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Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone?

Started byMarion <marion@facts.com>
First post2025-08-11 19:48 +0000
Last post2025-08-18 10:04 -0700
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  Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 19:48 +0000
    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 20:38 +0000
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 22:16 +0000
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Rick <Rick@nospam.net> - 2025-08-12 09:56 -0400
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:59 -0400
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-11 17:28 -0700
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-12 01:01 +0000
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 01:34 +0000
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-12 19:26 +1200
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-12 20:59 +0000
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 21:22 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:40 -0700
                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 21:41 +0000
                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 15:22 -0700
                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 23:06 +0000
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:21 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-13 19:06 +0000
                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 15:51 -0400
                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0000
                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:55 -0700
                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:38 -0400
                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:43 +0000
                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:41 -0700
                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:19 +0000
                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:32 -0400
                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 15:37 -0700
                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 08:30 -0400
                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:41 +0000
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:48 +0000
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 19:36 +0000
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 12:49 -0700
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:59 +0000
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 16:07 -0400
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 13:16 -0700
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 20:43 +0000
                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:46 +1200
                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:11 -0700
                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:14 -0700
                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 21:13 +0000
                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:11 +0000
                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 10:25 -0400
                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:19 -0700
                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:55 -0400
                                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 12:01 -0700
                                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:38 -0400
                                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 13:48 -0700
                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:37 -0400
                                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 10:04 +1200
                                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-16 13:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 22:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-16 15:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 06:45 -0400
                                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:06 -0400
                                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:53 -0400
                                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:03 -0700
                                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 11:19 -0400
                                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:24 -0700
                                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 17:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 19:57 -0700
                                                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 11:00 +0000
                                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 15:45 -0400
                                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 13:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-19 10:54 -0400
                                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 21:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 20:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:52 -0700
                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 18:35 +1200
                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:38 +0000
                                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:27 -0700
                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:44 +1200
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 18:12 -0400
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:06 -0700
                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:42 +0000
                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 08:23 -0700
                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0000
                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:42 +0000
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:46 +0000
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 22:47 +0000
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 16:20 -0700
                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-14 23:47 +0000
                                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 23:54 +0000
                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:04 -0700
                                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:47 +0000
                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 15:55 +0000
                        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:40 +0000
                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:29 +0000
                            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 +0000
                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 10:13 -0700
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 -0400
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:31 -0700
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
                              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 20:53 +0000
                                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
                                  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 09:36 +0000
                                    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:37 +0000
                                      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 01:16 +0000
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 09:18 -0400
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:43 -0400
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 07:02 -0700
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 13:49 -0400
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 11:07 -0700
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 15:50 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:37 -0700
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:36 -0700
    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 07:25 -0400
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:23 -0400
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:42 +0000
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 10:04 -0700

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#197124

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-08-14 04:42 +0000
Message-ID<107jpg4$27mh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#197121
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 18:32:39 -0400, -hh wrote :


> Even an old 5W charger is perfectly fine for an overnight charge.

Heh heh heh...  Overnight charging... what a joke.

If you're speaking of "overnight charging", you're not on Android.

For years now, only the iPhone has needed to be charged overnight.

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#197130

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-14 08:23 -0700
Message-ID<107kv1h$iini$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197124
On 2025-08-13 21:42, Marion wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 18:32:39 -0400, -hh wrote :
> 
> 
>> Even an old 5W charger is perfectly fine for an overnight charge.
> 
> Heh heh heh...  Overnight charging... what a joke.

Why?

> 
> If you're speaking of "overnight charging", you're not on Android.
> 
> For years now, only the iPhone has needed to be charged overnight.

Even if that were true (and it's not)...

...so what?

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#197132

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-08-14 16:00 +0000
Message-ID<mg6fg5Fint5U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#197124
On 2025-08-14, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 18:32:39 -0400, -hh wrote :
>
>> Even an old 5W charger is perfectly fine for an overnight charge.
>
> Heh heh heh...  Overnight charging... what a joke.

The only joke here is you, little Arlen.

> If you're speaking of "overnight charging", you're not on Android.

Fuck Android, and fuck you. Peddle your irrational hated where people
care, and leave misc.phone.mobile.iphone out of it.

> For years now, only the iPhone has needed to be charged overnight.

