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Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control

Started byJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
First post2025-03-18 18:12 -0400
Last post2025-03-26 11:09 +1300
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  Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400
    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 09:14 -0700
      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 12:23 -0400
        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:44 -0400
      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:43 -0400
        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 19:50 +0000
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> - 2025-03-21 15:00 +0000
            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-21 19:59 +0000
            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 16:45 -0400
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:26 -0400
            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 23:53 +0000
              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:00 -0400
                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-21 20:27 -0400
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:45 +0000
                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:57 -0400
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:49 -0400
                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:29 -0700
                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:29 -0400
                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:59 -0400
                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 20:14 -0400
                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:29 -0400
                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:59 +0000
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:54 -0500
                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 09:22 +0000
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 14:26 -0700
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 17:58 -0400
            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 15:52 -0700
              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 20:48 -0400
                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:31 -0400
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-21 16:47 +0000
                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 13:00 -0400
              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:29 -0400
                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 12:40 -0700
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 15:56 -0400
                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:27 -0700
                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:36 -0400
                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 14:04 -0700
                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 17:52 -0400
                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 19:18 -0400
                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:23 -0400
                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 08:18 -0400
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 12:21 +0000
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:00 -0400
                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:06 +0000
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:17 -0400
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:22 +0000
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:35 -0400
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:41 +0000
                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:54 -0400
                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 21:05 +0000
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:22 -0700
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 17:31 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 22:34 +0000
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:53 -0400
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 13:39 +0000
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 10:48 -0400
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 19:59 +0000
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0400
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:36 -0400
                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:42 -0700
                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:57 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:38 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:59 +0000
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:17 -0700
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 01:30 +0000
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:58 -0400
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:52 -0400
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:16 -0700
                                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:24 -0400
                                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:40 -0700
                                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:45 -0400
                                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:48 -0700
                                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:02 -0400
                                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:10 -0700
                                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:26 -0400
                                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 11:51 -0700
                                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-10 10:07 +1200
                                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:16 -0400
                                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:48 +0000
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:08 -0400
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:14 -0700
                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:29 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:31 -0400
                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 12:20 -0400
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0400
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 15:39 -0400
                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:52 -0400
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:58 +0000
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:11 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 22:12 +0000
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 16:02 -0400
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:09 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 20:25 +0000
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:34 -0400
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:43 -0700
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-24 09:09 -0400
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-24 20:10 +0000
                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 18:33 +0000
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:51 -0400
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:26 -0400
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:33 +0000
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:44 -0700
                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:11 -0400
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:13 -0700
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:57 -0400
                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:54 -0400
                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:15 -0700
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:22 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:36 -0700
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:43 -0400
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:49 -0700
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:09 -0400
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:29 -0400
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:32 -0400
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:41 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 18:27 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 16:55 -0700
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:08 -0400
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 17:10 -0700
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:21 -0400
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 23:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 02:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 16:06 -0400
                                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:17 -0400
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-04-05 20:42 -0400
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 07:42 -0400
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 08:07 -0700
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:44 -0400
                                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 12:46 -0700
                                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:59 -0400
                                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:11 -0700
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-07 08:57 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 15:49 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:16 -0400
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 01:26 +0000
                                                            Re: πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ πŸŒˆπŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒˆJenπŸŒˆπŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒˆ Dershmendenderer πŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸΆη¬›πŸŒˆπŸ’πŸŒ»πŸŒΊπŸŒΉπŸŒ»πŸ’πŸŒ·πŸŒΊπŸŒˆ <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-04-06 03:18 +0000
                                                              Re: πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 03:35 +0000
                                                                Re: πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 04:31 +0000
                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 03:15 +0000
                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:01 +1300
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:08 +1300
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 05:37 +0000
                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:45 -0700
                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 23:33 -0400
                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:46 -0700
                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:52 +0000
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:59 -0700
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:48 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:28 -0400
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:43 -0400
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:48 -0400
                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:12 +0000
                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 04:20 -0400
                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:48 +0000
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 14:54 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 17:24 -0700
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:33 -0400
                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 18:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 21:19 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:36 -0400
                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-27 10:05 +1300
                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 17:43 -0400
                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-26 19:05 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:17 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 02:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:49 -0700
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 03:30 +0000
                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 11:57 -0400
                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:18 -0400
                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:41 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:20 -0400
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:20 -0400
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 18:26 -0700
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:53 -0400
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 22:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 07:50 +0000
                                                              Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 02:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 22:16 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:06 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 18:11 +0000
                                                        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:18 -0400
                                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 08:26 -0400
                                          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 14:58 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 15:13 -0400
                                            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:09 +0000
                  Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 20:33 -0400
    Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 00:00 -0400
      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:06 -0400
        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0700
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:25 -0400
        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:13 -0400
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:20 -0400
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:01 -0400
            Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:05 +0000
      Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:47 -0400
        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:35 -0400
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:41 -0400
          Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:04 -0400
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        Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:53 +0000
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#193865

