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| Started by | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-03-26 11:09 +1300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 231 — 20 participants |
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Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 09:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 12:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> - 2025-03-21 15:00 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-21 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 16:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 23:53 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-21 20:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:29 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 20:14 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:54 -0500
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 09:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 14:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 17:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 15:52 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 20:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-21 16:47 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 13:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 12:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 15:56 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:27 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 17:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 19:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 08:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 12:21 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:35 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:41 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 21:05 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:22 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 17:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 22:34 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 13:39 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 10:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:38 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 01:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:16 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:24 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:48 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 11:51 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-10 10:07 +1200
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:24 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 15:39 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:58 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 22:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 16:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 20:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-24 09:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-24 20:10 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 18:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:51 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:13 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:15 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:22 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:36 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:32 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 18:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 16:55 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 17:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:21 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 23:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 02:50 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 16:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-04-05 20:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 07:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 08:07 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 12:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-07 08:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 15:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 01:26 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπJenπππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ Dershmendenderer ππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπΆη¬πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-06 03:18 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 03:35 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 04:31 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 03:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:01 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:08 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 05:37 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:45 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 23:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:52 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:59 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:28 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 04:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 17:24 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 18:03 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-27 10:05 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 17:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-26 19:05 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 02:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 03:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 11:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:44 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 18:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 22:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 07:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 02:08 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 22:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 18:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:43 +0000
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1r9ptuo.6zis5d1v7ecznN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #193877 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-03-24 09:39, Sn!pe wrote: > > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > > > > [I wrote] > >>> I could give you my entire PC history from MS DOS 2.4 in 1984 via 'Doze > >>> 3.0 to NT4, then Mandrake Linux for several years before I saw the > >>> light, put away my screwdrivers and switched to macOS 10.3 "Panther". > >>> I've stuck with Macs ever since; they just *work*, you know? > >>> > >>> I could go on but it would be even boring than the above. > >>> > >> > >> I recall having a Mac running X.1.5 and then x.2 at a time when decent > >> browsers for that operating system didn't exist. It was Internet > >> Explorer or some independent browser whose name I can't remember. > >> Eventually, Apple released Safari and made things a little better. I > >> don't believe that even Firefox was around at the time. This was > >> definitely a period when the Mac didn't "just work." > >> > > > > I can't speak to that, I began with Macs at OS X 10.3 "Panther". > > I had no difficulties with that at all. > > > > I suppose you might equate Mac OS X 10.1 and 10.2 with > > Windoze 1 and 2. I imagine that you will remember what > > early 'Doze was