Bullshit as usual. iPhones have been able to fast charge for ages now.
Little Arlen just cannot accept the fact that many of us don't need fast
charging because we charge overnight. 🤣

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#197140

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-08-14 17:42 +0000
Message-ID<107l75d$od1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#197132
On 14 Aug 2025 16:00:05 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> iPhones have been able to fast charge for ages now.

What matters is Apple's strategy is to make you buy your phone many times.

One way Apple makes you buy the same phone many times is crappy batteries.

The point is Apple put in crappy batteries which dictated all your actions.

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#197142

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Message-ID<107l7a8$iqj8$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197140
On 2025-08-14 10:42, Marion wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2025 16:00:05 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>> iPhones have been able to fast charge for ages now.
> 
> What matters is Apple's strategy is to make you buy your phone many times.
> 
> One way Apple makes you buy the same phone many times is crappy batteries.
> 
> The point is Apple put in crappy batteries which dictated all your actions.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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#197146

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-08-14 18:46 +0000
Message-ID<mg6p8hFke6fU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#197140
On 2025-08-14, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2025 16:00:05 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>> iPhones have been able to fast charge for ages now.
>
> What matters

What matters is the FACT that iPhones have been able to fast charge for
a long time, and many people have no need fast charging. Your trolls are
weak.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#197158

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-08-14 22:47 +0000
Message-ID<107lp15$f1q$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#197146
On 14 Aug 2025 18:46:42 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> What matters is the FACT that iPhones have been able to fast charge for
> a long time, and many people have no need fast charging. Your trolls are
> weak.

What matters more than anything is the iPhone starts with a crappy battery.
Everything you care about is harder because you're limited by Apple crap.

Why do you think iPhone RAM, batteries & hardware is such crap, JR?
Don't you think Apple puts crap in the iPhone to make you pay twice for it?

Apple isn't stupid.
They make the iPhone out of crap so you have to buy your way out of it.

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#197159

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-14 16:20 -0700
Message-ID<107lr0c$psb2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197158
On 2025-08-14 15:47, Marion wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2025 18:46:42 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>> What matters is the FACT that iPhones have been able to fast charge for
>> a long time, and many people have no need fast charging. Your trolls are
>> weak.
> 
> What matters more than anything is the iPhone starts with a crappy battery.
> Everything you care about is harder because you're limited by Apple crap.

And yet, somehow iPhones are regularly finish in the top for runtimes:

> 
> Why do you think iPhone RAM, batteries & hardware is such crap, JR?
> Don't you think Apple puts crap in the iPhone to make you pay twice for it?
> 
> Apple isn't stupid.
> They make the iPhone out of crap so you have to buy your way out of it.

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#197160

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-08-14 23:47 +0000
Message-ID<NYidnWzu-rMy6AP1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#197159
On Aug 14, 2025 at 7:20:44 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2025-08-14 15:47, Marion wrote:
>> On 14 Aug 2025 18:46:42 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>> 
>> 
>>> What matters is the FACT that iPhones have been able to fast charge for
>>> a long time, and many people have no need fast charging. Your trolls are
>>> weak.
>> 
>> What matters more than anything is the iPhone starts with a crappy battery.
>> Everything you care about is harder because you're limited by Apple crap.
> 
> And yet, somehow iPhones are regularly finish in the top for runtimes:

Now now.   You KNOW that Arlen can't deal with facts. 

What really matters is that I charge my iPhone 16 Pro Max about twice a week,
when it gets down to 70% or so. Plug it into an iPad charger (I have many) and
its 100% in less than an hour.

Which is the same thing I do with my 12 Pro Max, which still has 88% battery
capacity and its almost 5 years old.   

As always, Arlen is a lying bag of shit.

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#197161

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-08-14 23:54 +0000
Message-ID<107lsva$6h0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#197160
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 23:47:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :


>> And yet, somehow iPhones are regularly finish in the top for runtimes:
> 
> Now now.   You KNOW that Arlen can't deal with facts.

Run times are tested when the phones are brand new.
The cheap batteries in iPhones make them die sooner.

One is measured in hours. 
The other in years (charge cycles, actually).

Only an Apple troll could confuse the two completely different concepts.

This is one way I know how incredibly stupid you Apple trolls are.

We've discussed this topic for years and you *still* can't figure out that
a metric measured in hours isn't the same as metrics measured in years.

Who is that stupid?
Just you.

