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Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it.

Started bySales <sales@drpepper.com>
First post2024-12-07 15:08 -0800
Last post2024-12-09 10:26 -0600
Articles 20 on this page of 363 — 12 participants

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  Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Sales <sales@drpepper.com> - 2024-12-07 15:08 -0800
    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:47 -0500
      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 15:51 -0800
        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:12 -0500
          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:46 -0800
            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:59 -0500
              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:04 -0800
                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:18 -0500
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:27 -0800
                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:33 -0500
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:49 -0800
                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 21:01 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 18:13 -0800
                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 22:45 -0500
                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 20:08 -0800
                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 23:24 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 -0800
                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 08:15 -0500
                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 10:37 -0800
                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 15:37 -0500
                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 15:34 -0800
                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 18:57 -0500
                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:13 -0800
                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:19 -0500
                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:25 -0800
                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:52 -0800
                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 17:14 -0800
                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 07:38 -0500
                                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 08:23 -0500
                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:40 -0600
                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:05 -0500
                                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:13 -0600
                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:39 -0800
                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:21 -0600
                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 11:28 -0500
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                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:39 -0600
                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:37 -0600
                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 00:26 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 22:47 -0800
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:41 -0600
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:34 -0600
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:30 -0600
                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-08 01:21 +0000
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:30 -0800
                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-08 01:46 +0000
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:40 -0500
                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-08 01:55 +0000
              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-07 21:14 -0500
                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 22:45 -0500
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-08 03:54 +0000
                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-08 07:42 -0500
                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 08:21 -0500
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 10:39 -0800
                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 15:41 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 15:32 -0800
                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 18:59 -0500
                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:24 -0800
                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:47 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:53 -0800
                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:06 -0500
                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 17:16 -0800
                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:20 -0500
                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 18:02 -0800
                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 10:31 -0500
                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:44 -0800
                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:09 -0500
                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:21 -0800
                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:31 -0500
                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:33 -0800
                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:52 -0500
                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 12:28 -0800
                                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 15:49 -0500
                                                              Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 14:29 -0800
                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 10:05 -0500
                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-10 10:18 -0800
                                                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 13:37 -0500
                                                                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-10 10:42 -0800
                                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 13:53 -0500
                                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 13:06 -0600
                                                                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-10 11:19 -0800
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                                                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-11 13:26 -0600
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                                                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-11 20:42 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Howie Feltersnatch <a@apple.sux> - 2024-12-14 20:53 +0100
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                                                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 09:57 -0500
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                                                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Howie Feltersnatch <a@apple.sux> - 2024-12-14 20:18 +0100
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                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:47 -0600
                      Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-08 14:45 -0500
                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 15:47 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-08 17:34 -0500
                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 17:46 -0500
                          Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 15:33 -0800
                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:04 -0500
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                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 19:48 -0500
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:53 -0800
                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-08 16:54 -0800
                                    Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 20:07 -0500
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                                            Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 23:51 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 14:40 -0500
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                                                                                                                                        Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. paranoia <mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2025-01-03 22:23 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: Racist Apple is targeting blacks only and abusing white women to do it. AlphaHeater <AlphaHeater21@6959.concepte.store> - 2025-01-06 02:52 +0000
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#191784

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-10 14:55 -0800
Message-ID<vjagtv$1604f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191780
On 2024-12-10 14:24, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)
>>>
>>> Mach's derivatives are the basis of the operating system kernel in GNU
>>> Hurd and of Apple's XNU kernel used in macOS, iOS, iPadOS, tvOS, and
>>> watchOS.
>> And XNU therefore isn't Mach and Mach is NOT the kernel that Apple uses.
> 
> 
> Uh huh.
> 
> 
>> So the answer is to the question, "Does Apple have its own kernel?"...
>>
>> ...is:
>>
>> Yes. Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>
>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>
>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
> 
> 
> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
> 

Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.

And Microsoft hired Cutler, because THEY didn't want to start from 
scratch...

...because Cutler had been one of the technical product leads on VMS...

...which Windows NT internally very much resembles.