like. . . > > > > What was early Linux like? > > I started with 10.1.5, so I couldn't really tell you if earlier versions > were as slow as people claimed. However, on the machine I used, a g3 > 600MHz iBook, MacOS 9.2.2 was definitely a lot more fun to use than OS > X. It was too bad that it wasn't getting updates anymore. I just recall > struggling to find a browser which supported all of what most websites > used whether it was Java or some other technology. It was truly > miserable until Safari came out. I don't recall whether Firefox came out > before or after, but I was definitely not aware of its existence until I > moved back to PCs later. > > As for early Linux, I can only tell you what it was like when I > installed Slackware through floppies at the very beginning. I only had > an old IBM PS/1 monitor to use it, so I couldn't get into the GUI at all > since I didn't know the vertical or horizontal refresh rates for that > piece of crap. When I went back to Linux around 1998, things were much > better but there was no built-in PPPoE software to connect to my ISP at > the time. If you didn't happen to have rp-pppoe lying around on a > floppy, you were screwed. I also recall that I found KDE a lot better > than the rest of the GUIs at the time, but I still found it fairly > clunky. Windows 95/98 wasn't great, but it was at least better than what > Linux was offering for environments. I mostly ignored Linux after that > since Windows 2000 and XP were stellar, though I vowed to only use Linux > once the first Ubuntu released. It was definitely better than every > other Linux available at the time, but it still didn't feel like a > complete replacement for Windows. > > I imagine that you don't really care about the history I just wrote > about above, but it felt good to write about it. My biggest memory was > how open-source, AbiWord to be exact, saved my ass when I needed > something to write a university paper. > It was good to read about it, too. It isn't as though I have anything urgent scheduled for today... Anyway, I'm not here as an advocate for Apple; if it wasn't for laughing boy being so haughty and superior about me using legacy software, I probably wouldn't have posted. Whatever, it's filled a few idle moments so it's all good. -- ^Γ^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 17:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8ek3uj9qsor5kkh2creq5o4nfpehmt60tp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193872 |
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote: >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote: >> >> >>On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>A Linux user would need additional accolades to be high-and-mighty. >> >> >>>>I'm only 5'10" but I'm somewhat strong. >> >> >>>>Tough to be everything at once. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Sn!pe gives me no reason to believe she uses the command line. >> > >> >Please! Upon what grounds do you impute my sex, you person of >> >distinctly ambiguous gender? That is completely irrelevant, merely >> >gratuitously offensive. >> >> I thought I remembered you being female, I admit I don't know quite >> where that's from. > >I was going to leave this but, glutton for punishment that i am: >misgendering is considered unforgiveable among some sections >of society. It seems that some of those think it's permissible. It wasn't my intent. >> >In my strictly personal view: you, Mr "Internet Presence" are plainly >> >and simply a risible poseur. You are a habitual hijacker of technical >> >threads in a technical newsgroup for self-aggrandisement and promotion >> >of your own alternative sexual practices. You have a greatly overblown, >> >hubristic, opinion of your own worth and you're downright pompous. >> > >> >Apart from that, you're a jolly fine fellow, well done. >> > >> >I've said my piece, now please feel free to have the last word. >> >> It's Usenet, heh. > >Yes, and you're a philistine who neither cares nor bothers to treat >Usenet with respect. Not really, I just don't go out of my way to be civil, it's a public forum, people want to be entertained. > Please note: I haven't stooped to calling you a >'clueless newbie' because that would be offensive. And not correct, more to the point. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 23:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1r9q1xj.1503ydl6d94gvN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #193887 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: [...] > >> It's Usenet, heh. > > > >Yes, and you're a philistine who neither cares > >nor bothers to treat Usenet with respect. > > > > Not really, I just don't go out of my way to be civil, > it's a public forum, people want to be entertained. > [...] You're a buffoon, playing the fool. I say again, Mr "Internet presence": like scabies, you're really irritating and difficult to get rid of. -- ^Γ^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <33r3ujleh1f7f86i8jta670g879ooctifh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193890 |
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote: >> >> It's Usenet, heh. >> > >> >Yes, and you're a philistine who neither cares >> >nor bothers to treat Usenet with respect. >> >> Not really, I just don't go out of my way to be civil, >> it's a public forum, people want to be entertained. > >You're a buffoon, playing the fool. > >I say again, Mr "Internet presence": like scabies, >you're really irritating and difficult to get rid of. I say that's what Mac users are. They have a computer that, while overpriced, has Unix in it, but most of them use the goofy GUI bullshit. It's the AOL of OSes. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 14:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrsjjm$1l5lu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193855 |
On 2025-03-23 11:54, Joel wrote: > Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He's [JWC is] more like scabies: really irritating and difficult to get rid of. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, Mac user. >>>>>> >>>>>> You might have as well said "air breather". >>>>>> If you need assistance with insults, I can help. >>>>>> Can and will aren't equal. >>>>>> I think your nym as "Buffy" would be more insightful. >>>>> >>>>> The point is, Sn!pe can't talk high-and-mighty about me, a Linux user. >>>> >>>> A Linux user would need additional accolades to be high-and-mighty. >>>> I'm only 5'10" but I'm somewhat strong. >>>> Tough to be everything at once. >>> >>> Sn!pe gives me no reason to believe she uses the command line. >> >> I used vim to type this. >> It's up to the "user" to "use" what works for them. >> That's real equality. > > > I'm using Forte Agent under Wine, but you see, that's for Usenet, Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 18:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1oo3ujpeevs6eue47db5vvb28pmvuman25@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193882 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, that's for Usenet, > >Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. Nope. There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that are superb. I like Agent because I used it for years and years before using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan? -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1r9q37y.1k10l3w1ard4kkN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #193888 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > > >> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, > >> that's for Usenet, > > > >Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. > > > > Nope. There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that > are superb. I like Agent because I used it for years and years before > using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something > equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How > is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan? > Legacy Windows software? "Just tacky", heh. -- ^Γ^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <f5r3uj12btrnfbl0eekmjmrio659si0uf8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193892 |
