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| Started by | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-03-26 11:09 +1300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 231 — 20 participants |
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Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 09:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 12:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 13:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> - 2025-03-21 15:00 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-21 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 16:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 23:53 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-21 20:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:29 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 19:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 20:14 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:54 -0500
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 09:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 19:16 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 14:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 17:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-20 15:52 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 20:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-21 16:47 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 13:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 12:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 15:56 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-21 22:27 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 16:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 14:04 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 17:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-22 19:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 08:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 12:21 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:22 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:35 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 18:41 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 21:05 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:22 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 17:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-23 22:34 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 13:39 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 10:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 19:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:38 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:59 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 01:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:16 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:24 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:40 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:48 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 11:51 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-10 10:07 +1200
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 18:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 19:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:14 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:24 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:31 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 15:39 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:52 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:58 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 22:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-23 16:02 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 20:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-24 09:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-24 20:10 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 18:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:51 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:06 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 15:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:33 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 18:13 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:15 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:22 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:36 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 20:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:09 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:29 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Rudy Canoza <rc@j.kone.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:32 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 02:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 18:27 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 16:55 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:08 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 17:10 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 20:21 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-04 23:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 02:50 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 16:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-04-05 20:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 07:42 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 08:07 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:44 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 12:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 15:59 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:11 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-07 08:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-05 15:49 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-05 16:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 01:26 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπJenπππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ Dershmendenderer ππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπΆη¬πππ»πΊπΉπ»ππ·πΊπ <root@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-06 03:18 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 03:35 +0000
Re: π³οΈβπApple requires too much money and sacrifice of controlπ³οΈβπ vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-06 04:31 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 03:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:01 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-23 18:08 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-23 05:37 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:45 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 23:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 14:46 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:47 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-25 00:52 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 17:59 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 21:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:43 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 22:28 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 19:44 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:48 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:12 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 04:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 18:48 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 17:24 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-25 18:03 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 07:40 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:36 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-03-27 10:05 +1300
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 17:43 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-26 19:05 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:17 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 02:25 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:49 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 03:30 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 11:57 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:15 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 07:45 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 08:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:44 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 18:26 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:53 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-27 22:42 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 01:45 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 07:50 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 02:08 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 22:16 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 18:11 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:43 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 21:18 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 08:26 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 14:58 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 15:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:09 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 20:33 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 00:00 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:06 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-03-24 21:09 -0700
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 00:25 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:13 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:20 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:01 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:05 +0000
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:47 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> - 2025-03-25 10:35 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 10:41 -0400
Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 11:04 -0400
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-18 18:12 -0400 |
| Subject | Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control |
| Message-ID | <uorjtj1svg4iel6a1il22vrqbe394idovc@4ax.com> |
A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-20 09:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrhet5$3jbl7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193744 |
On 2025-03-18 15:12, Joel wrote: > A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is > unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I > think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. > What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much?
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-03-20 12:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <XhXCP.3$541.2@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #193766 |
On 2025-03-20 12:14, Alan wrote: > On 2025-03-18 15:12, Joel wrote: >> A Mac mini would be $1400.Β What I could build for that is >> unbelievable.Β Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK.Β I >> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >> > > What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? He draws penises near the mouths of celebrities on photos. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-20 13:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <uukotjd7eahnvqsmj33ob574k4o5cv6p5o@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193767 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >On 2025-03-20 12:14, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-03-18 15:12, Joel wrote: >>> A Mac mini would be $1400.Β What I could build for that is >>> unbelievable.Β Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK.Β I >>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >> >> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? > >He draws penises near the mouths of celebrities on photos. No, but I am a celebrity whose mouth has been in a photo on a penis. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-20 13:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vmkotjl7qj0nsfb9f48pdk1p9godi0fa8b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193766 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. > >What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-20 19:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrhri1$3udgs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193768 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >> >> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? > > > I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be > more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather > than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your workload. Note that WINE works on Arm Macs. No need for VMs if the you the software works with WINE.
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| From | Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 15:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrjutl$1pt8d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193771 |
On 2025-03-20, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>> >>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? >> >> >> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. > > Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your > workload. > > Note that WINE works on Arm Macs. No need for VMs if the you the software > works with WINE. > > > MAC computers are designed for click and point users. Just sayin...
