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| Started by | M-M <nospam@ny.more> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2016-09-13 12:27 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-09-17 14:45 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 202 — 22 participants |
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iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-13 12:27 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 12:43 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 12:36 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 13:30 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 16:49 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 14:14 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 21:21 +0000
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 17:25 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 17:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 14:34 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 17:24 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 14:59 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 18:02 -0400
Re: iOS 10 MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-13 20:09 -0400
Re: iOS 10 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-15 20:17 +1200
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 00:09 +0000
Re: iOS 10 ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 11:48 -0500
Re: iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-13 13:18 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 05:17 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 13:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-13 13:45 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 12:50 -0500
Re: iOS 10 "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 22:10 +0100
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 05:18 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 15:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 05:51 +1000
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 00:14 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 12:48 -0700
Re: iOS 10 MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-13 17:43 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 00:11 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 20:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 09:33 +0000
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:26 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 15:07 -0400
Re: iOS 10 ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 14:12 -0500
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 00:18 +0000
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 20:51 -0400
Re: iOS 10 ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:21 -0500
Re: iOS 10 ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:23 -0500
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 15:05 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 23:04 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 09:34 +0000
Re: iOS 10 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-15 09:21 +1200
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 19:13 +0000
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 18:00 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 22:26 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 22:36 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 00:17 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 01:02 +0000
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:19 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 01:06 +0000
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 03:49 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 13:41 -0400
Re: iOS 10 BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-09-14 13:26 -0500
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 15:05 -0400
Re: iOS 10 MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-16 01:42 -0400
Re: iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-13 22:44 -0400
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 03:51 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 05:41 -0400
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 06:18 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 13:46 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 13:54 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 17:58 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 14:08 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 08:00 +0000
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 05:41 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 15:16 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 19:21 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-13 15:31 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 20:01 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-14 00:20 +0000
Re: iOS 10 MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-13 21:53 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-13 12:28 -0700
Re: iOS 10 "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 22:09 +0100
Re: iOS 10 Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-14 12:53 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 13:09 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 04:11 +1000
Re: iOS 10 Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-14 15:01 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 15:06 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-14 18:39 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 18:40 -0400
Re: iOS 10 AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-14 12:09 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 15:46 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-14 13:28 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 15:33 -0500
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 16:40 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 07:58 +1000
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 22:22 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 22:04 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 13:45 +1000
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 00:26 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-14 10:18 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 12:21 -0500
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 13:59 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 13:57 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-14 11:05 -0700
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 04:39 +1000
Re: iOS 10 Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-14 15:02 -0400
Re: iOS 10 briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2016-09-14 17:24 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-14 14:03 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-14 14:08 -0400
Re: iOS 10 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-15 09:25 +1200
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 18:10 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-14 16:43 -0700
Re: iOS 10 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-09-14 17:24 -0700
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-15 00:54 -0400
Re: iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-15 20:22 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-16 17:32 -0400
Re: iOS 10 John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-09-16 22:40 -0700
Re: iOS 10 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-16 12:04 +1200
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-15 17:18 -0700
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-16 17:29 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-16 23:18 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-16 20:36 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-16 17:46 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 06:48 +0000
Re: iOS 10 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-17 13:36 +1200
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 04:41 +1000
Re: iOS 10 briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2016-09-14 22:44 +0000
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 19:24 -0400
Re: iOS 10 MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-16 01:56 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-15 10:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-15 07:50 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-15 11:30 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-15 08:56 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 19:26 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-15 13:37 -0700
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 17:47 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 16:50 -0500
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 19:26 +0000
Re: iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-15 20:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-15 21:44 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-15 19:00 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-15 22:03 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-15 19:09 -0700