<https://everything2.com/title/The+similarities+between+VMS+and+Windows+NT>

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#191787

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-10 18:03 -0500
Message-ID<u2ihljp7v0n4k87h42h91j09os95gvdpb6@4ax.com>
In reply to#191784
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>
>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>
>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>> 
>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>
>Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.


*That* is the question, believe it or not.


>And Microsoft hired Cutler, because THEY didn't want to start from 
>scratch...
>
>...because Cutler had been one of the technical product leads on VMS...
>
>...which Windows NT internally very much resembles.
>
><https://everything2.com/title/The+similarities+between+VMS+and+Windows+NT>


Uh huh.  But Cutler did start from scratch, emulating what he did
before, emulating what anyone would do, it's like the discovery of
ketamine, they didn't really invent or design it, they *found* it.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191789

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-10 15:07 -0800
Message-ID<vjahil$165je$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191787
On 2024-12-10 15:03, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>
>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>
>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>
>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>
>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
> 
> 
> *That* is the question, believe it or not.

One you're not answering...

> 
> 
>> And Microsoft hired Cutler, because THEY didn't want to start from
>> scratch...
>>
>> ...because Cutler had been one of the technical product leads on VMS...
>>
>> ...which Windows NT internally very much resembles.
>>
>> <https://everything2.com/title/The+similarities+between+VMS+and+Windows+NT>
> 
> 
> Uh huh.  But Cutler did start from scratch, emulating what he did
> before, emulating what anyone would do, it's like the discovery of
> ketamine, they didn't really invent or design it, they *found* it.
"emulating what he did before" is NOT starting from scratch.

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#191805

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 10:30 -0500
Message-ID<vgbjljtt6rmg7vi7qmbba36v4t94k02jro@4ax.com>
In reply to#191789
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>
>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>
>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>> 
>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>
>One you're not answering...


Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
Torvalds for being beyond a genius.


>>> And Microsoft hired Cutler, because THEY didn't want to start from
>>> scratch...
>>>
>>> ...because Cutler had been one of the technical product leads on VMS...
>>>
>>> ...which Windows NT internally very much resembles.
>>>
>>> <https://everything2.com/title/The+similarities+between+VMS+and+Windows+NT>
>> 
>> Uh huh.  But Cutler did start from scratch, emulating what he did
>> before, emulating what anyone would do, it's like the discovery of
>> ketamine, they didn't really invent or design it, they *found* it.
>"emulating what he did before" is NOT starting from scratch.


The code for NT is original Microsoft.  That is simply not the case
with macOS and Apple, on some level.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191809

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 09:19 -0800
Message-ID<vjchjq$1ku28$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191805
On 2024-12-11 07:30, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>
>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>
>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>
>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>
>> One you're not answering...
> 
> 
> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.

That still doesn't answer the question.

> 
> 
>>>> And Microsoft hired Cutler, because THEY didn't want to start from
>>>> scratch...
>>>>
>>>> ...because Cutler had been one of the technical product leads on VMS...
>>>>
>>>> ...which Windows NT internally very much resembles.
>>>>
>>>> <https://everything2.com/title/The+similarities+between+VMS+and+Windows+NT>
>>>
>>> Uh huh.  But Cutler did start from scratch, emulating what he did
>>> before, emulating what anyone would do, it's like the discovery of
>>> ketamine, they didn't really invent or design it, they *found* it.
>> "emulating what he did before" is NOT starting from scratch.
> 
> 
> The code for NT is original Microsoft.  That is simply not the case
> with macOS and Apple, on some level.
A lot of it is pretty much copied from VMS.

And again... ...so what?

There is a very small amount of code in macOS that comes from Mach and 
BSD...

...and vastly, VASTLY more than is completely original.

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#191810

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 12:29 -0500
Message-ID<bmijljh1sfuor9cvne3pf2aeio596vt82t@4ax.com>
In reply to#191809
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>>
>>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>>
>>> One you're not answering...
>> 
>> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
>> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.
>
>That still doesn't answer the question.


I can boot my modern PC with Linux, because a person with the mind to
create a kernel exists.  Apple never acquired a programmer quite on
that level, clearly.


