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Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic

From Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic
Date 2016-11-28 05:44 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <20161127b@crcomp.net> (permalink)
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Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 25 November 2016 16:58:06 UTC, William December Starr  wrote:
>> In article <20161124a@crcomp.net>,
>> Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> said:
>>
>> > That seems to be the way of it with clairvoyance in stories. You
>> > travel back into time with the knowledge of JFK's impending
>> > assassination, for instance. Just as soon as you try to warn
>> > people of it they either put you into jail for planning to
>> > assassinate or they put you into a mental institution.
>>
>> The 1980s iteration of "The Twilight Zone" had a story, "Profile in
>> Silver" (written by J. Neil Schulman) in which a time traveler, a
>> Harvard historian and direct Kennedy-descendant, prevented the
>> assassination in Dallas[1]. Then the local universe began reacting
>> badly to the reality excursion and eventually the guy had to make it
>> right[2].
>>
>> -----------
>>  *0: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734727
>>
>>  *1: He planned on only observing and recording it with device
>>      disguised as a Zapruder-type 8mm camera, but at the last
>>      instant he just couldn't stop himself from interfering.
>>
>>  *2: By substituting himself for JFK at the instant just before the
>>      headshot hit, while shunting the real one into his spot in
>>      the future[3]. The last scene was Kennedy giving a speech at
>>      Harvard in 2172.
>>
>>  *3: Personally I think the producers erred in not using the same
>>      actor, made up differently, for both Kennedy and his
>>      descendant. You can get away with an actor who's portraying a
>>      historical character not looking exactly like that person, but
>>      trying to convince an audience that two different actors look
>>      enough alike that a switch could be made without anyone
>>      catching it, even when the phony only appears to witnesses as a
>>      disfigured corpse, can be too much of a stretch.
>
> I suppose it depends if Mrs. Kennedy is in on it.
>
> JFK probably had full medical records on file, but
> perhaps not accessible on the day - when they wouldn't
> be much use except for identification.  But that seems
> to be covered.
>
> A story would have to be fanfic to include all of
> the aliens and time travellers showing up at that
> time and place in various stories...  and probably
> not worth it, just for that.

youtube hosts many copies of "Profile in Silver." [1] The last Kennedy,
the one who knows about the time traveler, travels to the future. But
there's at least one more Kennedy. That's the Kennedy who's bumped out
of the Lincoln (AKA "The Beast" [2]) immediately before the
assassination.

Although the TZ episode originally ignored the second Kennedy's fate, it
turns out that the many-worlds interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics
[3] resolves the paradox. MWI enables the second Kennedy to continue on
in a parallel world, where he still takes a bullet.

Note.

1. https://www.google.com/search?q=profile+in+silver+site:youtube.com
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States)
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation#Time_travel

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however
improbable, must be the truth. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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  Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-11-23 17:55 -0800
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      Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 21:28 -0500
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    Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2016-11-23 18:30 -0800
      Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-11-24 18:23 +0000
        Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-11-25 11:58 -0500
          Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-11-25 10:10 -0800
            Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-11-25 10:59 -0800
            Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-11-28 05:44 +0000
          Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-11-25 11:03 -0800
            Re: YASID: General Public learns of magic peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2016-11-25 18:07 -0800
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