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 16:11 -0400
Message-ID<8lq0ujtpqjkj6b695vlavs7e32e576m8mb@4ax.com>
In reply to#193862
Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote:

>> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
>> functions.
>
>workflows not involving "work" are just flows, any tampon will do.


I work extremely hard.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193871

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-23 22:12 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvu11qo.2t7.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#193865
On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
>>> functions.
>>
>>workflows not involving "work" are just flows, any tampon will do.
>
>
> I work extremely hard.

Extremely is subjective,and hard is quite sexually explicit, viewer
discretion is advised. I work soft, takes a different type of activity
to get hard.

I think you're a social media shit tosser, and professional moocher.

I think, no, know I'm right.

-- 
End Transmission

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#193863

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-23 16:02 -0400
Message-ID<vrppc8$345vf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193861
On 3/23/25 15:52, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are running, dude.  I'm an Internet presence.  Deal with it.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, don't buy it.  Show the RAM processes usage page, not the Dock,
>>>> for that claim.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, even if it was true, to go identify just what the workflow is
>>>> which actually needs to have 20+ diverse apps running concurrently.
>>>
>>> Do the math.
>>
>> I have.  That's precisely why I'm asking for what possible workflow
>> could require so many concurrent open Apps for one human to allegedly be
>> rapidly swapping between.
>>
>> Workflows are subject to the Laws of Diminishing Returns.  For any
>> modern system with fast storage (eg, NVMe), the pretense of a
>> productivity gains from leaving Apps resident in RAM has functionally
>> ended for the Pareto Principle 80% portion.
> 
> 
> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
> functions.

Since you don't really know what your workflow needs are, your 
productivity for doing it isn't a factor for you.

Get a PC with 8GB RAM .. it will suffice.


And make sure to run a pretty screen saver, since that's as much 
value-added as all of the rest of the things that you're pretending to do.


-hh

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#193864

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 16:09 -0400
Message-ID<4hq0ujtavn5ltkjh5c6sk2hjq75dmd0u6a@4ax.com>
In reply to#193863
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>>>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are running, dude.  I'm an Internet presence.  Deal with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, don't buy it.  Show the RAM processes usage page, not the Dock,
>>>>> for that claim.
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, even if it was true, to go identify just what the workflow is
>>>>> which actually needs to have 20+ diverse apps running concurrently.
>>>>
>>>> Do the math.
>>>
>>> I have.  That's precisely why I'm asking for what possible workflow
>>> could require so many concurrent open Apps for one human to allegedly be
>>> rapidly swapping between.
>>>
>>> Workflows are subject to the Laws of Diminishing Returns.  For any
>>> modern system with fast storage (eg, NVMe), the pretense of a
>>> productivity gains from leaving Apps resident in RAM has functionally
>>> ended for the Pareto Principle 80% portion.
>> 
>> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
>> functions.
>
>Since you don't really know what your workflow needs are, your 
>productivity for doing it isn't a factor for you.


I have perfect productivity, actually.


>Get a PC with 8GB RAM .. it will suffice.
>
>
>And make sure to run a pretty screen saver, since that's as much 
>value-added as all of the rest of the things that you're pretending to do.


I know what works for me - you can spew whatever nonsense you want,
but it's an "OK boomer" thing.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193866

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 20:25 +0000
Message-ID<vrpqon$35ng7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193864
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> 
>>> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
>>> functions.