>>>>> And Microsoft hired Cutler, because THEY didn't want to start from
>>>>> scratch...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...because Cutler had been one of the technical product leads on VMS...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...which Windows NT internally very much resembles.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://everything2.com/title/The+similarities+between+VMS+and+Windows+NT>
>>>>
>>>> Uh huh.  But Cutler did start from scratch, emulating what he did
>>>> before, emulating what anyone would do, it's like the discovery of
>>>> ketamine, they didn't really invent or design it, they *found* it.
>>> "emulating what he did before" is NOT starting from scratch.
>> 
>> The code for NT is original Microsoft.  That is simply not the case
>> with macOS and Apple, on some level.
>A lot of it is pretty much copied from VMS.
>
>And again... ...so what?
>
>There is a very small amount of code in macOS that comes from Mach and 
>BSD...
>
>...and vastly, VASTLY more than is completely original.


Fair enough.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191813

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 10:19 -0800
Message-ID<vjcl2u$1llo0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191810
On 2024-12-11 09:29, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>>>
>>>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>>>
>>>> One you're not answering...
>>>
>>> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
>>> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.
>>
>> That still doesn't answer the question.
> 
> 
> I can boot my modern PC with Linux, because a person with the mind to
> create a kernel exists.  Apple never acquired a programmer quite on
> that level, clearly.

And again:

What does it matter WHO wrote the kernel?

What's important is that the computer works.

And macOS works.

You need to learn what a circular argument is.

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#191816

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-12-11 18:27 +0000
Message-ID<lru3tfFdudcU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#191813
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:19:10 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
<vjcl2u$1llo0$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-12-11 09:29, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> One you're not answering...
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
>>>> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.
>>>
>>> That still doesn't answer the question.
>> 
>> 
>> I can boot my modern PC with Linux, because a person with the mind to
>> create a kernel exists.  Apple never acquired a programmer quite on
>> that level, clearly.
> 
> And again:
> 
> What does it matter WHO wrote the kernel?
> 
> What's important is that the computer works.
> 
> And macOS works.

Well....

$ ./use_pathconf /
1024
$ uname -a
Darwin Mac-Studio 23.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 23.2.0: Wed Nov 15 21:55:06 
PST 2023; root:xnu-10002.61.3~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T6020 arm64

1024?  tsk tsk tsk.

(fu2: cola)

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.12.4 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
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#191819

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 10:38 -0800
Message-ID<vjcm6o$1llu4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191816
On 2024-12-11 10:27, vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:19:10 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> <vjcl2u$1llo0$1@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 2024-12-11 09:29, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One you're not answering...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
>>>>> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.
>>>>
>>>> That still doesn't answer the question.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can boot my modern PC with Linux, because a person with the mind to
>>> create a kernel exists.  Apple never acquired a programmer quite on
>>> that level, clearly.
>>
>> And again:
>>
>> What does it matter WHO wrote the kernel?
>>
>> What's important is that the computer works.
>>
>> And macOS works.
> 
> Well....
> 
> $ ./use_pathconf /
> 1024
> $ uname -a
> Darwin Mac-Studio 23.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 23.2.0: Wed Nov 15 21:55:06
> PST 2023; root:xnu-10002.61.3~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T6020 arm64
> 
> 1024?  tsk tsk tsk.
> 
> (fu2: cola)
> 

What are you "tsk"ing about? 1024 is too short for a path length do you?

(BTW, I don't subscribe to cola, so I'm restoring the groups I want to 
read...)

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#191817

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 13:34 -0500
Message-ID<7imjljd1v6pn0he0s7hfu2p7uja4uls97l@4ax.com>
In reply to#191813
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> One you're not answering...
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
>>>> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.
>>>
>>> That still doesn't answer the question.
>> 
>> I can boot my modern PC with Linux, because a person with the mind to
>> create a kernel exists.  Apple never acquired a programmer quite on
>> that level, clearly.
>
>And again:
>
>What does it matter WHO wrote the kernel?
>
>What's important is that the computer works.
>
>And macOS works.
>
>You need to learn what a circular argument is.