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 02:08 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-16 14:30 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 09:32 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 18:07 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 18:08 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 22:35 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 19:02 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 23:50 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 14:41 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-16 14:28 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 09:34 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 10:12 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 10:20 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 10:33 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 10:58 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 11:56 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 15:25 -0400
Re: iOS 10 M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-18 22:18 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 18:07 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 22:34 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 19:01 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 23:49 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-18 13:43 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-18 18:19 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-18 17:51 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-18 18:21 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 08:57 +1000
Re: iOS 10 Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-18 19:02 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-18 19:35 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 10:05 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-19 00:14 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 15:02 +1000
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 08:49 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 23:26 -0400
Re: iOS 10 BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-09-18 12:16 -0500
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 18:37 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 19:16 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 23:03 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-19 16:53 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-19 17:52 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-19 18:03 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-19 18:10 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-19 19:51 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-19 20:42 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-20 15:33 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:36 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 15:02 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 18:09 +0000
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 18:33 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 22:41 +0000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 23:19 -0400
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:47 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-18 05:49 +0000
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 15:49 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-18 20:19 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-17 14:51 +0000
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 18:07 -0400
Re: iOS 10 AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-17 15:21 -0700
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 18:37 -0400
Re: iOS 10 Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-17 19:17 -0400
Re: iOS 10 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 23:03 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 23:28 -0400
Re: iOS 10 FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 00:48 -0400
Re: iOS 10 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 11:34 +1000
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 14:51 -0400
Re: iOS 10 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-17 14:45 -0400
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-17 18:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xuudnSBRGPV2I0DKnZ2dnUU7-XWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92495 |
On 2016-09-17 14:07, Jolly Roger wrote: > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-09-15 22:00, Savageduck wrote: >>> On 2016-09-16 01:44:37 +0000, Alan Browne >>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> said: >>>> >>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >>>> first place. >>> >>> The only major change I have found is Apple dropping the PPTP VPN >> >> My issue on .0 releases is you never know what the bug may be. A bug >> that screws up the phone or an important function of it is a non-starer >> for me. > > One could argue that these days the public betas give us a better idea of > existing bugs. Surely. Or I can wait, not miss much by doing so and catch up later. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 22:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e45uqdF5a9cU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92508 |
On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-09-17 14:07, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-09-15 22:00, Savageduck wrote: >>>> On 2016-09-16 01:44:37 +0000, Alan Browne >>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> said: >>>>> >>>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >>>>> first place. >>>> >>>> The only major change I have found is Apple dropping the PPTP VPN >>> >>> My issue on .0 releases is you never know what the bug may be. A bug >>> that screws up the phone or an important function of it is a non-starer >>> for me. >> >> One could argue that these days the public betas give us a better idea of >> existing bugs. > > Surely. Or I can wait, not miss much by doing so and catch up later. You should do what makes you comfortable, of course. Others can feel free to do as they wish as well. Everyone happy now? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 19:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <OpCdnWfXh4UbVkDKnZ2dnUU7-Y-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92513 |
On 2016-09-17 18:35, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-09-17 14:07, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2016-09-15 22:00, Savageduck wrote: >>>>> On 2016-09-16 01:44:37 +0000, Alan Browne >>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> said: >>>>>> >>>>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >>>>>> first place. >>>>> >>>>> The only major change I have found is Apple dropping the PPTP VPN >>>> >>>> My issue on .0 releases is you never know what the bug may be. A bug >>>> that screws up the phone or an important function of it is a non-starer >>>> for me. >>> >>> One could argue that these days the public betas give us a better idea of >>> existing bugs. >> >> Surely. Or I can wait, not miss much by doing so and catch up later. > > You should do what makes you comfortable, of course. Others can feel > free to do as they wish as well. Everyone happy now? No. Obey me and be happy. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 23:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e4635pF66c1U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92520 |
On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-09-17 18:35, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-09-17 14:07, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2016-09-15 22:00, Savageduck wrote: >>>>>> On 2016-09-16 01:44:37 +0000, Alan Browne >>>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >>>>>>> first place. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only major change I have found is Apple dropping the PPTP VPN >>>>> >>>>> My issue on .0 releases is you never know what the bug may be. A bug >>>>> that screws up the phone or an important function of it is a non-starer >>>>> for me. >>>> >>>> One could argue that these days the public betas give us a better idea of >>>> existing bugs. >>> >>> Surely. Or I can wait, not miss much by doing so and catch up later. >> >> You should do what makes you comfortable, of course. Others can feel >> free to do as they wish as well. Everyone happy now? > > No. Obey me and be happy. Pffft. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 14:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <57dd8e59$0$1643$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #92474 |
On 2016-09-17 09:32, Alan Browne wrote: > My issue on .0 releases is you never know what the bug may be. In my case, I got bitten once with iTunes allowing my phone to be upgraded, only to find out afterwards that the same iTunes would refuse to connect (and being on Snow Leopard I could not upgrade iTunes). I was able to get the prevous .ipsw and DFU install it onto my iPhone, and the only reason it worked was that because I made that attempt on the day or or a day after launch, Apple was still signing the older versions. So while the odds of bugs are higher on .0 releases, you are able to test and revert to previous version when you do this right away, but if you wait long enough, you can't. Except fopr "Mail" no longer beeping when it gets new mail, the rest seems pretty stable for my type of use. This just in: Yeah !!!! Apple finally fixed it in IOS 10: When taking photo (live pics: off) music now continues to play. YUGE improvement!
