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| Started by | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-03-26 11:09 +1300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 231 — 20 participants |
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Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 09:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 12:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> - 2025-03-21 15:00 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-21 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 16:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 23:53 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-21 20:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:29 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 20:14 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:54 -0500
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 09:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 14:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 17:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 15:52 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 20:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-21 16:47 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 13:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 12:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 15:56 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:27 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 17:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 19:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 08:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 12:21 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:35 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:41 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 21:05 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:22 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 17:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 22:34 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 13:39 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 10:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:38 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 01:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:16 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:24 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:48 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 11:51 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-10 10:07 +1200
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:24 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 15:39 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:58 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 22:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 16:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 20:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-24 09:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-24 20:10 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 18:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:51 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:13 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:15 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:22 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:36 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:32 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 18:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 16:55 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 17:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:21 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 23:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 02:50 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 16:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-04-05 20:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 07:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 08:07 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 12:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-07 08:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 15:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 01:26 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπJenπππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ Dershmendenderer ππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπΆη¬πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-06 03:18 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 03:35 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 04:31 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 03:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:01 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:08 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 05:37 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:45 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 23:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:52 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:59 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:28 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 04:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 17:24 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 18:03 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-27 10:05 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 17:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-26 19:05 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 02:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 03:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 11:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:44 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 18:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 22:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 07:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 02:08 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 22:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 18:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:43 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 08:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 14:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 15:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:09 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 20:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 00:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:25 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:01 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:05 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:47 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:35 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:04 -0400
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Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:53 +0000
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 21:53 -0400 |
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| In reply to | #194027 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> I'm a fairly accomplished computer user, you [pothead] aren't >> better than me, you aren't so great. You're just a leftover from >> times past, which is why you make such idiotic political statements. >> You're an emotional thinker. > >So it is "fairly accomplished"... > >...or 'I'm beyond a "power user".' I stand by what I've claimed. I am a fairly masterful user of computers. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 22:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vs5cs2$1h3sr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194028 |