So yeah, mostly idling. 

>> Since you don't really know what your workflow needs are, your 
>> productivity for doing it isn't a factor for you.
> 
> 
> I have perfect productivity, actually.

Sure you do. 

> 
>> Get a PC with 8GB RAM .. it will suffice.
>> 
>> 
>> And make sure to run a pretty screen saver, since that's as much 
>> value-added as all of the rest of the things that you're pretending to do.
> 
> 
> I know what works for me 

And yet can only demonstrate it with a screenshot of your taskbar. No cpu
or ram usage history. 

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#193867

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 16:34 -0400
Message-ID<mpr0ujtre1bvmgrn56q8ojk9ir7ms10873@4ax.com>
In reply to#193866
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
>>>> functions.
>
>So yeah, mostly idling. 


Incorrect.  But a lot of real-time chatting, admittedly, some
important, some not.


>>> Since you don't really know what your workflow needs are, your 
>>> productivity for doing it isn't a factor for you.
>> 
>> I have perfect productivity, actually.
>
>Sure you do. 


I am an author.


>>> Get a PC with 8GB RAM .. it will suffice.
>>> 
>>> And make sure to run a pretty screen saver, since that's as much 
>>> value-added as all of the rest of the things that you're pretending to do.
>> 
>> I know what works for me 
>
>And yet can only demonstrate it with a screenshot of your taskbar. No cpu
>or ram usage history. 


I have surpassed, slightly, the 32 GB RAM I have, in overall memory
use including cache, leading to minor swap use.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193883

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-03-24 14:43 -0700
Message-ID<vrsjln$1l5lu$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193861
On 2025-03-23 12:52, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are running, dude.  I'm an Internet presence.  Deal with it.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, don't buy it.  Show the RAM processes usage page, not the Dock,
>>>> for that claim.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, even if it was true, to go identify just what the workflow is
>>>> which actually needs to have 20+ diverse apps running concurrently.
>>>
>>> Do the math.
>>
>> I have.  That's precisely why I'm asking for what possible workflow
>> could require so many concurrent open Apps for one human to allegedly be
>> rapidly swapping between.
>>
>> Workflows are subject to the Laws of Diminishing Returns.  For any
>> modern system with fast storage (eg, NVMe), the pretense of a
>> productivity gains from leaving Apps resident in RAM has functionally
>> ended for the Pareto Principle 80% portion.
> 
> 
> My "workflow" is just revolving through different apps for various
> functions.
> 

I see a lot of dodging of the questions...

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#193875

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-03-24 09:09 -0400
Message-ID<vrrlil$tfu8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193840
-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 3/22/25 19:23, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in support of needed apps and use].
>>>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use?
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>
>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>> 
>> 
>> They are running, dude.  I'm an Internet presence.  Deal with it.
>
> Sorry, don't buy it.  Show the RAM processes usage page, not the Dock, 
> for that claim.
>
> Similarly, even if it was true, to go identify just what the workflow is 
> which actually needs to have 20+ diverse apps running concurrently.

Audio/Video/MIDI production or tutorials....

... a couple or three software synthesizers
... DSP plugins
... A big-ass DAW like Ardour or a collection of audio or MIDI apps synched via
    JACK
... Video editors like Blender, KDENlive, DaVinci Resolve, Lightworks...
... OBS studio for recording tutorials along with webcam and various effects
    filters
... Non/New Session Manager to coordinate the setup

More:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZjxyszn44Q

    Is Linux Ready for Video Pros? A 2025 Deep Dive

He talks about a ton of Linux software I've never heard of.

-- 
	"So you don't have to, Cindy, but I was wondering if you might
want to go to someplace, you know, with me, sometime."
	"Well, I can think of a lot of worse things, David."
	"Friday, then?"
	"Why not, David, it might even be fun."
		-- Dating in Minnesota

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#193880

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-03-24 20:10 +0000
Message-ID<pan$2da6a$d8adaf6b$6b66c2b7$5a991f1@linux.rocks>
In reply to#193875
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:09:40 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> 
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZjxyszn44Q
> 
>     Is Linux Ready for Video Pros? A 2025 Deep Dive
> 

Great link, in principle.