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-09-16 14:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnto0br.2maq.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #92348 |
In message <9dqdnURfg7wb00bKnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-09-15 20:26, M-M wrote: >> In article <iqOdnWwIgfnlMkfKnZ2dnUU7-fGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> Best practice is to wait for others to discover the almost inevitable >>> bugs in the .0 version before updating. >> >> Wait? >> Never. >> I've been updating on day one since System 7. >> If there ever was a glitch, it was resolved immediately. > Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the > first place. Then you may as well end it all now. There will always be glitches. -- "Remember -- that which does not kill us can only make us stronger." "And that which *does* kill us leaves us *dead*!"
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 09:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <BKidnUo6Mbju20DKnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92374 |
On 2016-09-16 10:28, Lewis wrote: > In message <9dqdnURfg7wb00bKnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-09-15 20:26, M-M wrote: >>> In article <iqOdnWwIgfnlMkfKnZ2dnUU7-fGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Best practice is to wait for others to discover the almost inevitable >>>> bugs in the .0 version before updating. >>> >>> Wait? >>> Never. >>> I've been updating on day one since System 7. >>> If there ever was a glitch, it was resolved immediately. > >> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >> first place. > > Then you may as well end it all now. There will always be glitches. Not at all. The .0 glitches can be bad - and there's no urgency in getting the major update anyway. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 10:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170920161012541470%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #92475 |
In article <BKidnUo6Mbju20DKnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the > >> first place. > > > > Then you may as well end it all now. There will always be glitches. > > Not at all. The .0 glitches can be bad - they 'can be' but with ios 10 they aren't. > and there's no urgency in > getting the major update anyway. maybe for you, but for others it's *well* worth it. <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ios-10-reviewed-theres-no-reason-n ot-to-update/10/#h5> All in all, though, iOS 10 is a good update with a lot to offer and there¹s really no reason not to install it on any hardware that can run it. It doesn¹t murder your battery, it doesn¹t hurt performance too badly. It takes up more storage space, but that¹s been a fact of life for every iOS update for years now. I¹ve been running it on my actual production iPhone and iPad for the last month and a half, and the GM build seems stable. App updates are already rolling out. There really isn¹t much of a downside.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 10:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <suSdnVOPwsXVzEDKnZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92478 |
On 2016-09-17 10:12, nospam wrote: > In article <BKidnUo6Mbju20DKnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>> >>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >>>> first place. >>> >>> Then you may as well end it all now. There will always be glitches. >> >> Not at all. The .0 glitches can be bad - > > they 'can be' but with ios 10 they aren't. The logic fail there is I have no idea if there are glitches when the new iOS comes out. I really am not chomping at the bit to get it. I'm quite content to let the eager beavers discover terra incognita for me. Also of course, 10 is already at 10.0.1 - something went boink. > >> and there's no urgency in >> getting the major update anyway. > > maybe for you, but for others it's *well* worth it. > > <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ios-10-reviewed-theres-no-reason-n > ot-to-update/10/#h5> > All in all, though, iOS 10 is a good update with a lot to offer and > there¹s really no reason not to install it on any hardware that can > run it. It doesn¹t murder your battery, it doesn¹t hurt performance > too badly. It takes up more storage space, but that¹s been a fact of > life for every iOS update for years now. I¹ve been running it on my > actual production iPhone and iPad for the last month and a half, and > the GM build seems stable. App updates are already rolling out. There > really isn¹t much of a downside. Nor is there any upside at all that will improve my life or use of the phone in any way significant to me or mankind until I eventually get around to it. Oh, and there's this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/15/people-are-complaining-that-ios-10-is-slowing-their-iphones-down/ This is near classic - and usually takes Apple a couple iterations to identify the bottlenecks and get the worst speed bumps out. Colour me patient. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 10:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170920161033245301%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #92479 |
In article <suSdnVOPwsXVzEDKnZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the > >>>> first place. > >>> > >>> Then you may as well end it all now. There will always be glitches. > >> > >> Not at all. The .0 glitches can be bad - > > > > they 'can be' but with ios 10 they aren't. > > The logic fail there is I have no idea if there are glitches when the > new iOS comes out. I really am not chomping at the bit to get it. I'm > quite content to let the eager beavers discover terra incognita for me. then wait a day and find out if there's anything major. there was a glitch for an hour, long since fixed. other than that, it's smooth sailing. however, nothing is perfect and out over 250 million current users, there will be a few with minor issues. > Also of course, 10 is already at 10.0.1 - something went boink. that happened *before* it was released. the golden master last week was 10.0.1. > >> and there's no urgency in > >> getting the major update anyway. > > > > maybe for you, but for others it's *well* worth it. > > > > <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ios-10-reviewed-theres-no-reason-n > > ot-to-update/10/#h5> > > All in all, though, iOS 10 is a good update with a lot to offer and > > there1s really no reason not to install it on any hardware that can > > run it. It doesn1t murder your battery, it doesn1t hurt performance > > too badly. It takes up more storage space, but that1s been a fact of > > life for every iOS update for years now. I1ve been running it on my > > actual production iPhone and iPad for the last month and a half, and > > the GM build seems stable. App updates are already rolling out. There > > really isn1t much of a downside. > > Nor is there any upside at all that will improve my life or use of the > phone in any way significant to me or mankind until I eventually get > around to it. maybe it won't for you, but it does for others. watchos 3 alone is worth it, as is apple's homekit app (the third party ones suck, anywhere from a little to complete garbage). <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/13/100-best-new-ios-10-features/> > Oh, and there's this: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/15/people-are-complaining-that-i > os-10-is-slowing-their-iphones-down/ > > This is near classic - and usually takes Apple a couple iterations to > identify the bottlenecks and get the worst speed bumps out. nothing but linkbait. the 'slowdown' happens because it's reindexing everything, scanning photos for scene recognition, etc. once that completes, the problem goes away, but explaining that doesn't make for good linkbait. > Colour me patient. i colour you a troll.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 10:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92480 |
On 2016-09-17 10:33, nospam wrote: > In article <suSdnVOPwsXVzEDKnZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>>> Immediately doesn't cut it for me. I don't want the glitch(es) in the >>>>>> first place. >>>>> >>>>> Then you may as well end it all now. There will always be glitches. >>>> >>>> Not at all. The .0 glitches can be bad - >>> >>> they 'can be' but with ios 10 they aren't. >> >> The logic fail there is I have no idea if there are glitches when the >> new iOS comes out. I really am not chomping at the bit to get it. I'm >> quite content to let the eager beavers discover terra incognita for me. > > then wait a day and find out if there's anything major. > > there was a glitch for an hour, long since fixed. other than that, it's > smooth sailing. > > however, nothing is perfect and out over 250 million current users, > there will be a few with minor issues. > >> Also of course, 10 is already at 10.0.1 - something went boink. > > that happened *before* it was released. > > the golden master last week was 10.0.1. > >>>> and there's no urgency in >>>> getting the major update anyway. >>> >>> maybe for you, but for others it's *well* worth it. >>> >>> <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ios-10-reviewed-theres-no-reason-n >>> ot-to-update/10/#h5> >>> All in all, though, iOS 10 is a good update with a lot to offer and >>> there1s really no reason not to install it on any hardware that can >>> run it. It doesn1t murder your battery, it doesn1t hurt performance >>> too badly. It takes up more storage space, but that1s been a fact of >>> life for every iOS update for years now. I1ve been running it on my >>> actual production iPhone and iPad for the last month and a half, and >>> the GM build seems stable. App updates are already rolling out. There >>> really isn1t much of a downside. >> >> Nor is there any upside at all that will improve my life or use of the >> phone in any way significant to me or mankind until I eventually get >> around to it. > > maybe it won't for you, but it does for others. There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are great, they are not urgently needed. etc. I guess I'm one of those who uses my iPhone as a tool for work (first) and as a life utility/entertainment far less. As a tool, with iOS 9, all is