On 2025-03-27 18:53, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> I'm a fairly accomplished computer user, you [pothead] aren't >>> better than me, you aren't so great. You're just a leftover from >>> times past, which is why you make such idiotic political statements. >>> You're an emotional thinker. >> >> So it is "fairly accomplished"... >> >> ...or 'I'm beyond a "power user".' > > > I stand by what I've claimed. I am a fairly masterful user of > computers. > "fairly masterful" is a far cry from "beyond a power user".
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 01:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3qdcujh13hjm94prtb78pjtl7a613p7n82@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194031 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> I'm a fairly accomplished computer user, you [pothead] aren't >>>> better than me, you aren't so great. You're just a leftover from >>>> times past, which is why you make such idiotic political statements. >>>> You're an emotional thinker. >>> >>> So it is "fairly accomplished"... >>> >>> ...or 'I'm beyond a "power user".' >> >> I stand by what I've claimed. I am a fairly masterful user of >> computers. > >"fairly masterful" is a far cry from "beyond a power user". 'K ... -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 07:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs5kci$299p9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194028 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> I'm a fairly accomplished computer user, you [pothead] aren't >>> better than me, you aren't so great. You're just a leftover from >>> times past, which is why you make such idiotic political statements. >>> You're an emotional thinker. >> >> So it is "fairly accomplished"... >> >> ...or 'I'm beyond a "power user".' > > > I stand by what I've claimed. I am a fairly masterful user of > computers. That's literally not standing by what you've claimed. You're simply rowing back your unsubstantiated claims of prowess. Well done for the humility.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 02:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs50ba$1jm54$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194026 |
On 2025-03-28, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >>On 2025-03-27, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>> >>>>Realistically, Joel would be fine using a Celeron with no more than 8GB >>>>of RAM. >>> >>> Ridiculous, that would function more or less, but not very *well*. >>> >>Some people should not be allowed anywhere near a computer. >>You are one of them. > > > That's just spew, I'm a fairly accomplished computer user, you aren't > better than me, you aren't so great. You're just a leftover from > times past, which is why you make such idiotic political statements. > You're an emotional thinker. > Sugar, I was using computers before you were able to poop in your diaper. I started out feeding punched cards into an IBM 3505/3525 card reader/punch. You consider yourself an accomplished computer user? Like snit you have no clue. -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 22:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ag1cujltldqvanvj765gg6hso19j8d8kjm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194029 |
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >On 2025-03-28, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >>>On 2025-03-27, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Realistically, Joel would be fine using a Celeron with no more than 8GB >>>>>of RAM. >>>> >>>> Ridiculous, that would function more or less, but not very *well*. >>>> >>>Some people should not be allowed anywhere near a computer. >>>You are one of them. >> >> That's just spew, I'm a fairly accomplished computer user, you aren't >> better than me, you aren't so great. You're just a leftover from >> times past, which is why you make such idiotic political statements. >> You're an emotional thinker. >> >Sugar, I was using computers before you were able to poop in your diaper. >I started out feeding punched cards into an IBM 3505/3525 card reader/punch. > >You consider yourself an accomplished computer user? >Like snit you have no clue. I would absolutely compete with you, I'm perhaps younger but I'm not that young, I have a long history with computer use. You're not better than me. You're just a relic, in truth. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 12:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4qtaujdqobro4ic6p7ttqb5at9f5vv6jk5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194005 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> 32 >>>> GB is about right, for how I use a PC. >>> >>> I have a mac with 32GB - not my choice - and use much more resource >>> demanding apps than you which I almost never use all of it. >> >> You have concluded this all from reading my Usenet posts, you must be >> psychic, heh. > >Nope. You've given enough info to confirm that you're not a power user so a >basic spec machine will be fine for your *needs*. Whether you want more is >up to you. You're a fucking moron, I'm beyond a "power user". You just ASSume shit, about me and my computer. And wrongly. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 18:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs44d0$qq8d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194008 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> 32 >>>>> GB is about right, for how I use a PC. >>>> >>>> I have a mac with 32GB - not my choice - and use much more resource >>>> demanding apps than you which I almost never use all of it. >>> >>> You have concluded this all from reading my Usenet posts, you must be >>> psychic, heh. >> >> Nope. You've given enough info to confirm that you're not a power user so a >> basic spec machine will be fine for your *needs*. Whether you want more is >> up to you. > > > You're a fucking moron, I'm beyond a "power user". You just ASSume > shit, about me and my computer. And wrongly. Am assuming nothing. Just going by your "internet presence" list of apps. lol.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 00:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vs4rat$1f84f$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194008 |
On 2025-03-27, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> 32 >>>>> GB is about right, for how I use a PC. >>>> >>>> I have a mac with 32GB - not my choice - and use much more resource >>>> demanding apps than you which I almost never use all of it. >>> >>> You have concluded this all from reading my Usenet posts, you must be >>> psychic, heh. >> >>Nope. You've given enough info to confirm that you're not a power user so a >>basic spec machine will be fine for your *needs*. Whether you want more is >>up to you. > > > You're a fucking moron, I'm beyond a "power user". You just ASSume > shit, about me and my computer. And wrongly. > You can't be serious Joel. You have flip flopped between Windows and Linux for years. You screwed up your last PC build. You claimed that Microsoft had somehow infected your computer so it could not be registered. You are a total incompetent just like your motel room fruitcake buddy snit Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona. BTW where is that idiot snit? Is he in jail again for spousal abuse? -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-27 21:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fitbuj57poqevgs2it5mqm120o56ungesg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #194023 |
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote: >> I'm beyond a "power user". You just ASSume >> shit, about me and my computer. And wrongly. > >You can't be serious Joel. >You have flip flopped between Windows and Linux for years. Not exactly, no. I switched to Linux in 2019 because Win10 was in beta-test mode. I used Windows on the new computer because it was so state-of-the-art at first, but I've loved switching it to Linux. >You screwed up your last PC build. Not significantly. >You claimed that Microsoft had somehow infected your computer so it could not >be registered. I made an error and have admitted it was incorrect and humiliating. >You are a total incompetent just like your motel room fruitcake buddy snit Michael >Glasser of Prescott Arizona. > >BTW where is that idiot snit? >Is he in jail again for spousal abuse? Take meds. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-28 08:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <YzwFP.1474689$_N6e.1228836@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #194023 |
