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| First post | 2015-07-22 09:50 -0400 |
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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 09:50 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 10:33 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 17:25 +0100
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 12:45 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 15:29 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 17:07 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-06 03:25 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:30 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 15:32 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:27 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:28 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 15:27 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:04 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 10:04 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:26 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "M.L." <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-07-22 15:24 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:28 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:13 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-23 01:08 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 15:20 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 13:59 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:02 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 17:33 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:52 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 19:51 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 10:09 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:14 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 10:03 +0200
an imei number is a "statement"? true or false? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-08-09 10:52 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud (was: Who pays for a phone..) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud (was: Who pays for a phone..) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 13:52 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-25 19:04 -0700
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 22:06 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-25 19:09 -0700
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 22:13 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-25 20:04 -0700
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 23:16 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 19:46 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-26 15:21 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:13 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-26 22:07 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 15:04 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-27 08:02 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:30 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-27 18:48 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:11 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-30 05:49 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:18 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-30 17:13 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 14:24 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-31 06:48 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-31 20:51 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 12:00 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-01 19:18 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-01 15:19 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-02 20:15 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-02 17:38 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-04 18:20 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-04 14:25 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 00:56 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 15:06 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-27 08:03 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:31 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-27 18:51 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 20:12 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-30 05:50 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:31 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-27 18:50 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-28 19:46 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-28 17:02 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-29 19:34 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-29 14:41 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-29 20:27 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-29 15:39 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-07-29 15:42 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-08-01 19:07 +0000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-08-01 15:14 -0500
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 13:54 +1000
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 13:53 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:22 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:14 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:07 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-23 01:08 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 15:18 +1000
Smartphone contracts in the US (was: Who pays for a phone call..) Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201507.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-07-23 15:27 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-23 18:08 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:20 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-26 19:46 +0000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:20 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 00:56 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 15:09 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 01:40 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 15:44 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 17:33 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 17:33 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:48 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 10:22 +0200
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 09:15 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 10:10 +1000
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:44 -0400
Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 13:55 +1000
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-07-25 22:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <250720152213020113%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #76279 |
In article <250720151909316131%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > I wonder what he thinks about copyright laws. > > > > you do realize who it is, right? > > Actually, no. he who has many names, tries to use linux, etc.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-07-25 20:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <250720152004404691%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #76280 |
In article <250720152213020113%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <250720151909316131%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > I wonder what he thinks about copyright laws. > > > > > > you do realize who it is, right? > > > > Actually, no. > > he who has many names, tries to use linux, etc. There are too many of them, and I don't try to memorize their aliases.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-07-25 23:16 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <250720152316288465%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #76281 |
In article <250720152004404691%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > he who has many names, tries to use linux, etc. > > There are too many of them, and I don't try to memorize their aliases. i don't keep track of the names, but the persona and posting style is the same.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-07-26 19:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d1krpiFg33bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76277 |
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <250720152044532783%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam > <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > > When I was considering changing the IMEI, I even told the FCC that I was > > > considering it (in my written complaint), and they said over the phone > > > that it was legal, in and of itself, when we discussed the complaint. > > > > bullshit they did. > > > > > As I already proved, in the USA, with T-mobile, it's impossible for all > > > five elements of fraud to apply; however, I wouldn't be so sure with USA > > > AT&T that all five elements don't apply. > > > > you didn't prove any such thing. > > > > the only thing you've proven is that you have no ethics and not only > > blatantly violate the law but advertise that you're doing so, even to > > the fcc. > > I wonder what he thinks about copyright laws. Ah, nospam in down in the dust and digging a hole to the other side and guess who's coming to his 'rescue'!? But responding to your comment: *He* (M.L.) will probably have a clue about that as well. And your reason for snipping his attribution/'name' was exactly what!? B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there.
