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Re: YASID: Different value for pi

From D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: YASID: Different value for pi
Date 2018-11-17 22:46 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <20181117b@crcomp.net> (permalink)
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Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <53fdd436-77ae-4fad-b843-1245cea897c4@googlegroups.com>,
> Robert Carnegie  <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>>Pi is 3 in Bob Shaw's _The Ragged Astronauts_, which I think
>>I've complained about before - specifically the pi thing,
>>though I also found the monsters very unpleasant.  Pi isn't
>>a choice, and it bothers me when a story says that it is.
>
> Except when it's close enough for government work^H^H^H^H^H^H^H...
> estimating.  If I'm making a garment and I know what I want the circumference of
> the neckline to be, and I need to find the radius to set the
> compass to, I calculate pi-D for pi=3, halve D, and it's close
> enough.
>
> You'll recall the story of some dumb State legislature that
> wanted to make pi=3 official; fortunately it was shot down.  They
> were going by the Biblical description of a fbason" (a vat of
> some kind) that was ten cubits across and had thirty decorative
> "bosses" on its rim, each a cubit from the next.  That equates to
> pi=3, but when it's something that size (a cubit is the length of a
> man's forearm from elbow to fingertip), that's close enough.
>
> Modern engineers, making a ballpark estimate, use pi=3 before
> they get down to the actual design, where they have to be more
> accurate.

Close enough for pie, you might say.

✍

Thank you,

-- 
Don

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YASID: Different value for pi eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) - 2018-11-17 15:22 +0000
  YASID: Different value for pi andrewelovejr@msn.com - 2018-11-17 08:49 -0800
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-11-17 17:08 +0000
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) - 2018-11-18 00:42 +0000
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi andrewelovejr@msn.com - 2018-11-17 16:47 -0800
  YASID: Different value for pi andrewelovejr@msn.com - 2018-11-17 08:51 -0800
    YASID: Different value for pi andrewelovejr@msn.com - 2018-11-17 08:52 -0800
  Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-17 09:37 -0800
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi Steve Dodds <sdodds@nova-optical.com> - 2018-11-17 11:41 -0700
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-17 20:02 +0000
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:48 -0500
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:22 -0600
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2018-11-18 13:17 -0500
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-18 21:02 +0000
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-11-19 11:40 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 17:01 -0600
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-18 07:31 -0800
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-18 16:26 +0000
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-11-18 19:52 -0700
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-19 03:33 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-19 01:33 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-19 15:01 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-19 16:23 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-19 13:48 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-19 22:32 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2018-11-19 23:55 +0100
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 15:36 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-20 00:57 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-20 01:47 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-20 04:41 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 17:21 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-20 00:35 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 13:36 -0600
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-18 23:04 -0800
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 11:44 -0500
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-19 01:41 -0800
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:49 -0500
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-17 22:46 +0000
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Jay E. Morris" <morrisj@epsilon3.com> - 2018-11-17 18:38 -0600
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 15:58 -0500
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-11-18 19:55 -0700
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-18 23:08 -0800
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-19 01:37 -0800
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi andrewelovejr@msn.com - 2018-11-19 03:58 -0800
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-19 07:42 -0800
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 08:56 -0500
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-19 14:32 +0000
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-19 07:45 -0800
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 14:56 -0500
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 12:28 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 12:58 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 15:26 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-11-19 15:42 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 20:25 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-11-19 20:45 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-19 22:29 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 06:52 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-12-04 14:23 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 21:47 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 06:53 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 06:13 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 06:56 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 14:26 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-24 19:49 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jerry Brown <jerry@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> - 2018-11-24 21:44 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-24 14:36 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-11-25 01:24 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 13:58 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-11-24 23:20 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-24 22:51 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 11:13 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-12-04 14:21 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 12:30 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-12-05 00:13 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 08:10 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-12-05 08:56 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 11:01 -0700
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-12-05 15:56 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-12-06 17:54 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 17:32 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-12-14 00:34 -0600
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2019-01-01 15:39 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2019-01-01 18:36 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2019-01-01 20:45 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2019-01-01 15:50 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 19:13 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2019-01-01 16:41 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2019-01-02 04:09 +0100
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2019-01-03 14:56 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-12-06 10:19 -0700
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 12:32 -0800
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-19 15:20 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 15:44 -0700
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-11-18 10:39 -0700
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-11-18 12:58 -0700
  Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-17 19:14 +0000
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 18:34 -0800
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 22:44 -0500
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-18 05:12 +0000
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-18 03:43 -0800
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-11-18 09:56 -0800
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-11-18 14:19 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-18 19:23 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-11-18 15:36 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-18 21:06 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-11-18 13:06 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-18 21:04 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-18 18:08 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-19 03:22 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2018-11-19 17:57 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-11-19 20:39 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-18 21:14 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2018-11-19 10:07 -0800
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-18 17:59 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2018-11-19 21:57 +1100
        Re: YASID: Different value for pi Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-26 16:43 -0500
          Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-26 22:07 +0000
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 14:10 -0800
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-26 23:00 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-11-26 15:11 -0800
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-11-26 15:38 -0800
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-26 17:52 -0500
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-11-27 00:27 +0000
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-27 00:53 +0000
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-26 22:11 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-27 04:09 +0000
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-27 10:03 -0800
            Re: YASID: Different value for pi David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-12-04 14:28 -0600
              Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-12-05 18:35 -0500
                Re: YASID: Different value for pi "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2018-12-07 22:44 +1100
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-11-18 04:57 +0000
      Re: YASID: Different value for pi Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-11-18 03:27 -0800
  Re: YASID: Different value for pi eichler2@comcastsucks.net (Bice) - 2019-01-03 22:05 +0000
    Re: YASID: Different value for pi Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2019-01-04 09:02 -0700

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