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote: >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >> >> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, >> >> that's for Usenet, >> > >> >Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. >> >> Nope. There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that >> are superb. I like Agent because I used it for years and years before >> using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something >> equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How >> is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan? > >Legacy Windows software? "Just tacky", heh. I'm using the current, still being sold version of Forte Agent. It's not legacy, it's just complete, no need to keep updating it. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrsucm$1u3ji$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193888 |
On 2025-03-24 15:57, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, that's for Usenet, >> >> Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. > > > Nope. Yup. > There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that > are superb. And yet you choose not to use them. > I like Agent because I used it for years and years before > using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something > equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How > is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan It's running it under emulation. You're using computer resources to emulate Windows... ...and you can't see how that relates to your need to spend more on RAM, etc.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 00:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrsv64$241pg$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193896 |
On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2025-03-24 15:57, Joel wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, that's for Usenet, >>> >>> Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. >> >> >> Nope. > > Yup. > >> There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that >> are superb. > > And yet you choose not to use them. > >> I like Agent because I used it for years and years before >> using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something >> equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How >> is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan > > It's running it under emulation. > > You're using computer resources to emulate Windows... > > ...and you can't see how that relates to your need to spend more on RAM, > etc. At one time Agent was a good program but it's a fossil these days. The spell checker is way behind the times. The configuration in the latest version is a nightmare and spread out all over the place and basic items are not easy to find. Why run a very outdated program when Linux offers better alternatives? Try PAN or Thunderbird. p.s I get it if the OP has a zillion messages saved and wants access to them. -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 18:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt075$1u3up$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193904 |
On 2025-03-24 17:59, pothead wrote: > On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-24 15:57, Joel wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, that's for Usenet, >>>> >>>> Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. >>> >>> >>> Nope. >> >> Yup. >> >>> There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that >>> are superb. >> >> And yet you choose not to use them. >> >>> I like Agent because I used it for years and years before >>> using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something >>> equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How >>> is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan >> >> It's running it under emulation. >> >> You're using computer resources to emulate Windows... >> >> ...and you can't see how that relates to your need to spend more on RAM, >> etc. > > At one time Agent was a good program but it's a fossil these days. > The spell checker is way behind the times. > The configuration in the latest version is a nightmare and spread out all over > the place and basic items are not easy to find. > > Why run a very outdated program when Linux offers better alternatives? > Try PAN or Thunderbird. > > p.s I get it if the OP has a zillion messages saved and wants access to them. > Migrating such data CAN be a pain...
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 01:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrt100$25rtr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193910 |
On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2025-03-24 17:59, pothead wrote: >> On 2025-03-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> On 2025-03-24 15:57, Joel wrote: >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I'm using Forte Agent under Wine [in Linux], but you see, that's for Usenet, >>>>> >>>>> Which is basically an admission that Linux isn't up to the job. >>>> >>>> >>>> Nope. >>> >>> Yup. >>> >>>> There are GUI newsreaders for Linux, but also console ones that >>>> are superb. >>> >>> And yet you choose not to use them. >>> >>>> I like Agent because I used it for years and years before >>>> using Linux all the time. It doesn't imply Linux can't run something >>>> equally good, in fact it's running Agent itself thanks to Wine. How >>>> is that "not up to the job", pray tell, Alan >>> >>> It's running it under emulation. >>> >>> You're using computer resources to emulate Windows... >>> >>> ...and you can't see how that relates to your need to spend more on RAM, >>> etc. >> >> At one time Agent was a good program but it's a fossil these days. >> The spell checker is way behind the times. >> The configuration in the latest version is a nightmare and spread out all over >> the place and basic items are not easy to find. >> >> Why run a very outdated program when Linux offers better alternatives? >> Try PAN or Thunderbird. >> >> p.s I get it if the OP has a zillion messages saved and wants access to them. >> > > Migrating such data CAN be a pain... And I fully understand that. -- pothead Liberalism Is A Mental Disease Treat it accordingly <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 21:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <cc34uj5g11jmo3ldvlkt1mjpc9g8vv8h92@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193910 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >On 2025-03-24 17:59, pothead wrote: >> >> At one time Agent was a good program but it's a fossil these days. >> The spell checker is way behind the times. >> The configuration in the latest version is a nightmare and spread out all over >> the place and basic items are not easy to find. >> >> Why run a very outdated program when Linux offers better alternatives? >> Try PAN or Thunderbird. >> >> p.s I get it if the OP has a zillion messages saved and wants access to them. > >Migrating such data CAN be a pain... I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt5b2$1u3ji$15@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193914 |