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-26 15:21 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <h8garalh8idsfb13qe00odk7p8ac6m9i52@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76306 |
On 26 Jul 2015 19:46:59 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: >Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >> In article <250720152044532783%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam >> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> >> > > When I was considering changing the IMEI, I even told the FCC that I was >> > > considering it (in my written complaint), and they said over the phone >> > > that it was legal, in and of itself, when we discussed the complaint. >> > >> > bullshit they did. >> > >> > > As I already proved, in the USA, with T-mobile, it's impossible for all >> > > five elements of fraud to apply; however, I wouldn't be so sure with USA >> > > AT&T that all five elements don't apply. >> > >> > you didn't prove any such thing. >> > >> > the only thing you've proven is that you have no ethics and not only >> > blatantly violate the law but advertise that you're doing so, even to >> > the fcc. >> >> I wonder what he thinks about copyright laws. > > Ah, nospam in down in the dust and digging a hole to the other side >and guess who's coming to his 'rescue'!? > > But responding to your comment: *He* (M.L.) will probably have a clue >about that as well. > > And your reason for snipping his attribution/'name' was exactly what!? > > B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue about >copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. You'd be surprised that more than a few people, especially Americans, have more than a clue about copyright law. I suggest you not go there.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-27 10:13 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d1lbdiFjpqnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76306 |
"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:260720151823126695%nospam@nospam.invalid... > In article <d1krpiFg33bU1@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg > <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > >> >> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. > nonsense. We'll see... > everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of > something and infringing on someone else's copyright. Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously when all you are doing is changing the media format with something that you have paid for a copy of or with something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do.
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-26 22:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <9r7brap6f5rv01lurdparq54hg80gm9vir@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76326 |
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:13:34 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message >news:260720151823126695%nospam@nospam.invalid... >> In article <d1krpiFg33bU1@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg >> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: >> >>> >>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. > >> nonsense. > >We'll see... > >> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. > >Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >when all you are doing is changing the media format >with something that you have paid for a copy of or >with something that has been broadcast in your >jurisdiction and you have recorded as you are legally >entitled to do. Try reading it again. He said that everyone knows when they are MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. Period. Who's the silly one?
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-27 15:04 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d1lseqFncspU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76329 |
BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. >>> nonsense. >> We'll see... >>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. >> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >> when all you are doing is changing the media format >> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. > Try reading it again. Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. > He said that everyone knows when they are > MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit copy and infringing on someone else's copyright when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. > Period. There is no period except between your ears. > Who's the silly one? You and him both.
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-27 08:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <5nacra9soj5cmo1lb9bl6f9uhahbk96ive@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76332 |
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:04:22 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote > >>>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. > >>>> nonsense. > >>> We'll see... > >>>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. > >>> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >>> when all you are doing is changing the media format >>> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >>> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >>> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. > >> Try reading it again. > >Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. > >> He said that everyone knows when they are >> MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. > >Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit >copy and infringing on someone else's copyright >when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly >legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. > >> Period. > >There is no period except between your ears. > >> Who's the silly one? > >You and him both. If you KNOW that you are making an illegal copy you KNOW that it is infringing, idiot. LOL. You put your foot in mouth again and again. When shown to be absolutely wrong just come back with nonsense. For once just admit that you shit in your hat. That'll never happen because you think you can't be wrong, which is wrong.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-28 08:30 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d1npo2F86koU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76354 |
"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message news:br5drad1chcqv5oht33h7rvl8kj5acdoq2@4ax.com... > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:19:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >>BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>> BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >> >>>>>>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>>>>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. >> >>>>>>> nonsense. >> >>>>>> We'll see... >> >>>>>>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>>>>>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. >> >>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >>>>>> when all you are doing is changing the media format >>>>>> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >>>>>> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >>>>>> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. >> >>>>> Try reading it again. >> >>>> Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. >> >>>>> He said that everyone knows when they are >>>>> MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. >> >>>> Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit >>>> copy and infringing on someone else's copyright >>>> when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly >>>> legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. >> >>>>> Period. >> >>>> There is no period except between your ears. >> >>>>> Who's the silly one? >> >>>> You and him both. >> >>> If you KNOW that you are making an illegal >>> copy you KNOW that it is infringing, idiot. >> >>That isn't what is being discussed, fuckwit. <reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-27 18:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <3ngdra9anlm5knrk0uukub1qbh623qcn61@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76389 |