I only watched the first 30 seconds of the vid when I realized
I was going to be viewing some moley talking head (obvious skin moles
on his cheek and above his lip) describing in 20 long minutes what
could be better described in print in 2 short minutes.

But I agree with the basic thesis.  GNU/Linux can handle pro
audio/video.

The only problem -- and its a biggie -- is that current A/V
practitioners are technically incompetent and thus forever
locked into commercial "do it all for you with a point and a click"
software.

  


-- 
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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#193850

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 18:33 +0000
Message-ID<vrpk5t$2v2e0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193824
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in
>>>>>>> support of needed apps and use].
>>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use?
>>> 
>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>> 
>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't 
>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
> 
> 
> They are running, dude.  

I can guarantee you that most will be idling or backgrounded by the OS.
Plus, that's nothing that a mid-range PC or base mac couldn't handle
easily. 

Come back when you have some real demanding computing requirements. 

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#193854

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 14:51 -0400
Message-ID<mrl0ujtuqdb4mg2tgd9n5aojemffs6is0r@4ax.com>
In reply to#193850
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in
>>>>>>>> support of needed apps and use].
>>>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use?
>>>> 
>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>> 
>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't 
>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>> 
>> They are running, dude.  
>
>I can guarantee you that most will be idling or backgrounded by the OS.
>Plus, that's nothing that a mid-range PC or base mac couldn't handle
>easily. 
>
>Come back when you have some real demanding computing requirements. 


ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193856

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-23 19:06 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvu0mu5.538.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#193854
On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in
>>>>>>>>> support of needed apps and use].
>>>>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>> 
>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't 
>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>> 
>>> They are running, dude.  
>>
>>I can guarantee you that most will be idling or backgrounded by the OS.
>>Plus, that's nothing that a mid-range PC or base mac couldn't handle
>>easily. 
>>
>>Come back when you have some real demanding computing requirements. 
>
>
> ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.

Are people still rolling on the floor laughing?
I think even iPhone users stopped rolling on the floor.
RMES= rolling my eyes, snickering is the new funny.
RMES= rolling my eyes sneering is avant-garde, considered a compliment
and sexual inuendo simutaniously.

-- 
End Transmission

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#193858

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 15:26 -0400
Message-ID<n0o0uj1g7b789vbecegi2bg04k7bkau2t2@4ax.com>
In reply to#193856
Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote:

>> ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>
>Are people still rolling on the floor laughing?
>I think even iPhone users stopped rolling on the floor.
>RMES= rolling my eyes, snickering is the new funny.
>RMES= rolling my eyes sneering is avant-garde, considered a compliment
>and sexual inuendo simutaniously.


You have to realize, I'm speaking to any sane lurkers and the cool
posters, not to the throwback posters.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193859

FromAdison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid>
Date2025-03-23 19:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnvu0oh6.5tn.Adison@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#193858
On 2025-03-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
>>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>>
>>Are people still rolling on the floor laughing?
>>I think even iPhone users stopped rolling on the floor.
>>RMES= rolling my eyes, snickering is the new funny.
>>RMES= rolling my eyes sneering is avant-garde, considered a compliment
>>and sexual inuendo simutaniously.
>
>
> You have to realize, I'm speaking to any sane lurkers and the cool
> posters, not to the throwback posters.

Throwback = majority.
Lurkers and cool = extinction event.

The lack of children secretly depresses you idiots ;)
The mentally ill don't realize they are mentally ill, they just blog.

Do I know you, or what?
RMES ;)

-- 
End Transmission

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#193884

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-03-24 14:44 -0700
Message-ID<vrsjoi$1l5lu$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193854
On 2025-03-23 11:51, Joel wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [A souped up Mac mini] would match what I have with Linux [in
>>>>>>>>> support of needed apps and use].
>>>>>>>> What actual tasks do you use the computer to complete?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keeping everything I run loaded at once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you run, and what resources does each use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>>
>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>>
>>> They are running, dude.
>>
>> I can guarantee you that most will be idling or backgrounded by the OS.
>> Plus, that's nothing that a mid-range PC or base mac couldn't handle
>> easily.
>>
>> Come back when you have some real demanding computing requirements.
> 
> 
> ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
> 

And yet you won't show the proof...

