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Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering?

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From goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Subject Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering?
Message-ID <o9zF9A.CF8@kithrup.com> (permalink)
Date 2016-07-08 05:58 +0000
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In article <nlmdml$vu2$1@dont-email.me>, Lynn McGuire  <lmc@winsim.com> wrote:
>The book looks to a major expansion of his April 2006 message:
>    http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm

I just re-read that message.  My recollection is that in 2006 it sounded
like racist, xenophobic, terrorized bullshit.  Ten years on, it has not
improved one jot.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          |"Never argue with a pedant over nomenclature.
goldfarbdj@gmail.com       | It wastes your time and annoys the pedant."
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |             -- Lois McMaster Bujold

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Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? marilyn.trent@ironmountainsolutions.com - 2016-07-06 10:27 -0700
  Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-07-06 18:11 +0000
    Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-06 11:23 -0700
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 13:20 -0600
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 13:20 -0700
          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 13:53 -0700
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 15:29 -0700
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 16:49 -0600
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-07-06 22:13 +0000
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-07-07 02:23 -0700
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 05:44 -0700
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-07 13:27 +0000
  Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-07 15:22 -0500
    Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-07-07 14:38 -0700
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-07 17:43 -0500
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-07-07 19:20 -0700
    Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-08 05:58 +0000
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 04:44 -0400
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-07-08 07:02 -0500
          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-07-08 10:08 -0600
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-08 17:47 +0000
          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 11:08 -0700
          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 19:46 -0400
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-09 06:57 +0000
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 07:05 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 03:07 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 09:32 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 13:57 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 12:15 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 14:49 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 14:17 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 17:45 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 17:41 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 19:49 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 18:32 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 20:58 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 21:03 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 20:30 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-11 07:03 +0000
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 20:29 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-10 19:17 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-07-10 22:19 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-07-13 02:14 +0000
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-07-10 21:48 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-07-11 06:56 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-07-11 14:32 +0000
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-07-11 08:24 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-11 10:08 -0600
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-09 01:09 -0600
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 07:08 -0400
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-10 02:16 +0300
          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 21:51 -0400
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-09 20:45 -0700
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 23:48 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 01:07 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-09 22:37 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 02:40 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-10 09:43 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 13:58 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:53 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 14:00 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-10 13:56 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 17:46 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-10 16:32 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 19:40 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-10 19:16 -0700
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 01:06 -0400
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-09 22:54 -0500
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-07-10 03:13 -0700
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-07-10 06:22 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 09:37 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-07-10 08:16 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:26 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:58 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 14:03 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-07-10 10:30 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 13:55 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 12:59 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-07-10 14:45 -0400
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          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 15:01 +0200
      Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-08 12:08 -0500
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-08 17:20 +0000
        Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-08 17:45 +0000
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            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-08 14:37 -0500
          Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 19:48 -0400
            Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-08 21:46 -0500
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-08 20:48 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-09 22:56 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-07-10 14:47 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-10 17:54 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2016-07-10 16:01 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-07-10 23:13 +0000
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 19:39 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-10 18:17 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-07-10 16:32 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-10 17:42 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-07-11 02:51 +0000
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-07-10 23:17 -0400
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-07-10 22:17 -0600
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2016-07-10 23:56 -0500
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-07-11 01:41 -0400
              Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-07-10 11:23 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-07-10 11:36 -0700
                Re: Has Dan Simmons truly lost it or is he just pandering? Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-07-11 00:53 -0600

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