern one be?  An Aboriginal
Australian maybe?  How long has the terrestrial sphere been divided
into four quadrants?  

(She would have to do a great deal of research to make it all
work.  Maybe that's why we haven't seen the others yet.)

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2016-09-15 02:36 +0000
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 21:59 -0500
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-09-17 18:06 -0700
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-14 21:07 -0600
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:34 -0700
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-15 04:04 +0000
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-15 04:21 +0000
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-14 21:37 -0700
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-15 03:34 -0600
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 06:21 -0700
      Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-15 08:34 -0700
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-15 08:39 -0700
      Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-15 14:18 -0700
        Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-15 15:18 -0700
          Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-09-16 21:03 +0000
            Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-16 15:21 -0700
              Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-09-17 06:35 +0000
                Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-17 08:34 -0700
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-09-15 11:06 -0700
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 16:46 -0700
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2016-09-16 01:39 -0700
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-16 14:16 +0000
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-16 09:17 -0600
      Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 11:56 -0400
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 17:40 -0500
      Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-09-17 08:46 +0800
        Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-17 02:07 +0000
      Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Richard Todd <rmtodd@servalan.servalan.com> - 2016-09-17 13:26 -0500
        Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 14:57 -0500
  Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? lenona321@yahoo.com - 2016-09-16 11:31 -0700
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 15:51 -0400
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-09-16 17:51 -0700
      Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-17 00:12 -0400
    Re: What's the oldest modern example of the "wizard school" subgenre? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-17 08:49 -0700

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