quite well and I'll update to 10 in my own good time when I'm satisfied it won't cause any issues. I've also got the increasingly troublesome touch disease on my iPhone 6. Genius appointment for Monday. Though now I might just walk in and ask them for a tradeup to the 7+ and see where the chips fall. > watchos 3 alone is worth it, as is apple's homekit app (the third party > ones suck, anywhere from a little to complete garbage). Since I haven't been overwhelmed with a need for the Apple Watch nor have I bought any homekit using devices, that's pretty moot. > > <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/13/100-best-new-ios-10-features/> > >> Oh, and there's this: >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/15/people-are-complaining-that-i >> os-10-is-slowing-their-iphones-down/ >> >> This is near classic - and usually takes Apple a couple iterations to >> identify the bottlenecks and get the worst speed bumps out. > > nothing but linkbait. > > the 'slowdown' happens because it's reindexing everything, scanning > photos for scene recognition, etc. Reference please? Sounds plausible. > > once that completes, the problem goes away, but explaining that doesn't > make for good linkbait. > >> Colour me patient. > > i colour you a troll. Not at all. Just pragmatic and not at all impressed with incremental improvements to the iPhone as some are. Further I've ordered an iPhone 7 for my SO to replace her 4S. Would a troll do that? Really? -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 11:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <170920161156093143%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #92485 |
In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>> and there's no urgency in > >>>> getting the major update anyway. > >>> > >>> maybe for you, but for others it's *well* worth it. > >>> > >>> <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ios-10-reviewed-theres-no-reason-n > >>> ot-to-update/10/#h5> > >>> All in all, though, iOS 10 is a good update with a lot to offer and > >>> there1s really no reason not to install it on any hardware that can > >>> run it. It doesn1t murder your battery, it doesn1t hurt performance > >>> too badly. It takes up more storage space, but that1s been a fact of > >>> life for every iOS update for years now. I1ve been running it on my > >>> actual production iPhone and iPad for the last month and a half, and > >>> the GM build seems stable. App updates are already rolling out. There > >>> really isn1t much of a downside. > >> > >> Nor is there any upside at all that will improve my life or use of the > >> phone in any way significant to me or mankind until I eventually get > >> around to it. > > > > maybe it won't for you, but it does for others. > > There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an > emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome > - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are > great, they are not urgently needed. etc. nonsense. ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. > I guess I'm one of those who uses my iPhone as a tool for work (first) > and as a life utility/entertainment far less. As a tool, with iOS 9, > all is quite well and I'll update to 10 in my own good time when I'm > satisfied it won't cause any issues. that's fine, but don't expect others to do that. > I've also got the increasingly troublesome touch disease on my iPhone 6. > Genius appointment for Monday. Though now I might just walk in and > ask them for a tradeup to the 7+ and see where the chips fall. that would go against your philosophy against environmental waste. > > watchos 3 alone is worth it, as is apple's homekit app (the third party > > ones suck, anywhere from a little to complete garbage). > > Since I haven't been overwhelmed with a need for the Apple Watch nor > have I bought any homekit using devices, that's pretty moot. to you, perhaps but to many others, it's major. those are just two of *numerous* improvements, listed here: > > <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/13/100-best-new-ios-10-features/> certainly there's *something* there that you might find beneficial, and more than an 'emotional thrill'. > >> Oh, and there's this: > >> > >> > >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/15/people-are-complaining-tha > >> t-i > >> os-10-is-slowing-their-iphones-down/ > >> > >> This is near classic - and usually takes Apple a couple iterations to > >> identify the bottlenecks and get the worst speed bumps out. > > > > nothing but linkbait. > > > > the 'slowdown' happens because it's reindexing everything, scanning > > photos for scene recognition, etc. > > Reference please? Sounds plausible. many apple related sites discuss it and the mere fact that the whining stops in a couple of days. every year it's the same shit, "it's so slow and my battery drains so fast", then a day or two later they all realize it was just temporary and stop bitching. people like to complain. ios 9 was actually *faster* than ios 8 on the same hardware, yet people complained it was slower. > > once that completes, the problem goes away, but explaining that doesn't > > make for good linkbait. > > > > >> Colour me patient. > > > > i colour you a troll. > > Not at all. Just pragmatic and not at all impressed with incremental > improvements to the iPhone as some are. you relish in apple problems, from bendgate (another completely bogus and fabricated issue) to touch id repairs, update issues and much more. nothing is perfect. as a previous poster said, everything has glitches. apple is no different. > Further I've ordered an iPhone > 7 for my SO to replace her 4S. Would a troll do that? Really? the fact that she still has a 4s says a lot.