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Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid

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First post2025-08-16 17:23 -0400
Last post2025-08-19 15:05 +0000
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  Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-16 17:23 -0400
    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 20:56 -0400
      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-17 03:19 +0000
    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2025-08-17 11:39 +0000
    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-17 16:22 +0100
      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 11:27 -0400
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-17 17:59 -0400
      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-17 15:53 +0000
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 14:58 -0400
          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 16:24 -0400
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 18:19 -0400
              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-17 22:33 +0000
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 21:14 -0400
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-18 17:22 +0100
                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-18 17:27 -0400
                    Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-18 18:04 -0400
                      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 22:27 +0000
                        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-18 20:12 -0400
                          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-18 21:18 -0400
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-18 23:51 -0400
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-20 02:41 -0400
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-20 11:21 +0100
                                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-20 13:27 +0100
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 07:37 -0400
                                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-20 10:52 -0400
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-20 08:09 -0400
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-20 14:37 +0000
                          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-19 17:01 +0100
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-19 21:34 -0400
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-20 16:41 +0100
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-20 16:56 +0000
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 15:39 -0400
                      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2025-08-20 23:11 -0400
                      Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2025-08-20 23:11 -0400
                        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> - 2025-08-21 06:50 -0700
                          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> - 2025-08-21 11:04 -0500
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 10:25 -0700
                              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-23 20:19 +0000
                                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> - 2025-08-23 16:07 -0700
                            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 15:42 -0400
                              Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 17:54 -0400
                                Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] Jay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me> - 2025-08-22 18:11 -0500
                                  Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid] Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2025-08-22 20:38 -0400
              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-08-17 21:50 -0400
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 02:19 +0000
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2025-08-17 22:46 +0000
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> - 2025-08-17 20:12 -0400
          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 01:49 +0000
        Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) - 2025-08-18 17:22 +0100
          Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-18 18:18 +0000
            Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 18:59 -0400
              Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 01:28 +0000
                Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 21:50 -0400
                  Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> - 2025-08-19 15:05 +0000

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#146903

FromCryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-22 15:42 -0400
Message-ID<108ah74$1occ1$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146900
On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
> On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>> On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>> A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
>>> want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
>>> invited into someone's home.  There doesn't seem to be so
>>> much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
>>> could open a thermos.
>>
>> Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…
>>
>> I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make 
>> goulash with local ingredients.
>>
> ....
> San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, with 
> strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the "Chili 
> Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. While the 
> exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders who settled 
> in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and cooking techniques 
> from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
> 
> Here's a more detailed breakdown:
> 1. Canary Islander Influence:
> 
>      In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to settle 
> in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in the 
> city's business and political landscape.
> 
> They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin 
> and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild onions, 
> which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
> This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a 
> foundational element of early chili recipes.
> 
> 2. The Chili Queens:
> 
>      In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a popular 
> fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
> 
> These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from 
> outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging 
> personalities and flavorful dishes.
> Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often served 
> with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San Antonio's 
> Tex-Mex culinary identity.
> ....

No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.

I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or No 
Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.

pt

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#146904 — Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]

From"Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-22 17:54 -0400
SubjectChili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]
Message-ID<108aouk$1i7fc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146903
On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
>> On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>> On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>>> A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
>>>> want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
>>>> invited into someone's home.  There doesn't seem to be so
>>>> much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
>>>> could open a thermos.
>>>
>>> Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…
>>>
>>> I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make 
>>> goulash with local ingredients.
>>>
>> ....
>> San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, 
>> with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the 
>> "Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. 
>> While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary Islanders 
>> who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them spices and 
>> cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of the story.
>>
>> Here's a more detailed breakdown:
>> 1. Canary Islander Influence:
>>
>>      In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to 
>> settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in 
>> the city's business and political landscape.
>>
>> They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of cumin 
>> and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and wild 
>> onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
>> This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a 
>> foundational element of early chili recipes.
>>
>> 2. The Chili Queens:
>>
>>      In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a 
>> popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
>>
>> These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from 
>> outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging 
>> personalities and flavorful dishes.
>> Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often 
>> served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San 
>> Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
>> ....
> 
> No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
> 
> I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or No 
> Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.

I go vegan, with beans and soy crumbles (Nutrela, from the Indian 
grocery) to give it texture and more protein. I also make three 
different kinds: green (cannellini/Great Northern beans), mole 
(kidney/pinto beans), and (imitation) Texas Roadhouse (kidney) (though I 
suspect when I have used up my current TR blend of spices, I will retire 
that one).

ObSF: My mole chili recipe was modified from the one LoneStarCon II 
published.