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:30:19 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >news:br5drad1chcqv5oht33h7rvl8kj5acdoq2@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:19:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >>> >>>>>>>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>>>>>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. >>> >>>>>>>> nonsense. >>> >>>>>>> We'll see... >>> >>>>>>>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>>>>>>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. >>> >>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >>>>>>> when all you are doing is changing the media format >>>>>>> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >>>>>>> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >>>>>>> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. >>> >>>>>> Try reading it again. >>> >>>>> Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. >>> >>>>>> He said that everyone knows when they are >>>>>> MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. >>> >>>>> Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit >>>>> copy and infringing on someone else's copyright >>>>> when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly >>>>> legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. >>> >>>>>> Period. >>> >>>>> There is no period except between your ears. >>> >>>>>> Who's the silly one? >>> >>>>> You and him both. >>> >>>> If you KNOW that you are making an illegal >>>> copy you KNOW that it is infringing, idiot. >>> >>>That isn't what is being discussed, fuckwit. > ><reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your >way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no >one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs> > Your lame response that took several hours for you to compose....pitiful.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 20:11 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d1ubjtFruuiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76396 |
"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message news:3ngdra9anlm5knrk0uukub1qbh623qcn61@4ax.com... > On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:30:19 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>news:br5drad1chcqv5oht33h7rvl8kj5acdoq2@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:19:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >>>> >>>>>>>>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>>>>>>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. >>>> >>>>>>>>> nonsense. >>>> >>>>>>>> We'll see... >>>> >>>>>>>>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>>>>>>>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. >>>> >>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >>>>>>>> when all you are doing is changing the media format >>>>>>>> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >>>>>>>> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >>>>>>>> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. >>>> >>>>>>> Try reading it again. >>>> >>>>>> Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. >>>> >>>>>>> He said that everyone knows when they are >>>>>>> MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. >>>> >>>>>> Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit >>>>>> copy and infringing on someone else's copyright >>>>>> when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly >>>>>> legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. >>>> >>>>>>> Period. >>>> >>>>>> There is no period except between your ears. >>>> >>>>>>> Who's the silly one? >>>> >>>>>> You and him both. >>>> >>>>> If you KNOW that you are making an illegal >>>>> copy you KNOW that it is infringing, idiot. >>>> >>>>That isn't what is being discussed, fuckwit. <reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 05:49 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <a90kra5pefofo1fq36lq3p5sk2pokm1o89@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76434 |
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:11:27 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >news:3ngdra9anlm5knrk0uukub1qbh623qcn61@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:30:19 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>>news:br5drad1chcqv5oht33h7rvl8kj5acdoq2@4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:19:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>>>>>>>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> nonsense. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> We'll see... >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>>>>>>>>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >>>>>>>>> when all you are doing is changing the media format >>>>>>>>> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >>>>>>>>> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >>>>>>>>> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Try reading it again. >>>>> >>>>>>> Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. >>>>> >>>>>>>> He said that everyone knows when they are >>>>>>>> MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. >>>>> >>>>>>> Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit >>>>>>> copy and infringing on someone else's copyright >>>>>>> when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly >>>>>>> legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Period. >>>>> >>>>>>> There is no period except between your ears. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Who's the silly one? >>>>> >>>>>>> You and him both. >>>>> >>>>>> If you KNOW that you are making an illegal >>>>>> copy you KNOW that it is infringing, idiot. >>>>> >>>>>That isn't what is being discussed, fuckwit. > ><reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your >way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no >one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs> > Your usual lame response that took several hours for you to compose....pitiful. Only used when you're stumped and have no actual answer.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-31 07:18 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d1vim8F7ghtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76442 |