On 2025-03-27 20:43, pothead wrote: > On 2025-03-27, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> 32 >>>>>> GB is about right, for how I use a PC. >>>>> >>>>> I have a mac with 32GB - not my choice - and use much more resource >>>>> demanding apps than you which I almost never use all of it. >>>> >>>> You have concluded this all from reading my Usenet posts, you must be >>>> psychic, heh. >>> >>> Nope. You've given enough info to confirm that you're not a power user so a >>> basic spec machine will be fine for your *needs*. Whether you want more is >>> up to you. >> >> >> You're a fucking moron, I'm beyond a "power user". You just ASSume >> shit, about me and my computer. And wrongly. >> > > You can't be serious Joel. > You have flip flopped between Windows and Linux for years. > You screwed up your last PC build. > You claimed that Microsoft had somehow infected your computer so it could not > be registered. > > You are a total incompetent just like your motel room fruitcake buddy snit Michael > Glasser of Prescott Arizona. > > BTW where is that idiot snit? > Is he in jail again for spousal abuse? Please don't give him the impression that we miss him. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 14:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <H1DEP.256590$D_V4.199143@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #193964 |
On 2025-03-25 14:48, Chris wrote: > Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>>> >>>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>>> >>>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>>> >>>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>>> resources I've provided my system. >>> >>> Not at all. It just means the OS is being efficient and using the fastest >>> local storage available to it as much as possible. RAM is mostly used for >>> caches. >>> >>> If you were brave enough to show your memory usage you'd see it for >>> yourself. >> >> >> I have been monitoring it for months, I know how it goes. I have >> reached the point of the OS using swap, when main RAM and cache >> saturated the 32 GB. > > That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. Whether he needs it or not, 32GB is going to be a minimum before we know it. I imagine that people in 1995 were telling others that they didn't *need* 16MB too. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 15:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ctv5ujhv047vhsar1r444j1543n25md1gh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193968 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >On 2025-03-25 14:48, Chris wrote: >> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar: https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So nothing a Mac Mini with a base configuration couldn't easily handle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Incorrect, I use beyond 16 GB RAM and even puke out a little over 32 >>>>>>> at times having these tiny uses of swap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Funny you won't show it, huh? >>>>> >>>>> I'm including the use of cache in overall RAM use, the use of swap >>>>> when all 32 GB is used up to demonstrate that I really need the >>>>> resources I've provided my system. >>>> >>>> Not at all. It just means the OS is being efficient and using the fastest >>>> local storage available to it as much as possible. RAM is mostly used for >>>> caches. >>>> >>>> If you were brave enough to show your memory usage you'd see it for >>>> yourself. >>> >>> I have been monitoring it for months, I know how it goes. I have >>> reached the point of the OS using swap, when main RAM and cache >>> saturated the 32 GB. >> >> That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. > >Whether he needs it or not, 32GB is going to be a minimum before we know >it. I imagine that people in 1995 were telling others that they didn't >*need* 16MB too. My motherboard has four RAM slots. I used two of them, initially, to have 16 GB, so adding another 16 seems rather an obvious thing, the prices had declined a lot, I had nothing to lose. The notion that I could've added less than another 16 is weird, having two pair of the 8 GB sticks gives me a nice round 32 GB, enough for almost anyone these days, and enough for me right now. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-26 02:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m4h5v8F4mfhU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #193968 |
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 14:58:47 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > Whether he needs it or not, 32GB is going to be a minimum before we know > it. I imagine that people in 1995 were telling others that they didn't > *need* 16MB too. I've burned through 16GB on Windows boxes. Admittedly 'ng start' is a hog of the first water. Running the published app with nginx was much less memory intensive.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 20:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <kznDP.997256$eNx6.480775@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #193791 |
On 2025-03-21 3:40 p.m., Alan wrote: > On 2025-03-21 09:29, Joel wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> A Mac mini would be $1400.Β What I could build for that is >>>>>>>> unbelievable.Β Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does >>>>>>>> OK.Β I >>>>>>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost >>>>>>> that much? >>>>>> >>>>>> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >>>>>> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >>>>>> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but that is completely dodging the question. >>>> >>>> OK, let me explain, the device would need to have Windows 11 running >>>> in a VM, and mind you that isn't a complaint because remaining with >>>> x86 just for Wine wouldn't make sense, Apple was smart to dump >>>> IntelAMD.Β It's convenient that I can operate this app under Wine, >>>> with Linux and x86 hardware, but in the future I would love to see >>>> Linux for ARM on a new device. >>> >>> As was already explained to you, that's false. >>> >>> WiNE is available to run ARM Windows apps on the Mac. >>> >>>> To address your question, directly, I upped the specs to give me 32 GB >>>> RAM and such.Β That which would give me what's needed to make macOS >>>> shine as a driver OS. >>> But since that proceeded from a false assumption... >> >> >> I would as it turns out be fine using Wine under macOS, you were right >> about that part of it, but it doesn't change the desired specs of my >> theoretical Mac mini, they just go from "pretty good" to "really >> good". > And I ask again: > > What actual task makes you need such an extreme machine? And I answer again: drawing penises next to the mouths of celebrities on photos. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 00:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xxxxxx-830806.00002125032025@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #193744 |
In article <uorjtj1svg4iel6a1il22vrqbe394idovc@4ax.com>, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is > unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I > think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. Yes, Apple costs more than Dell. And BMWs cost more than Chevys. And steak costs more than chicken. What is your point? But what is the alleged "sacrifice of control"? What does that even mean? My Macs are somehow "out of control"?