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 15:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <57dd98c3$0$51764$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #92488 |
Not mentioned is the new magnifiying glass in IOS 10. (Enabled via the geriatric menu (Setup -> General -> Accessibility). Can't read the bill in a dark restaurant ? Tripple click on home button and voila. In Camera another huge improvement. they moved the useless and annoying "Filters" button out of the way. All too oten finger would touch it when trying to change mode or press shutter.
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| From | M-M <nospam@ny.more> |
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| Date | 2016-09-18 22:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <180920162218515596%nospam@ny.more> |
| In reply to | #92502 |
In article <57dd98c3$0$51764$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Not mentioned is the new magnifiying glass in IOS 10. > > (Enabled via the geriatric menu (Setup -> General -> Accessibility). > > Can't read the bill in a dark restaurant ? Tripple click on home button > and voila. Wow! Thanks for that tip!! -- m-m http://www.mhmyers.com
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 18:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <B6GdncumZPIHI0DKnZ2dnUU7-SfNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92488 |
On 2016-09-17 11:56, nospam wrote: > In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>>> and there's no urgency in >>>>>> getting the major update anyway. >>>>> >>>>> maybe for you, but for others it's *well* worth it. >>>>> >>>>> <http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ios-10-reviewed-theres-no-reason-n >>>>> ot-to-update/10/#h5> >>>>> All in all, though, iOS 10 is a good update with a lot to offer and >>>>> there1s really no reason not to install it on any hardware that can >>>>> run it. It doesn1t murder your battery, it doesn1t hurt performance >>>>> too badly. It takes up more storage space, but that1s been a fact of >>>>> life for every iOS update for years now. I1ve been running it on my >>>>> actual production iPhone and iPad for the last month and a half, and >>>>> the GM build seems stable. App updates are already rolling out. There >>>>> really isn1t much of a downside. >>>> >>>> Nor is there any upside at all that will improve my life or use of the >>>> phone in any way significant to me or mankind until I eventually get >>>> around to it. >>> >>> maybe it won't for you, but it does for others. >> >> There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an >> emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome >> - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are >> great, they are not urgently needed. etc. > > nonsense. > > ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. You misunderstand what I mean. The "thrill" is people eager to upgrade iOS when there is no urgency at all to do so. >> I guess I'm one of those who uses my iPhone as a tool for work (first) >> and as a life utility/entertainment far less. As a tool, with iOS 9, >> all is quite well and I'll update to 10 in my own good time when I'm >> satisfied it won't cause any issues. > > that's fine, but don't expect others to do that. > >> I've also got the increasingly troublesome touch disease on my iPhone 6. >> Genius appointment for Monday. Though now I might just walk in and >> ask them for a tradeup to the 7+ and see where the chips fall. > > that would go against your philosophy against environmental waste. Such philosophies are easy to follow as long as things work. When they are failing they cause waste of time and gas running around to get them fixed. If Apple want to charge me some outrageous amount to fix (or replace) my iPhone, then I might as well jump to the next one and avoid a replay of the same failure. >>> watchos 3 alone is worth it, as is apple's homekit app (the third party >>> ones suck, anywhere from a little to complete garbage). >> >> Since I haven't been overwhelmed with a need for the Apple Watch nor >> have I bought any homekit using devices, that's pretty moot. > > to you, perhaps but to many others, it's major. > > those are just two of *numerous* improvements, listed here: > >>> <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/09/13/100-best-new-ios-10-features/> > > certainly there's *something* there that you might find beneficial, and > more than an 'emotional thrill'. There will be a few for sure. I just don't abolutely need them now. I can wait a week or 2 or 