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Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12

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  Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-21 04:21 +0000
    Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-23 07:36 -0500
    Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-24 02:19 +0000
      Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-24 03:06 +0000
        Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-02-23 19:29 -0800
    Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 07:29 +0000
      Just how DIM is Marion? Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-02-28 10:29 -0800

#193474 — Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12

iPhone 12
  vs
iPhone 16e
  
iPhone 12 Display:
  - 6.1" OLED w/ larger notch
  - 625 nits of brightness
 vs 
iPhone 16e Display:
  - 6.1" OLED w/ smaller notch
  - 800 nits of brightness
  
iPhone 12 Camera:
  - Wide: 12MP
  - Ultrawide: 12MP
 vs
iPhone 16e Camera:
  - Wide: 48MP
  - Ultrawide: N/A
  
iPhone 12 Processor:
  - Apple A14:
  - 6 core CPU
  - 4 core GPU
  - 16 core Neural Engine
 vs
iPhone 16e Processor:
  - Apple A18:
  - 6 core CPU
  - 4 core GPU
  - 16 core Neural Engine
  
iPhone 12 Charging:
  - Lightning up to 20W
  - MagSafe up to 15W
 vs
iPhone 16e Charging:
  - USB-C up to 20W
  - Qi charging up to 7.5W
  
iPhone 12 Apple Intelligence:
  - No support
 vs
iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
  - Fully supported
  
iPhone 12 Connectivity:
  - Wi-Fi 6
  - Bluetooth 5.0
  - Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
 vs
iPhone 16e Connectivity:
  - Wi-Fi 6
  - Bluetooth 5.3
  - Sub-6GHz 5G
  
iPhone 12 Battery:
  - 17 hours of claimed video playback
 vs
iPhone 16e Battery:
  - 26 hours of video playback
  
iPhone 12 Additional features:
  - Ring/mute switch
  - Emergency SOS
  - N/A
  - N/A
 vs
iPhone 16e Additional features:
  - Action Button
  - Emergency SOS via Satellite
  - Crash Detection
  - Photographic Styles

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#193514

> Marion wrote:
> iPhone 12
> vs
> iPhone 16e
> 
> iPhone 12 Display:
> - 6.1" OLED w/ larger notch
> - 625 nits of brightness
> vs
> iPhone 16e Display:
> - 6.1" OLED w/ smaller notch
> - 800 nits of brightness
> 
> iPhone 12 Camera:
> - Wide: 12MP
> - Ultrawide: 12MP
> vs
> iPhone 16e Camera:
> - Wide: 48MP
> - Ultrawide: N/A
> 
> iPhone 12 Processor:
> - Apple A14:
> - 6 core CPU
> - 4 core GPU
> - 16 core Neural Engine
> vs
> iPhone 16e Processor:
> - Apple A18:
> - 6 core CPU
> - 4 core GPU
> - 16 core Neural Engine
> 
> iPhone 12 Charging:
> - Lightning up to 20W
> - MagSafe up to 15W
> vs
> iPhone 16e Charging:
> - USB-C up to 20W
> - Qi charging up to 7.5W
> 
> iPhone 12 Apple Intelligence:
> - No support
> vs
> iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
> - Fully supported
> 
> iPhone 12 Connectivity:
> - Wi-Fi 6
> - Bluetooth 5.0
> - Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
> vs
> iPhone 16e Connectivity:
> - Wi-Fi 6
> - Bluetooth 5.3
> - Sub-6GHz 5G
> 
> iPhone 12 Battery:
> - 17 hours of claimed video playback
> vs
> iPhone 16e Battery:
> - 26 hours of video playback
> 
> iPhone 12 Additional features:
> - Ring/mute switch
> - Emergency SOS
> - N/A
> - N/A
> vs
> iPhone 16e Additional features:
> - Action Button
> - Emergency SOS via Satellite
> - Crash Detection
> - Photographic Styles


Thanks for the comparison. " 


This is a response to the post seen at:
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=684259343#684259343

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#193516

Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12,iphone-16e which is nicer and easier to read. ;)


Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> iPhone 12
>  vs
> iPhone 16e
>  
> iPhone 12 Display:
>  - 6.1" OLED w/ larger notch
>  - 625 nits of brightness
> vs 
> iPhone 16e Display:
>  - 6.1" OLED w/ smaller notch
>  - 800 nits of brightness
>  
> iPhone 12 Camera:
>  - Wide: 12MP
>  - Ultrawide: 12MP
> vs
> iPhone 16e Camera:
>  - Wide: 48MP
>  - Ultrawide: N/A
>  
> iPhone 12 Processor:
>  - Apple A14:
>  - 6 core CPU
>  - 4 core GPU
>  - 16 core Neural Engine
> vs
> iPhone 16e Processor:
>  - Apple A18:
>  - 6 core CPU
>  - 4 core GPU
>  - 16 core Neural Engine
>  
> iPhone 12 Charging:
>  - Lightning up to 20W
>  - MagSafe up to 15W
> vs
> iPhone 16e Charging:
>  - USB-C up to 20W
>  - Qi charging up to 7.5W
>  
> iPhone 12 Apple Intelligence:
>  - No support
> vs
> iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
>  - Fully supported
>  
> iPhone 12 Connectivity:
>  - Wi-Fi 6
>  - Bluetooth 5.0
>  - Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
> vs
> iPhone 16e Connectivity:
>  - Wi-Fi 6
>  - Bluetooth 5.3
>  - Sub-6GHz 5G
>  
> iPhone 12 Battery:
>  - 17 hours of claimed video playback
> vs
> iPhone 16e Battery:
>  - 26 hours of video playback
>  
> iPhone 12 Additional features:
>  - Ring/mute switch
>  - Emergency SOS
>  - N/A
>  - N/A
> vs
> iPhone 16e Additional features:
>  - Action Button
>  - Emergency SOS via Satellite
>  - Crash Detection
>  - Photographic Styles

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#193520

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 02:19:41 +0000, Ant wrote :


> Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12,iphone-16e which is nicer and easier to read. ;)

I wasn't aware of that comparison page, which I agree with Ant as being
quite nice.