On 2025-03-24 18:58, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-24 17:59, pothead wrote: >>> >>> At one time Agent was a good program but it's a fossil these days. >>> The spell checker is way behind the times. >>> The configuration in the latest version is a nightmare and spread out all over >>> the place and basic items are not easy to find. >>> >>> Why run a very outdated program when Linux offers better alternatives? >>> Try PAN or Thunderbird. >>> >>> p.s I get it if the OP has a zillion messages saved and wants access to them. >> >> Migrating such data CAN be a pain... > > > I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use > another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for > all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. > Right. Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 22:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vh64ujdvrfgm1gnl74ct512sr1vou45kvn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193919 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use >> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for >> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. > >Right. > >Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs. That's patently stupid. I could use something other than Agent. I am using Agent under Linux. Deal with that. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 20:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt77a$1u3up$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193920 |
On 2025-03-24 19:52, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use >>> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for >>> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. >> >> Right. >> >> Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs. > > > That's patently stupid. I could use something other than Agent. I am > using Agent under Linux. Deal with that. > No. You're using Agent in an emulator under Linux; costing you performance, when you claim that your needs for performance are so high.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 23:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0d84ujhcea3t4dhe72r2fm1jpvdum3vpgt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193923 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use >>>> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for >>>> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. >>> >>> Right. >>> >>> Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs. >> >> That's patently stupid. I could use something other than Agent. I am >> using Agent under Linux. Deal with that. > >No. You're using Agent in an emulator under Linux; Not exactly, no, it's not emulating anything, it's literally providing the answers to API calls as if it were really Winblows. > costing you >performance, when you claim that your needs for performance are so high. Not really, I have a great system. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 20:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt8il$2br2p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193925 |
On 2025-03-24 20:24, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use >>>>> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for >>>>> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. >>>> >>>> Right. >>>> >>>> Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs. >>> >>> That's patently stupid. I could use something other than Agent. I am >>> using Agent under Linux. Deal with that. >> >> No. You're using Agent in an emulator under Linux; > > > Not exactly, no, it's not emulating anything, it's literally providing > the answers to API calls as if it were really Winblows. Which is precisely what "emulation" means. A process makes an API call that would normally be made to the Windows OS... ...and WiNE emulates the response. > > >> costing you >> performance, when you claim that your needs for performance are so high. > > > Not really, I have a great system. So you say... ...but you need to use Windows applications to fulfill all your needs.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 23:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2k94ujl25qb3mvak34t0t6i1319p4dad78@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193927 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use >>>>>> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for >>>>>> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. >>>>> >>>>> Right. >>>>> >>>>> Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs. >>>> >>>> That's patently stupid. I could use something other than Agent. I am >>>> using Agent under Linux. Deal with that. >>> >>> No. You're using Agent in an emulator under Linux; >> >> Not exactly, no, it's not emulating anything, it's literally providing >> the answers to API calls as if it were really Winblows. > >Which is precisely what "emulation" means. > >A process makes an API call that would normally be made to the Windows OS... > >...and WiNE emulates the response. Nope. It translates it into something Linux or macOS understands. >>> costing you >>> performance, when you claim that your needs for performance are so high. >> >> Not really, I have a great system. >So you say... > >...but you need to use Windows applications to fulfill all your needs. I could run Windows 11, on this machine. It would simply be inferior to running Linux, and using Wine sparingly. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-24 20:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrt92s$2br2p$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193929 |
On 2025-03-24 20:45, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use >>>>>>> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for >>>>>>> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Right. >>>>>> >>>>>> Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs. >>>>> >>>>> That's patently stupid. I could use something other than Agent. I am >>>>> using Agent under Linux. Deal with that. >>>> >>>> No. You're using Agent in an emulator under Linux; >>> >>> Not exactly, no, it's not emulating anything, it's literally providing >>> the answers to API calls as if it were really Winblows. >> >> Which is precisely what "emulation" means. >> >> A process makes an API call that would normally be made to the Windows OS... >> >> ...and WiNE emulates the response. > > > Nope. It translates it into something Linux or macOS understands. That is what "emulation" means. > > >>>> costing you >>>> performance, when you claim that your needs for performance are so high. >>> >>> Not really, I have a great system. >> So you say... >> >> ...but you need to use Windows applications to fulfill all your needs. > > > I could run Windows 11, on this machine. It would simply be inferior > to running Linux, and using Wine sparingly. And yet you need Windows applications to make your computing experience whole...
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