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
Don't ever save anything for a special occasion.
Every day you're alive is a special occasion. -Ann Wells

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#146905 — Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]

FromJay Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.me>
Date2025-08-22 18:11 -0500
SubjectRe: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]
Message-ID<108atfc$1rh75$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#146904
On 8/22/2025 4:54 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
> On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>> On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>>>> A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
>>>>> want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
>>>>> invited into someone's home.  There doesn't seem to be so
>>>>> much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
>>>>> could open a thermos.
>>>>
>>>> Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…
>>>>
>>>> I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make 
>>>> goulash with local ingredients.
>>>>
>>> ....
>>> San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, 
>>> with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the 
>>> "Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. 
>>> While the exact origins are debated, the influence of Canary 
>>> Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with them 
>>> spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key part of 
>>> the story.
>>>
>>> Here's a more detailed breakdown:
>>> 1. Canary Islander Influence:
>>>
>>>      In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to 
>>> settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential in 
>>> the city's business and political landscape.
>>>
>>> They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of 
>>> cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and 
>>> wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
>>> This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a 
>>> foundational element of early chili recipes.
>>>
>>> 2. The Chili Queens:
>>>
>>>      In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a 
>>> popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
>>>
>>> These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from 
>>> outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging 
>>> personalities and flavorful dishes.
>>> Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often 
>>> served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San 
>>> Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
>>> ....
>>
>> No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
>>
>> I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or 
>> No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.

If you only raised a bit of a flamewar there must not have been many 
Texans on it.

> 
> I go vegan, with beans and soy crumbles (Nutrela, from the Indian 
> grocery) to give it texture and more protein. I also make three 
> different kinds: green (cannellini/Great Northern beans), mole (kidney/ 
> pinto beans), and (imitation) Texas Roadhouse (kidney) (though I suspect 
> when I have used up my current TR blend of spices, I will retire that one).
> 
> ObSF: My mole chili recipe was modified from the one LoneStarCon II 
> published.
> 
That one is in my rotation.

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#146906 — Re: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]

FromCryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-22 20:38 -0400
SubjectRe: Chili [was Re: Montreal wins 2027 Worldcon bid]
Message-ID<108b2io$1smg7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146905
On 8/22/2025 7:11 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
> On 8/22/2025 4:54 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
>> On 8/22/25 3:42 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2025 12:04 PM, Jay Morris wrote:
>>>> On 8/21/2025 8:50 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>>>>> On 8/20/2025 8:11 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>>>>> A brief perusal of Google Maps strongly suggests that if
>>>>>> want to have a bowl of chili in Chili, I will have to be
>>>>>> invited into someone's home.  There doesn't seem to be so
>>>>>> much as a public gazebo or even a parking place where one
>>>>>> could open a thermos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, considering that chili is a Tex/Mex concoction…
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard it was invented by Hungarian immigrants trying to make 
>>>>> goulash with local ingredients.
>>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>> San Antonio is widely considered the birthplace of chili con carne, 
>>>> with strong ties to the city's Canary Islander population and the 
>>>> "Chili Queens" who sold it in the late 19th and early 20th 
>>>> centuries. While the exact origins are debated, the influence of 
>>>> Canary Islanders who settled in San Antonio in 1731, bringing with 
>>>> them spices and cooking techniques from their homeland, is a key 
>>>> part of the story.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a more detailed breakdown:
>>>> 1. Canary Islander Influence:
>>>>
>>>>      In 1731, families from the Canary Islands were recruited to 
>>>> settle in San Antonio, forming a community that became influential 
>>>> in the city's business and political landscape.
>>>>
>>>> They brought with them culinary traditions, including the use of 
>>>> cumin and a style of stewing meat with chili peppers, garlic, and 
>>>> wild onions, which closely resembles Moroccan Berber cooking.
>>>> This distinctive blend of spices and ingredients is believed to be a 
>>>> foundational element of early chili recipes.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The Chili Queens:
>>>>
>>>>      In the late 1800s and early 1900s, "Chili Queens" became a 
>>>> popular fixture in San Antonio, particularly in Military Plaza.
>>>>
>>>> These women, mostly of Mexican descent, sold chili con carne from 
>>>> outdoor stalls, attracting locals and travelers with their engaging 
>>>> personalities and flavorful dishes.
>>>> Their chili was typically all beef, with no beans, and was often 
>>>> served with tamales and enchiladas, becoming a defining part of San 
>>>> Antonio's Tex-Mex culinary identity.
>>>> ....
>>>
>>> No beef is the way I like it, but the beany variety is also popular.
>>>
>>> I once raised a bit of a flamewar on reddit by ask "Chili: Beans, or 
>>> No Beans?" in the /askAmericans subreddit.
> 
> If you only raised a bit of a flamewar there must not have been many 
> Texans on it.

It only got 620 responses.

pt

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#146869

Fromkludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Date2025-08-17 21:50 -0400
Message-ID<107u0sh$eor$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#146863
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the 
>border between it is a river.

Is there something rotten there?
--scott
-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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#146870

From"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net>
Date2025-08-18 02:19 +0000
Message-ID<107u2j0$mfc$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#146869
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There's a Denmark in New York, but it's not on the border, and the 
>> border between it is a river.

> Is there something rotten there?