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#193889

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-24 19:11 -0400
Message-ID<cjp3ujt8q0273ljkeu7tbe647333lctnqq@4ax.com>
In reply to#193884
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-03-23 11:51, Joel wrote:
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>>>
>>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>>>
>>>> They are running, dude.
>>>
>>> I can guarantee you that most will be idling or backgrounded by the OS.
>>> Plus, that's nothing that a mid-range PC or base mac couldn't handle
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> Come back when you have some real demanding computing requirements.
>> 
>> ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>
>And yet you won't show the proof...


I don't have a need to prove to you that I'm telling the truth.  I
have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of
running the computer and using things that use RAM.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193898

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Message-ID<vrsueg$1u3ji$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193889
On 2025-03-24 16:11, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-03-23 11:51, Joel wrote:
>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/22/25 17:52, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take a look at my Cinnamon taskbar:  https://i.imgur.com/yPGDm6a.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um...yeah, so?   That you have ~25 Apps on your machine's Dock doesn't
>>>>>> mean that you have 25 Apps running concurrently.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are running, dude.
>>>>
>>>> I can guarantee you that most will be idling or backgrounded by the OS.
>>>> Plus, that's nothing that a mid-range PC or base mac couldn't handle
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> Come back when you have some real demanding computing requirements.
>>>
>>> ROFL, "come back when you", uh huh, no this is crossposted to a
>>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>>
>> And yet you won't show the proof...
> 
> 
> I don't have a need to prove to you that I'm telling the truth.

Yeah, actually:

you do.

>  I
> have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of
> running the computer and using things that use RAM.
So show it.

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#193907

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-24 21:11 -0400
Message-ID<mj04ujldfmcth908kn938cicg8a5g895f8@4ax.com>
In reply to#193898
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> this [thread] is crossposted to a
>>>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>>>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>>>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>>>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>>>
>>> And yet you won't show the proof...
>> 
>> I don't have a need to prove to you that I'm telling the truth.
>
>Yeah, actually:
>
>you do.
>
>>  I
>> have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of
>> running the computer and using things that use RAM.
>So show it.


Why?  What do I need to prove I'm telling you the truth about such a
simple matter?

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#193908

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-03-24 18:13 -0700
Message-ID<vrt00g$1u3up$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193907
On 2025-03-24 18:11, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> this [thread] is crossposted to a
>>>>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>>>>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>>>>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>>>>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>>>>
>>>> And yet you won't show the proof...
>>>
>>> I don't have a need to prove to you that I'm telling the truth.
>>
>> Yeah, actually:
>>
>> you do.
>>
>>>   I
>>> have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of
>>> running the computer and using things that use RAM.
>> So show it.
> 
> 
> Why?  What do I need to prove I'm telling you the truth about such a
> simple matter?
> 

Because it's easy, and if you could show it, you would.

Not showing it makes you look like a liar.

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#193913

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-24 21:57 -0400
Message-ID<0a34uj9pf5r7f4kneahsc4v6qgfq1684mi@4ax.com>
In reply to#193908
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> this [thread] is crossposted to a
>>>>>> newsgroup populated by people with a pulse.  What I showed in the
>>>>>> image was actually not as loaded as it will get with my system.  GIMP
>>>>>> was the only extra thing running, not LibreOffice or any array of PDF
>>>>>> windows or something.  I can eat up RAM.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet you won't show the proof...
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a need to prove to you that I'm telling the truth.
>>>
>>> Yeah, actually:
>>>
>>> you do.
>>>
>>>>   I
>>>> have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of
>>>> running the computer and using things that use RAM.
>>> So show it.
>> 
>> 
>> Why?  What do I need to prove I'm telling you the truth about such a
>> simple matter?
>
>Because it's easy, and if you could show it, you would.
>
>Not showing it makes you look like a liar.


Do you think my collection of concurrently running apps would not use
any RAM, or something?

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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