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 19:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1r9ka59.13epg0qjztlivN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #193784 |
Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> wrote: > MAC computers are designed for click and point users. Just sayin... Point first, *then* click, as any fool knows. -- ^Γ^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 16:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ltjrtj57ccmluaq9alkgj39svsv0981vg2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193784 |
Mikey <Mikey.Smith@aol.invalid> wrote: >MAC computers are designed for click and point users. Just sayin... I would point out that the Unix underlying it is very powerful. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 12:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <674rtj9bs5bruglae04i0ctop3crtg453i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193771 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>> >>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? >> >> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. > >Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your >workload. The point is that I should be able to afford a Mac mini that would work for me, but they price the upgrades so high that it just tells us they're a high-end brand name, not actually better than any other OS. >Note that WINE works on Arm Macs. No need for VMs if the you the software >works with WINE. I retract my previous comment, the support for x86 Windows raw code by Rosetta 2 is something I would theoretically value, although outweighed by the real cost of a new Mac system (changing my imagined setup from using a VM to Wine has less impact on the demand than one might think). -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 23:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vrku6b$2l4n2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193785 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>>> >>>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? >>> >>> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >>> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >>> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. >> >> Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your >> workload. > > > The point is that I should be able to afford a Mac mini that would > work for me, Why? > but they price the upgrades so high that it just tells us > they're a high-end brand name, not actually better than any other OS. That's not everyone's experience, but yeah Apple doesn't do cheap. > >> Note that WINE works on Arm Macs. No need for VMs if the you the software >> works with WINE. > > > I retract my previous comment, the support for x86 Windows raw code by > Rosetta 2 is something I would theoretically value, Not quite right. Rosetta 2 enables intel macos binaries to run on arm macos through a one-time translation. Not sure whether wine needs rosetta to work on arm macs. > although > outweighed by the real cost of a new Mac system (changing my imagined > setup from using a VM to Wine has less impact on the demand than one > might think). >
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 20:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <p9vrtj5ffgtb691g2pe89iih94jahbedbp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193798 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>>>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>>>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>>>> >>>>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? >>>> >>>> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >>>> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >>>> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. >>> >>> Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your >>> workload. >> >> The point is that I should be able to afford a Mac mini that would >> work for me, > >Why? If Apple wasn't a gimmick. >> but they price the upgrades so high that it just tells us >> they're a high-end brand name, not actually better than any other OS. > >That's not everyone's experience, but yeah Apple doesn't do cheap. Your experience with their OS may be fabulous, but I promise you Linux is better than people think. >>> Note that WINE works on Arm Macs. No need for VMs if the you the software >>> works with WINE. >> >> I retract my previous comment, the support for x86 Windows raw code by >> Rosetta 2 is something I would theoretically value, > >Not quite right. Rosetta 2 enables intel macos binaries to run on arm macos >through a one-time translation. > >Not sure whether wine needs rosetta to work on arm macs. It said it does support running code under Wine through Rosetta 2. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 20:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xxxxxx-29171A.20270321032025@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #193799 |
In article <p9vrtj5ffgtb691g2pe89iih94jahbedbp@4ax.com>, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is > >>>>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I > >>>>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. > >>>>> > >>>>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that > >>>>> much? > >>>> > >>>> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be > >>>> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather > >>>> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. > >>> > >>> Then don't buy hardware (you can't afford?) that isn't suitable for your > >>> workload. > >> > >> The point is that I should be able to afford a Mac mini that would > >> work for me, > > > >Why? > > > If Apple wasn't a gimmick. > > > >> but they price the upgrades so high that it just tells us > >> they're a high-end brand name, not actually better than any other OS. > > > >That's not everyone's experience, but yeah Apple doesn't do cheap. > > > Your experience with their OS may be fabulous, but I promise you Linux > is better than people think. Except that most people don't even know what "Linux" or "MacOS" or "Windows" are. Most people are not computer geeks and have no desire to become one. So they run a Mac or a Dell or an HP. "OS" has no meaning to most people. Linux is fun if you like to tinker with OSes. Windows is fine if you need it for work. Macs are easy to use and fit right in with iPhones and iPads. But in general, most people have no real use for "computers" these days. A phone and a maybe tablet are really all most people need for personal, every day use. So arguing about "how good (Linux/Mac/Windows) really is" is an argument that is years out of date. "I promise you Linux is better than people think" does not matter. No one today cares. I promise you that a Beta VCR was better than a VHS VCR. No one cares today.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-22 00:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m46fi5FcqfqU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #193800 |
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:27:03 -0400, Johnny LaRue wrote: > So they run a Mac or a Dell or an HP. "OS" has no meaning to most > people. It's rather hard to miss running on a Windows box. If nothing else the self-advertising popups will remind you.