You are William Shakespeare, AICMFP.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146865

Fromdjheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Date2025-08-17 22:46 +0000
Message-ID<t15tx4.1wJq@kithrup.com>
In reply to#146861
In article <107tdpd$2isca$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/17/2025 2:58 PM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
>> On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>>> Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> garym@mcgath.com (Gary McGath) wrote:
>>>>> It's now official, though not surprising:  The 2027 Worldcon will
>>>>> be in Montreal on September 2-6.  I like this since I can drive
>>>>> there in a day, assuming crossing the border is still feasible in
>>>>> 2027.
>>>
>>>> I decided a couple of years ago, no more flying.  Train travel much
>>>> mote relaxing and nice scenery, too.  (And I don't drive.)
>>>
>>> I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
>>> to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
>>> railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
>>> can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
>>>
>>> Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
>>> summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.
>> 
>> Apparently you can travel from the UK to America by train.
>> 
>> America, Netherlands, that is.
>> 
>
>I'm trying to work on a joke itinerary involving the land border
>between Denmark and Canada, but haven't come up with something.

[Hal Heydt]
You used to be able to do a trip like that from Greenland to
Canada.  Peter Fruechen made that trip.  Probably much harder
now.  A lot less ice in the winter.

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#146866

FromGary McGath <garym@mcgath.com>
Date2025-08-17 20:12 -0400
Message-ID<107tr4r$2md8d$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146859
On 8/17/25 11:53 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

> I know it's possible to take a train from the UK through the Chunnel
> to Europe, and presumably also to Asia.  But unfortunately, there's no
> railroad tunnel or bridge between Siberia and Alaska, so I doubt you
> can get the whole way to Montreal by rail.
> 
> Maybe plans for such a connection were discussed at the recent Alaska
> summit meeting.  That way something productive would have come from it.

I don't think you can get to the Russian side of the Bering Strait by 
rail. About the closest you can get is Yakutsk.

-- 
Gary McGath    http://www.mcgath.com

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#146868

From"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net>
Date2025-08-18 01:49 +0000
Message-ID<107u0r7$rr6$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#146866
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
> I don't think you can get to the Russian side of the Bering Strait
> by rail.  About the closest you can get is Yakutsk.

That's what Putin wants you to think.  Sarah Palin will be very
surprised when the Russians invade her state by rail.  It is, after
all, rightfully Russian territory.  Seward cheated.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146871

Fromprd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer)
Date2025-08-18 17:22 +0100
Message-ID<memo.20250818172201.10324A@pauldormer.cix.co.uk>
In reply to#146859
In article <107stui$8pf$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:

> UK through the Chunnel

That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.

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#146873

From"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net>
Date2025-08-18 18:18 +0000
Message-ID<107vqp8$jtu$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#146871
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
>> UK through the Chunnel

> That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.

In that case, it's just as well that a tunnel under the Bering Strait
has never been built.  I would have embarrassed myself by calling it
the Strunnell.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146877

From"Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-18 18:59 -0400
Message-ID<1080b83$3doe1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146873
On 8/18/25 2:18 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>> kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
>>> UK through the Chunnel
> 
>> That name never caught on, it's always the Channel tunnel.
> 
> In that case, it's just as well that a tunnel under the Bering Strait
> has never been built.  I would have embarrassed myself by calling it
> the Strunnell.

Or the Bunnell.

Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
of a Bering Strait Tunnel
(<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
<https://www.interbering.com>), among others.

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of
the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to
the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked. -Psalm 82:2-4

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#146880

From"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net>
Date2025-08-19 01:28 +0000
Message-ID<1080jv1$e4h$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#146877
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
> of a Bering Strait Tunnel
> (<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
> <https://www.interbering.com>), among others.

YASID:  I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project.
It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the
results of time travel.  Does anyone recall this?  Thanks.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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#146882

From"Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-18 21:50 -0400
Message-ID<1080l8m$3fmjk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146880
On 8/18/25 9:28 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
>> of a Bering Strait Tunnel
>> (<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
>> <https://www.interbering.com>), among others.
> 
> YASID:  I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project.
> It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the
> results of time travel.  Does anyone recall this?  Thanks.

As they say, "DuckDuckGo is your friend." "Subterrestrial" by Michael 
McBride.

-- 
Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of
the wicked? Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to
the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked. -Psalm 82:2-4

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#146885

From"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net>
Date2025-08-19 15:05 +0000
Message-ID<10823ri$1uf$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#146882
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Apparently there are groups promoting the idea
>>> of a Bering Strait Tunnel
>>> (<https://www.intercontinentalrailway.com> and
>>> <https://www.interbering.com>), among others.

>> YASID:  I seem to recall an old SF story about such a construction project.
>> It discovered ancient remains of a similar project, which proved to be the
>> results of time travel.  Does anyone recall this?  Thanks.

> As they say, "DuckDuckGo is your friend." "Subterrestrial" by
> Michael McBride.

Whatever it was, I read it decades ago.  Maybe someone sent that story
back through time?

Also, a friend of mine described Forward's _Dragon's Egg_ to me in the
'70s.  It wasn't written until the '80s.
-- 
Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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