It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.  They depend on
Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.  I actually enjoyed
seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191821

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 10:44 -0800
Message-ID<vjcmic$1llu4$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191817
On 2024-12-11 10:34, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>> Apple uses a kernel called XNU that they developed from Mach and
>>>>>>>>>> other sources with huge amounts of their own work as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, here's a question for you:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why is it even important which kernel Apple uses?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They didn't build it from scratch, like Winblows NT did.  Why did
>>>>>>>>> Gates hire Cutler?  Why did Apple wish they could've?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why SHOULD they build it from scratch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *That* is the question, believe it or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One you're not answering...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think we call GNU/Linux mainly "Linux", it's a tribute to
>>>>> Torvalds for being beyond a genius.
>>>>
>>>> That still doesn't answer the question.
>>>
>>> I can boot my modern PC with Linux, because a person with the mind to
>>> create a kernel exists.  Apple never acquired a programmer quite on
>>> that level, clearly.
>>
>> And again:
>>
>> What does it matter WHO wrote the kernel?
>>
>> What's important is that the computer works.
>>
>> And macOS works.
>>
>> You need to learn what a circular argument is.
> 
> 
> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.

So it's about bragging rights again.

> They depend on
> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications. 

Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating 
systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.

> I actually enjoyed
> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
Again with the "quirky".

I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that 
while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost 
never see them anymore.

Because their Macs work that well.

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#191826

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 13:56 -0500
Message-ID<dsnjljthl4vqeq17ohootp3v2s5vio6hd6@4ax.com>
In reply to#191821
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>
>So it's about bragging rights again.


"Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
over macOS.


>> They depend on
>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications. 
>
>Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating 
>systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.


Microsoft is more full-service.


>> I actually enjoyed
>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>Again with the "quirky".


Yep, wear it.


>I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that 
>while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost 
>never see them anymore.
>
>Because their Macs work that well.


Well, I support my own computer.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191827

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 11:07 -0800
Message-ID<vjcnts$1llu4$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191826
On 2024-12-11 10:56, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>>
>> So it's about bragging rights again.
> 
> 
> "Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
> over macOS.

LOL!

> 
> 
>>> They depend on
>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>
>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
> 
> 
> Microsoft is more full-service.

Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?

What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs 
to get his or her tasks done.

And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same 
software) is available for macOS.

> 
> 
>>> I actually enjoyed
>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>> Again with the "quirky".
> 
> 
> Yep, wear it.
> 

Not until you define it.

> 
>> I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that
>> while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost
>> never see them anymore.
>>
>> Because their Macs work that well.
> 
> 
> Well, I support my own computer.

Bully for you.

Most people who run Windows cannot.

Where most Mac users rarely NEED support...

...because they just work.

> 

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#191830

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 14:19 -0500
Message-ID<v5pjlj9v73kl21ssi0oq4l94pheo118720@4ax.com>
In reply to#191827
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>>>
>>> So it's about bragging rights again.
>> 
>> "Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
>> over macOS.
>
>LOL!


You laugh but it's self-evident.  As ridiculous as Wintendo OS is, it
does an amazing job of being what it is.  High-end PCs can benefit
from M$'s tinkering.


>>>> They depend on
>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>
>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>> 
>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>
>Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>
>What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs 
>to get his or her tasks done.
>
>And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same 
>software) is available for macOS.


Simple people like simple things, I suppose.


>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>> Again with the "quirky".
>> 
>> Yep, wear it.
>
>Not until you define it.


It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.


>>> I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that
>>> while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost
>>> never see them anymore.
>>>
>>> Because their Macs work that well.
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I support my own computer.
>
>Bully for you.
>
>Most people who run Windows cannot.
>
>Where most Mac users rarely NEED support...
>
>...because they just work.


Why don't they grow enough of a brain to teach themselves something?

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191831

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 11:22 -0800
Message-ID<vjcopm$1mcuj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191830
On 2024-12-11 11:19, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>>>>
>>>> So it's about bragging rights again.
>>>
>>> "Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
>>> over macOS.
>>
>> LOL!
> 
> 
> You laugh but it's self-evident.  As ridiculous as Wintendo OS is, it
> does an amazing job of being what it is.  High-end PCs can benefit
> from M$'s tinkering.

Give an example.