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| From | Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 19:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xxxxxx-42E6D7.19571425032025@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #193802 |
In article <m46fi5FcqfqU3@mid.individual.net>, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:27:03 -0400, Johnny LaRue wrote: > > > So they run a Mac or a Dell or an HP. "OS" has no meaning to most > > people. > > It's rather hard to miss running on a Windows box. If nothing else the > self-advertising popups will remind you. Maybe. They might see "Microsoft". But the point remains that most people have no idea what an "Operating System" is. Because most people are not computer geeks.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 21:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ti5stjdi99vtftupq0mumtdpb7hl037p9t@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193800 |
Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: >Linux is fun if you like to tinker with OSes. Windows is fine if you >need it for work. Macs are easy to use and fit right in with iPhones >and iPads. > >But in general, most people have no real use for "computers" these days. >A phone and a maybe tablet are really all most people need for personal, >every day use. > >So arguing about "how good (Linux/Mac/Windows) really is" is an argument >that is years out of date. > >"I promise you Linux is better than people think" does not matter. No >one today cares. I promise you that a Beta VCR was better than a VHS >VCR. If you don't want to learn anything, I get it. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-21 22:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vrlhrf$38sdl$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #193803 |
On 2025-03-21 18:49, Joel wrote: > Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: > >> Linux is fun if you like to tinker with OSes. Windows is fine if you >> need it for work. Macs are easy to use and fit right in with iPhones >> and iPads. >> >> But in general, most people have no real use for "computers" these days. >> A phone and a maybe tablet are really all most people need for personal, >> every day use. >> >> So arguing about "how good (Linux/Mac/Windows) really is" is an argument >> that is years out of date. >> >> "I promise you Linux is better than people think" does not matter. No >> one today cares. I promise you that a Beta VCR was better than a VHS >> VCR. > > > If you don't want to learn anything, I get it. You really don't. Do you want to know every detail of how to construct a car... ...or do you just want to drive one?
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-22 16:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oc7utjt23s09ht537j4l61vnvebiejonj1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #193807 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> If you don't want to learn anything [by tinkering with Linux], I get it. >You really don't. > >Do you want to know every detail of how to construct a car... > >...or do you just want to drive one? I can have the best of both worlds, by mastering Linux for my needs. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 19:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xxxxxx-BE2CBE.19593625032025@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #193807 |
In article <vrlhrf$38sdl$5@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2025-03-21 18:49, Joel wrote: > > Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: > > > >> Linux is fun if you like to tinker with OSes. Windows is fine if you > >> need it for work. Macs are easy to use and fit right in with iPhones > >> and iPads. > >> > >> But in general, most people have no real use for "computers" these days. > >> A phone and a maybe tablet are really all most people need for personal, > >> every day use. > >> > >> So arguing about "how good (Linux/Mac/Windows) really is" is an argument > >> that is years out of date. > >> > >> "I promise you Linux is better than people think" does not matter. No > >> one today cares. I promise you that a Beta VCR was better than a VHS > >> VCR. > > > > > > If you don't want to learn anything, I get it. > You really don't. > > Do you want to know every detail of how to construct a car... > > ...or do you just want to drive one? Exactly. Just because everyone reading this ARE computer geeks, does not mean that the whole world is made up of computer geeks.
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| From | Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2025-03-25 20:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xxxxxx-24AC0C.20143225032025@news.supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #193803 |
In article <ti5stjdi99vtftupq0mumtdpb7hl037p9t@4ax.com>, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote: > > >Linux is fun if you like to tinker with OSes. Windows is fine if you > >need it for work. Macs are easy to use and fit right in with iPhones > >and iPads. > > > >But in general, most people have no real use for "computers" these days. > >A phone and a maybe tablet are really all most people need for personal, > >every day use. > > > >So arguing about "how good (Linux/Mac/Windows) really is" is an argument > >that is years out of date. > > > >"I promise you Linux is better than people think" does not matter. No > >one today cares. I promise you that a Beta VCR was better than a VHS > >VCR. > > > If you don't want to learn anything, I get it. Actually, there is nothing else that I need to know. I have been using/running/programming computers since before you were born. These days I just want them to work. I am no longer interested in compiling the kernel to add a driver for a Microsoft Bus Mouse. Yes, I actually did that in 1988 or so. On Slackware Linux I think. Or maybe it was Coherent Unix. It's all just a Bad Memory now.
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