3. >>>> Oh, and there's this: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/15/people-are-complaining-tha >>>> t-i >>>> os-10-is-slowing-their-iphones-down/ >>>> >>>> This is near classic - and usually takes Apple a couple iterations to >>>> identify the bottlenecks and get the worst speed bumps out. >>> >>> nothing but linkbait. >>> >>> the 'slowdown' happens because it's reindexing everything, scanning >>> photos for scene recognition, etc. >> >> Reference please? Sounds plausible. > > many apple related sites discuss it and the mere fact that the whining > stops in a couple of days. > > every year it's the same shit, "it's so slow and my battery drains so > fast", then a day or two later they all realize it was just temporary > and stop bitching. > > people like to complain. > > ios 9 was actually *faster* than ios 8 on the same hardware, yet people > complained it was slower. > I asked you for a reference to the "reindexing". None provided. Fact is (as past linked videos have shown) each iOS iteration makes older iPhones perceptibly (and annoyingly slower). I doubt iOS 10 will impact the 6 very much but iOS 11 will probably be the last update I'll install on it. >>> once that completes, the problem goes away, but explaining that doesn't >>> make for good linkbait. >> >>> >>>> Colour me patient. >>> >>> i colour you a troll. >> >> Not at all. Just pragmatic and not at all impressed with incremental >> improvements to the iPhone as some are. > > you relish in apple problems, from bendgate (another completely bogus > and fabricated issue) to touch id repairs, update issues and much more. At some point I put up links to the bending modulus of each model ... the worst was iPhone 6+. In the end bendgate *IS* an issue as it *IS* the root cause of the touch disease. Mostly on the 6+ as it is the weakest of them all. Apple improved the strength of the 6S/6S+ in the weak area (near the side button holes) when it came out. Not for nothing after all. It will become a latent defect issue for them. > > nothing is perfect. as a previous poster said, everything has glitches. > apple is no different. > >> Further I've ordered an iPhone >> 7 for my SO to replace her 4S. Would a troll do that? Really? > > the fact that she still has a 4s says a lot. Yes, the damn thing is rigid as hell compared to the 6 series. Her needs are much more modest than the iPhone groupies here. She'd be happy to keep it but the battery is needing more frequent charges (could be replaced) but she's finding some functions slower too. Time to move on. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 22:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e45unmF5a9cU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92507 |
On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-09-17 11:56, nospam wrote: >> In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>> There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an >>> emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome >>> - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are >>> great, they are not urgently needed. etc. >> >> nonsense. >> >> ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. > > You misunderstand what I mean. Or maybe you worded it really badly. Your statement that "There is nothing about iOS that is important to anyone except on an emotional thrill scale" seems to be the source of confusion here. It's certainly confusing to me. > The "thrill" is people eager to upgrade iOS when there is no urgency > at all to do so. I don't see how you can realistically decide for others whether or not the new features are important to them. And claiming anyone who appreciates those new features is an "emotional thrill" seeker seems quite disingenuous to me. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 19:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <OpCdnWTXh4WpVkDKnZ2dnUU7-Y_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92511 |
On 2016-09-17 18:34, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-09-17 11:56, nospam wrote: >>> In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an >>>> emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome >>>> - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are >>>> great, they are not urgently needed. etc. >>> >>> nonsense. >>> >>> ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. >> >> You misunderstand what I mean. > > Or maybe you worded it really badly. Your statement that "There is > nothing about iOS that is important to anyone except on an emotional > thrill scale" seems to be the source of confusion here. It's certainly > confusing to me. What, if anything, is important about iOS 10 v iOS 9? > >> The "thrill" is people eager to upgrade iOS when there is no urgency >> at all to do so. > > I don't see how you can realistically decide for others whether > or not the new features are important to them. And claiming anyone who > appreciates those new features is an "emotional thrill" seeker seems > quite disingenuous to me. It's how I see it. I never asked anyone to agree with me. Just stated my opinion about it: "Best practice is to wait for others to discover the almost inevitable bugs in the .0 version before updating." Just insert "IMO" at the start of that. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 23:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e46352F66c1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92519 |