> 
> 
>>>>> They depend on
>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>>
>>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>>>
>>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>>
>> Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>>
>> What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs
>> to get his or her tasks done.
>>
>> And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same
>> software) is available for macOS.
> 
> 
> Simple people like simple things, I suppose.

What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?

> 
> 
>>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>>> Again with the "quirky".
>>>
>>> Yep, wear it.
>>
>> Not until you define it.
> 
> 
> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.

That's another non-answer.

> 
> 
>>>> I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that
>>>> while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost
>>>> never see them anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Because their Macs work that well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I support my own computer.
>>
>> Bully for you.
>>
>> Most people who run Windows cannot.
>>
>> Where most Mac users rarely NEED support...
>>
>> ...because they just work.
> 
> 
> Why don't they grow enough of a brain to teach themselves something?
They just use their computers, doofus.

They do exactly the same things most Windows users do...

...but they get it done with many fewer problems.

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#191832

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 14:38 -0500
Message-ID<b8qjljdnd1ehmmbcsrj2oqu38ir9kk1hfi@4ax.com>
In reply to#191831
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it's about bragging rights again.
>>>>
>>>> "Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
>>>> over macOS.
>>>
>>> LOL!
>> 
>> You laugh but it's self-evident.  As ridiculous as Wintendo OS is, it
>> does an amazing job of being what it is.  High-end PCs can benefit
>> from M$'s tinkering.
>
>Give an example.


Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
for others, but they often overlook it.


>>>>>> They depend on
>>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>>>
>>> Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>>>
>>> What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs
>>> to get his or her tasks done.
>>>
>>> And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same
>>> software) is available for macOS.
>> 
>> Simple people like simple things, I suppose.
>
>What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?


Nothing.


>>>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>>>> Again with the "quirky".
>>>>
>>>> Yep, wear it.
>>>
>>> Not until you define it.
>> 
>> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.
>
>That's another non-answer.


I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
programmers put in.


>>>>> I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that
>>>>> while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost
>>>>> never see them anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because their Macs work that well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I support my own computer.
>>>
>>> Bully for you.
>>>
>>> Most people who run Windows cannot.
>>>
>>> Where most Mac users rarely NEED support...
>>>
>>> ...because they just work.
>> 
>> Why don't they grow enough of a brain to teach themselves something?
>They just use their computers, doofus.
>
>They do exactly the same things most Windows users do...
>
>...but they get it done with many fewer problems.


I'm saying if they're having problems with a computer, they should
learn how to correct it, instead of being a sissy and getting tech
support.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191864

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-11 15:42 -0500
Message-ID<vjctg6$1ljtr$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191832
On 12/11/24 2:38 PM, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> It matters that Apple is secondary in the industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it's about bragging rights again.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bragging rights" that engender superior products, namely Winblows
>>>>> over macOS.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> You laugh but it's self-evident.  As ridiculous as Wintendo OS is, it
>>> does an amazing job of being what it is.  High-end PCs can benefit
>>> from M$'s tinkering.
>>
>> Give an example.
> 
> 
> Well, boot Win11 24H2 on a nice 13th gen i7, and you have a great
> experience.  That's what Microsoft supports.  Linux is the solution
> for others, but they often overlook it.
> 
> 
>>>>>>> They depend on
>>>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe to develop applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple makes computers and other computing devices and the operating
>>>>>> systems for those devices along with many applications to run on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft is more full-service.
>>>>
>>>> Again... ...to the END USER, how does that matter?
>>>>
>>>> What matters is that the END USER can find the software he or she needs
>>>> to get his or her tasks done.
>>>>
>>>> And for almost every ordinary task, that software (often the exact same
>>>> software) is available for macOS.
>>>
>>> Simple people like simple things, I suppose.
>>
>> What's a complex thing that can't be done on a Mac?
> 
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> 
>>>>>>> I actually enjoyed
>>>>>>> seeing the free trial of M$ Office for Mac.  Showed it to my mom,
>>>>>>> who's always used Office for Winblows.  The Mac version of Office is
>>>>>>> actually great software.  And I imagine Adobe's stuff is pretty great
>>>>>>> on it, and the movie editing, etc.  But for a typical PC user, posting
>>>>>>> on Usenet everyday, macOS is a quirky choice.
>>>>>> Again with the "quirky".
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, wear it.
>>>>
>>>> Not until you define it.
>>>
>>> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.
>>
>> That's another non-answer.
> 
> 
> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
> programmers put in.