You can't learn.
It's no wonder you've been told you're stupid your entire life.

Buying those crappy batteries twice is part of why iPhones costs twice the
MSRP over the life of the iPhone. Which is the main point about them.

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#197163

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-14 17:04 -0700
Message-ID<107ltj8$psb2$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197161
On 2025-08-14 16:54, Marion wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 23:47:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>> And yet, somehow iPhones are regularly finish in the top for runtimes:
>>
>> Now now.   You KNOW that Arlen can't deal with facts.
> 
> Run times are tested when the phones are brand new.
> The cheap batteries in iPhones make them die sooner.

No, they don't

> 
> One is measured in hours.
> The other in years (charge cycles, actually).

Exactly, a charge cycles are perfectly correlated with run times in that 
you need a charge cycle only as often as your phone runs down...

...which depends entirely on run time.

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#197176

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-15 14:47 +0000
Message-ID<107nh9b$1674a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197161
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 23:47:59 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
> 
> 
>>> And yet, somehow iPhones are regularly finish in the top for runtimes:
>> 
>> Now now.   You KNOW that Arlen can't deal with facts.
> 
> Run times are tested when the phones are brand new.
> The cheap batteries in iPhones make them die sooner.

[Factcheck: unsubstantiated and therefore false]

> One is measured in hours. 
> The other in years (charge cycles, actually).
> 
> Only an Apple troll could confuse the two completely different concepts.
> 
> This is one way I know how incredibly stupid you Apple trolls are.
> 
> We've discussed this topic for years and you *still* can't figure out that
> a metric measured in hours isn't the same as metrics measured in years.

The fact is you've never, ever substantiated your claims. 

> 
> Who is that stupid?

Must. Resist. Too. Easy. 

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#197131

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-08-14 15:55 +0000
Message-ID<mg6f7iFint5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#197116
On 2025-08-13, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:51:15 -0400, -hh wrote :
>
>>> desperately want to pretend "slower charging" equals "wrong", when
>>> that is very obviously complete and utter bullshit.
>> 
>> Wait until they go out to finally buy an actual new car ...
>> 
>> ... and they learn that floor mats are optional equipment
>
> Why would anyone pay over a thousand bucks for a phone designed for
> fast charging, and then put a far-below-minimum-standards 5W brick on
> it?

And now little Arlen wants to pretend that fast charging doesn't wear
out batteries faster. He also wants to ignore the fact that many people
don't need their device to charge quickly anyway since they charge while
they sleep. Arlen lives in a fantasy world.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#197137

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-08-14 17:40 +0000
Message-ID<107l72f$lfq$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#197131
On 14 Aug 2025 15:55:31 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


> many people
> don't need their device to charge quickly anyway since they charge while
> they sleep.

Please realize I'm trying to teach you something about Apple's strategy.

What's important is Apple's strategy of putting crappy batteries in the
iPhone severely limits your choices. Apple isn't stupid.

Apple put crappy batteries in the iPhone for the same strategically
fundamental reasons that Apple removed all the functional iPhone ports. 

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#197143

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
Message-ID<107l7al$iqj8$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197137
On 2025-08-14 10:40, Marion wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2025 15:55:31 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>> many people
>> don't need their device to charge quickly anyway since they charge while
>> they sleep.
> 
> Please realize I'm trying to teach you something about Apple's strategy.
> 
> What's important is Apple's strategy of putting crappy batteries in the
> iPhone severely limits your choices. Apple isn't stupid.
> 
> Apple put crappy batteries in the iPhone for the same strategically
> fundamental reasons that Apple removed all the functional iPhone ports.

LOLOLOLLOLOLOL!

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#197145

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-08-14 18:45 +0000
Message-ID<mg6p5mFke6fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#197137
On 2025-08-14, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2025 15:55:31 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>
>> many people don't need their device to charge quickly anyway since
>> they charge while they sleep.
>
> Please realize

Your trolls are ultra-weak, little Arlen.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#197169

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-15 08:29 +0000
Message-ID<107mr4h$10rna$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197137
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2025 15:55:31 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>> many people
>> don't need their device to charge quickly anyway since they charge while
>> they sleep.
> 
> Please realize I'm trying to teach you something about Apple's strategy.

You are fundamentally incapable to teach anyone anything as you are immune
to learning yourself. 