On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-09-17 18:34, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-09-17 11:56, nospam wrote: >>>> In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an >>>>> emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome >>>>> - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are >>>>> great, they are not urgently needed. etc. >>>> >>>> nonsense. >>>> >>>> ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. >>> >>> You misunderstand what I mean. >> >> Or maybe you worded it really badly. Your statement that "There is >> nothing about iOS that is important to anyone except on an emotional >> thrill scale" seems to be the source of confusion here. It's >> certainly confusing to me. > > What, if anything, is important about iOS 10 v iOS 9? I don't think anyone needs to justify which features they feel are important to you. It's one thing to say the features aren't important to *you*, but quite another thing to state they aren't important to *anyone* else. If someone feels the new Home app with HomeKit capabilities is important for their home automation and security needs, your feelings on the matter are irrelevant. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-09-18 13:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qeGdndz4pNvIT0PKnZ2dnUU7-W2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92524 |
On 2016-09-17 19:49, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2016-09-17 18:34, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2016-09-17 11:56, nospam wrote: >>>>> In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an >>>>>> emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome >>>>>> - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are >>>>>> great, they are not urgently needed. etc. >>>>> >>>>> nonsense. >>>>> >>>>> ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. >>>> >>>> You misunderstand what I mean. >>> >>> Or maybe you worded it really badly. Your statement that "There is >>> nothing about iOS that is important to anyone except on an emotional >>> thrill scale" seems to be the source of confusion here. It's >>> certainly confusing to me. >> >> What, if anything, is important about iOS 10 v iOS 9? > > I don't think anyone needs to justify which features they feel are > important to you. It's one thing to say the features aren't important to > *you*, but quite another thing to state they aren't important to > *anyone* else. If someone feels the new Home app with HomeKit > capabilities is important for their home automation and security needs, > your feelings on the matter are irrelevant. Thanks for confirming that nothing is so important that it can't wait until all the eager beavers have validated the release. -- She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics. -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-18 18:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e4844lFkp81U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92601 |
On 2016-09-18, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2016-09-17 19:49, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2016-09-17 18:34, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2016-09-17, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2016-09-17 11:56, nospam wrote: >>>>>> In article <F8qdneilcMicx0DKnZ2dnUU7-W_NnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>>>>> <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is nothing about iOS 10 that is important to anyone except on an >>>>>>> emotional thrill scale. While improvements to notifications are welcome >>>>>>> - they are not urgently needed. While improvements to Messages are >>>>>>> great, they are not urgently needed. etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> nonsense. >>>>>> >>>>>> ios 10 is much more than an emotional thrill. >>>>> >>>>> You misunderstand what I mean. >>>> >>>> Or maybe you worded it really badly. Your statement that "There is >>>> nothing about iOS that is important to anyone except on an emotional >>>> thrill scale" seems to be the source of confusion here. It's >>>> certainly confusing to me. >>> >>> What, if anything, is important about iOS 10 v iOS 9? >> >> I don't think anyone needs to justify which features they feel are >> important to you. It's one thing to say the features aren't important to >> *you*, but quite another thing to state they aren't important to >> *anyone* else. If someone feels the new Home app with HomeKit >> capabilities is important for their home automation and security needs, >> your feelings on the matter are irrelevant. > > Thanks for confirming that nothing is so important that it can't wait > until all the eager beavers have validated the release. Whatever. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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