How is the Finder's GUI so materially different from MS-Windows's?

Certainly its not so trivial as how the File Explorer buttons are on the 
top right, but in Finder they're on the top left?


>>>>>> I support computer users for a living, and what I can tell you is that
>>>>>> while I technically have quite a few clients who use Macs, I almost
>>>>>> never see them anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because their Macs work that well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I support my own computer.
>>>>
>>>> Bully for you.
>>>>
>>>> Most people who run Windows cannot.
>>>>
>>>> Where most Mac users rarely NEED support...
>>>>
>>>> ...because they just work.
>>>
>>> Why don't they grow enough of a brain to teach themselves something?
>> They just use their computers, doofus.
>>
>> They do exactly the same things most Windows users do...
>>
>> ...but they get it done with many fewer problems.
> 
> I'm saying if they're having problems with a computer, they should
> learn how to correct it, instead of being a sissy and getting tech
> support.

You've clearly never professionally run a team:  success comes from 
keeping one's high value workers focused on where they bring the 
greatest value, not being distracted by lower-valued tasks.  This isn't 
being a "sissy", but is straightforward resource optimization by 
delegating the bullshit lower-value stuff to other personnel.

Just like how one assigns cleaning the bathroom to the janitor.


-hh

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#191869

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 13:33 -0800
Message-ID<vjd0ei$1noq5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191864
On 2024-12-11 12:42, -hh wrote:
>>>> It's self-evident, Apple supplies a quirky corner of the market.
>>>
>>> That's another non-answer.
>>
>>
>> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
>> programmers put in.
> 
> How is the Finder's GUI so materially different from MS-Windows's?
> 
> Certainly its not so trivial as how the File Explorer buttons are on the 
> top right, but in Finder they're on the top left?

Yes, well.

The one thing you'll never get from Joel is specific answer to 
questions like that.

:-)

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#191874

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-11 18:03 -0500
Message-ID<lg6kljhbs2estkn16bbg9vu3f6i5a2ockb@4ax.com>
In reply to#191869
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2024-12-11 12:42, -hh wrote:
>>> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
>>> programmers put in.
>> 
>> How is the Finder's GUI so materially different from MS-Windows's?
>> 
>> Certainly its not so trivial as how the File Explorer buttons are on the 
>> top right, but in Finder they're on the top left?
>
>Yes, well.
>
>The one thing you'll never get from Joel is specific answer to 
>questions like that.
>
>:-)


It's about the degree of feature implementation, Apple is lightweight.
Without M$ Office and Adobe, and movie editing, Apple would be
nothing.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#191877

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-11 15:22 -0800
Message-ID<vjd6s4$1p2oa$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#191874
On 2024-12-11 15:03, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-12-11 12:42, -hh wrote:
>>>> I was blown away by Finder.  Really amusing, how little effort Apple's
>>>> programmers put in.
>>>
>>> How is the Finder's GUI so materially different from MS-Windows's?
>>>
>>> Certainly its not so trivial as how the File Explorer buttons are on the
>>> top right, but in Finder they're on the top left?
>>
>> Yes, well.
>>
>> The one thing you'll never get from Joel is specific answer to
>> questions like that.
>>
>> :-)
> 
> 
> It's about the degree of feature implementation, Apple is lightweight.
> Without M$ Office and Adobe, and movie editing, Apple would be
> nothing.
Without application software ANY personal computer is nothing.

And the fact that Microsoft also happens to be an application writer is 
neither here nor there to the issue of the quality of the Mac and its 
operating system.

And BTW: hands down, one of the very best movie editing packages in the 
world is Final Cut Pro...

...produced by Apple.

<https://fcp.cafe/cut-on-fcp/>

As one of the finest music production packages is Logic Pro...

...produced by Apple.

Answer his question:

How is the Finder's GUI materially different (and implicitly lacking)?

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