> What's important is Apple's strategy of putting crappy batteries in the
> iPhone 

[factcheck: this is false]

We've discussed this and everyone including you agreed that Apple batteries
are very efficient. Battery capacity is only one aspect, however you're
blind to that fact. 

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#197174

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-08-15 14:06 +0000
Message-ID<107nesm$1bkt$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#197169
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:29:05 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :


> We've discussed this and everyone including you agreed that Apple batteries
> are very efficient. 

I can teach you only if you can absorb the obvious well-known facts, Chris.

The efficiency benchmarks everyone agreed on show the iPhone efficiency
sucks compared to what Apple has been claiming was stellar efficiency.

Almost every OEM except Apple was able to earn an A in efficiency.

> Battery capacity is only one aspect, however you're
> blind to that fact.

What I'm not blind to, Chris, is that iPhone batteries are outright puny.
And, that only the iPhone 15+ (barely) meet the EU min charge cycle spec.

Apple isn't stupid.
You think they put those bare-minimum crappy batteries there by mistake?

The crappy batteries are just one reason you buy every iPhone twice.

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#197177

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-15 10:13 -0700
Message-ID<107npsj$1765q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197174
On 2025-08-15 07:06, Marion wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:29:05 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>> We've discussed this and everyone including you agreed that Apple batteries
>> are very efficient.
> 
> I can teach you only if you can absorb the obvious well-known facts, Chris.
> 
> The efficiency benchmarks everyone agreed on show the iPhone efficiency
> sucks compared to what Apple has been claiming was stellar efficiency.
> 
> Almost every OEM except Apple was able to earn an A in efficiency.
> 
>> Battery capacity is only one aspect, however you're
>> blind to that fact.
> 
> What I'm not blind to, Chris, is that iPhone batteries are outright puny.
> And, that only the iPhone 15+ (barely) meet the EU min charge cycle spec.

No. Only the iPhone 15 and beyond have been TESTED to that standard...

...because the older iPhone models were discontinued at pretty much the 
same pace as they always are.

Model        Lifespan

iPhone 14    29 months
iPhone 13    24 months
iPhone 12    35 months
iPhone 11    36 months
iPhone XR    35 months
iPhone 8     31 months
iPhone 7     36 months
iPhone 6s    36 months
iPhone 6     48 months
iPhone 5s    30 months
iPhone 5     12 months
iPhone 4s    35 months
iPhone 4     39 months
iPhone 3GS   12 months
iPhone 3G    23 months
iPhone       13 months

Sorry to burst your bubble.

(Not really sorry).

> 
> Apple isn't stupid.
> You think they put those bare-minimum crappy batteries there by mistake?
> 
> The crappy batteries are just one reason you buy every iPhone twice.

<https://nanoreview.net/en/phone-list/endurance-rating>

iPhones are 3 of the top ten smartphones by battery life.

6 of the top 25

11 of the top 100

13 of the top 150.

The iPhone 15--which you claim is the only iPhone that could meet the EU 
minimum charge cycle requirement--is bettered in runtime by 3 iPhones 
that preceded it; the earliest being the iPhone 13 Pro Max, which was 
released 2 years before the iPhone 15.

Your much touted (by you at least) Samsung Galaxy A32 5G with its much 
vaunted (by you at least) 5,000mA-h battery?

Yeah, it's runtime is 25 hours, 37 minutes...

...which is just 6 minutes...

...or just 0.39% longer, despite having a battery that's nearly 50% 
larger (5,000mA-h vs 3,349mA-h).

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#197178

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-08-15 14:06 -0400
Message-ID<107nsvl$18012$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#197177
On 8/15/25 13:13, Alan wrote:
> ...
> Your much touted (by you at least) Samsung Galaxy A32 5G with its much 
> vaunted (by you at least) 5,000mA-h battery?
> 
> Yeah, it's runtime is 25 hours, 37 minutes...
> 
> ...which is just 6 minutes...
> 
> ...or just 0.39% longer, despite having a battery that's nearly 50% 
> larger (5,000mA-h vs 3,349mA-h).

Hmmm...

5000mA-hr/(25:37) = 195.2mA-hr/hr

vs.

3349mA-hr/(25:29) = 131.4mA-hr/hr

Thus:

195.2/131.4 = 48.5% higher average power consumption by the Samsung.


-hh

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