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 00:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <cna4uj9rqu12nhgg4r74cne6jo0uacgis2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193932 |
Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: >> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. > >Yes, Apple costs more than Dell. And BMWs cost more than Chevys. And >steak costs more than chicken. > >What is your point? It just seems stupid, I'm intelligent enough to handle Linux, why would I screw around with Apple? >But what is the alleged "sacrifice of control"? What does that even >mean? My Macs are somehow "out of control"? More on the hardware side, the Mac mini is a pretty nifty solution to the "regular desktop" demand for an Apple device, and I could use one, but it nevertheless lacks the expandability of my real tower desktop system. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 21:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrta9v$2br2p$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193934 |
On 2025-03-24 21:06, Joel wrote: > Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: > >>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >> >> Yes, Apple costs more than Dell. And BMWs cost more than Chevys. And >> steak costs more than chicken. >> >> What is your point? > > > It just seems stupid, I'm intelligent enough to handle Linux, why > would I screw around with Apple? I was MORE than "intelligent enough" to handle the Kent engine in a Formula F (Ford)... ...but I had better things to do... ...so I now own a Formula F HONDA that requires far less "handling". > > >> But what is the alleged "sacrifice of control"? What does that even >> mean? My Macs are somehow "out of control"? > > > More on the hardware side, the Mac mini is a pretty nifty solution to > the "regular desktop" demand for an Apple device, and I could use one, > but it nevertheless lacks the expandability of my real tower desktop > system. Have you actually expanded your "real" tower desktop?
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 00:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lrb4ujt63arela4pehb0fu27gk9ntij55l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193936 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> [The Mac mini] lacks the expandability of my real tower desktop >> system. >Have you actually expanded your "real" tower desktop? Initially, it had CPU video, 16 GB RAM, WiFi integrated in the motherboard, and a single 1 TB SSD. Now, NVIDIA video, 32 GB RAM, upgraded PCI-e WiFi, and a second 512 GB SSD. Or, in other words, I've done spectacular things for little money. Good luck with your Apple addiction. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 10:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xxxxxx-2F9CDD.10135425032025@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #193934 |
In article <cna4uj9rqu12nhgg4r74cne6jo0uacgis2@4ax.com>, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: > > >> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is > >> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I > >> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. > > > >Yes, Apple costs more than Dell. And BMWs cost more than Chevys. And > >steak costs more than chicken. > > > >What is your point? > > > It just seems stupid, I'm intelligent enough to handle Linux, why > would I screw around with Apple? I can "handle Linux" too. I just no longer want to waste my time on that. I have better things to do with my time. Because in the long run, money is easier to accumulate than time. For all of us. > >But what is the alleged "sacrifice of control"? What does that even > >mean? My Macs are somehow "out of control"? > > > More on the hardware side, the Mac mini is a pretty nifty solution to > the "regular desktop" demand for an Apple device, and I could use one, > but it nevertheless lacks the expandability of my real tower desktop > system. Ah yes. The old "expandability" thing. Yeah, that used to be important to me too. But I no longer care about that. I just buy what I need. If I need more later, then I buy a new one and sell the old one. Just like we do with cars, microwave ovens, TVs, phones and every other consumer product on the planet. You can't "expand" any of those. So why worry about "expanding" something as common as a modern computer that costs less than $700? Back in the days when $1,500 got you 8K of RAM (yes K), no hard drive (hard drives alone were once $5,000 for 10 MB. Yes Megabytes), no green screen monitor (that was another $500), one 5" floppy drive and no software except maybe a primitive DOS and a BASIC interpreter, expandability was very important. You had to protect your initial investment. And that was 1980 dollars. That's like spending $6,000 today on a computer. Or $8,000 including a monitor and some software. Or $28,000 including that 10MB hard drive.
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