"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message news:a90kra5pefofo1fq36lq3p5sk2pokm1o89@4ax.com... > On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:11:27 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>news:3ngdra9anlm5knrk0uukub1qbh623qcn61@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:30:19 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>news:br5drad1chcqv5oht33h7rvl8kj5acdoq2@4ax.com... >>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:19:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>> BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> B.T.W. Most people - especially Americans - have no clue >>>>>>>>>>>> about copyright law, so if I were you, I wouldn't go there. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We'll see... >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> everyone knows when they're making an illicit copy of >>>>>>>>>>> something and infringing on someone else's copyright. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage, most obviously >>>>>>>>>> when all you are doing is changing the media format >>>>>>>>>> with something that you have paid for a copy of or with >>>>>>>>>> something that has been broadcast in your jurisdiction >>>>>>>>>> and you have recorded as you are legally entitled to do. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Try reading it again. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't need to, nothing changes after reading it again. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He said that everyone knows when they are >>>>>>>>> MAKING AN ILLICIT copy it's infringing. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Plenty would BELIEVE that they are making an illicit >>>>>>>> copy and infringing on someone else's copyright >>>>>>>> when in fact they are doing what they are perfectly >>>>>>>> legally entitled to do in the situations I listed. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Period. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no period except between your ears. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Who's the silly one? >>>>>> >>>>>>>> You and him both. >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you KNOW that you are making an illegal >>>>>>> copy you KNOW that it is infringing, idiot. >>>>>> >>>>>>That isn't what is being discussed, fuckwit. <reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-30 17:13 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <la8lratmsl3e7sctesci1qs5me00ksfton@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76445 |
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:57 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > ><reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your >way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no >one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs> > Your usual lame response that took several hours for you to compose....pitiful. Only used when you're stumped and have no actual answer.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-31 14:24 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d20c22Fd37jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76447 |
"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message news:la8lratmsl3e7sctesci1qs5me00ksfton@4ax.com... > On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:57 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: <reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-31 06:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <a3omra9tbup0de6s9cr20u5v6hjm90qtsn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76450 |
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:24:53 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >news:la8lratmsl3e7sctesci1qs5me00ksfton@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:57 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > ><reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your >way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no >one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs> > Your usual lame response that took several hours for you to compose....pitiful. Only used when you're stumped and have no actual answer.
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| From | BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-31 20:51 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <kf9orapo72cr83egpeb65jmqvs3euvqabh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76453 |
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015 09:35:31 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > > >"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >news:jfvnra9du4ca4k3bccqmq5pbpfpn23db7d@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 1 Aug 2015 06:19:59 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>>news:a3omra9tbup0de6s9cr20u5v6hjm90qtsn@4ax.com... >>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:24:53 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>>news:la8lratmsl3e7sctesci1qs5me00ksfton@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:57 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your >way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no >one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs> > I'm a little busy so I'll have to ignore you later...along with everyone else.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-01 12:00 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d22nj2Fr3bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76471 |
"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message news:kf9orapo72cr83egpeb65jmqvs3euvqabh@4ax.com... > On Sat, 1 Aug 2015 09:35:31 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>news:jfvnra9du4ca4k3bccqmq5pbpfpn23db7d@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2015 06:19:59 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>news:a3omra9tbup0de6s9cr20u5v6hjm90qtsn@4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:24:53 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:la8lratmsl3e7sctesci1qs5me00ksfton@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:57 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: <reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-01 19:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: IMEI alteration is not fraud |
| Message-ID | <d24kcrFffg5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76453 |
BobbyK <bknight@conramp.net> wrote: > On 31 Jul 2015 18:22:43 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> > wrote: > > >BobbyK <bknight@conramp.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:24:53 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >"BobbyK" <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote in message > >> >news:la8lratmsl3e7sctesci1qs5me00ksfton@4ax.com... > >> >> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:57 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >> >> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> ><reams of you desperately attempting to bullshit your > >> >way out of your predicament that fools absolutely no > >> >one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs> > >> > > >> Your usual lame response that took several hours for you to > >> compose....pitiful. Only used when you're stumped and have no actual > >> answer. > > > > Talking about lame, you *do* realize that there are other timezones > >than yours, don't you? So "that took several hours for you to compose" > >is utter bollocks and should be left out, unless of course you want to > >look as silly as Roddles. > What you don't realize is that I wrote this weeks ago in response to > this bit of stupidity from him. My reference to time is that he had to > work to compose this ongoing tripe as a response to anyone with whom > he disagrees. What you don't realize is that a response should make sense in the context in which it is written. People can't look inside your head and probably wouldn't want to. Your first response of this type was already lame (because this kind of response from Roddles is one of his many recordings, i.e. no time to compose), your umpteen repetitions are just as silly as Roddles'. > What happened to EOD? :-) The References: header says it didn't.
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