I'm trying to find out what's good about the iPhone 16e where I've already
posted some articles which basically lambasted it as too little too much.

Here is another where I'll summarize the details for the team:
 <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/>
A18 chip & 48MP back camera & 12MP front & C1 modem
USB-C (instead of the old deprecated lightning standard nobody cared for)
$600 for 128GB with no chance in hell of modern expansion capability
6.1-inch OLED display with a notch & Face ID only
Action button instead of the mute switch
Wireless charging support & Crash detection
Messages via satellite, Emergency SOS via satellite, Find My via satellite

What's very interesting is that nospam & the Apple trolls claimed USB-C was 
  "not needed" &  "not wanted"
Every article claims that USB-C support is a feature (benefit).

Fancy that.
The Apple trolls were wrong.

How could it possibly be that USB-C is a "good thing" after all?

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#193524

On 2025-02-23 19:06, Marion wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 02:19:41 +0000, Ant wrote :
> 
> 
>> Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/? 
>> modelList=iphone-12,iphone-16e which is nicer and easier to read. ;)
> 
> I wasn't aware of that comparison page, which I agree with Ant as being
> quite nice.
> 
> I'm trying to find out what's good about the iPhone 16e where I've already
> posted some articles which basically lambasted it as too little too much.
> 
> Here is another where I'll summarize the details for the team:
> <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres- 
> everything-you-need-to-know/>
> A18 chip & 48MP back camera & 12MP front & C1 modem
> USB-C (instead of the old deprecated lightning standard nobody cared for)
> $600 for 128GB with no chance in hell of modern expansion capability
> 6.1-inch OLED display with a notch & Face ID only
> Action button instead of the mute switch
> Wireless charging support & Crash detection
> Messages via satellite, Emergency SOS via satellite, Find My via satellite
> 
> What's very interesting is that nospam & the Apple trolls claimed USB-C 
> was  "not needed" &  "not wanted"
> Every article claims that USB-C support is a feature (benefit).
> 
> Fancy that.
> The Apple trolls were wrong.
> 
> How could it possibly be that USB-C is a "good thing" after all?

Straw man.

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#193605

On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


> iPhone 12 Battery:
>   - 17 hours of claimed video playback
>  vs
> iPhone 16e Battery:
>   - 26 hours of video playback

Since we strive to *understand* Apple products, it behooves us to
understand what the facts are on the dismal Apple battery capacity.

For such an expensive phone, the iPhone 16e battery capacity is pathetic
 "iPhone 16e has a battery capacity of 3961 mAh"
 <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/27/iphone-16e-battery-comparison/>

Yet, the iPhone 12 has an even more pathetic battery capacity of 2,815 mAh.

No wonder Apple is no longer allowed to sell the iPhone 12 in the EU after
this summer due to the pitiful number of lifetime charge cycles before the
battery drops below 80% (which Apple must certify to sell in the EU).

As feeble as the iPhone 16 e battery capacity is, at least the iPhone 16e
battery has a 141% bigger capacity than the lame iPhone 12 battery had.

Note: My free $200 MSRP Galaxy A32-5G from 2021 has a 5 Amp Hour battery.

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#193610 — Just how DIM is Marion? Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 12

On 2025-02-27 23:29, Marion wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
> 
> 
>> iPhone 12 Battery:
>>   - 17 hours of claimed video playback
>>  vs
>> iPhone 16e Battery:
>>   - 26 hours of video playback
> 
> Since we strive to *understand* Apple products, it behooves us to
> understand what the facts are on the dismal Apple battery capacity.
> 
> For such an expensive phone, the iPhone 16e battery capacity is pathetic
> "iPhone 16e has a battery capacity of 3961 mAh"
> <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/27/iphone-16e-battery-comparison/>
> 
> Yet, the iPhone 12 has an even more pathetic battery capacity of 2,815 mAh.
> 
> No wonder Apple is no longer allowed to sell the iPhone 12 in the EU after
> this summer due to the pitiful number of lifetime charge cycles before the
> battery drops below 80% (which Apple must certify to sell in the EU).
> 
> As feeble as the iPhone 16 e battery capacity is, at least the iPhone 16e
> battery has a 141% bigger capacity than the lame iPhone 12 battery had.
> 
> Note: My free $200 MSRP Galaxy A32-5G from 2021 has a 5 Amp Hour battery.

Which is utterly irrelevant.

Available energy storage must be compared to power usage.

Anyone of at least average intelligence understands this.

It doesn't matter if my "bimmer" has a larger gas tank that my friend's 
Honda Civic...

...if the power usage of his engine allows him to travel further.

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