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Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14

Started byMarion <marion@facts.com>
First post2025-02-21 04:05 +0000
Last post2025-02-28 10:28 -0800
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  Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-21 04:05 +0000
    Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-24 03:07 +0000
      Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-02-23 19:36 -0800
        Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-02-26 17:47 +0000
          Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-27 16:25 +0000
            Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-02-27 10:57 -0800
    Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-02-24 03:26 +0000
      Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-27 18:07 +0000
    Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-28 07:29 +0000
      How dim IS Marion? (was Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-02-28 10:28 -0800

#193472 — Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-02-21 04:05 +0000
SubjectComparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14
Message-ID<vp8u2p$25fr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
iPhone 14
 vs
iPhone 16e
  
iPhone 14 Display:
  - 6.1"
  - OLED w/ smaller notch
  �V 800 nits of brightness
 vs
iPhone 16e Display:
  - 6.1"
  - OLED w/ smaller notch
  �V 800 nits of brightness
  
iPhone 14 Camera:
  - Wide: 12MP
  - Ultrawide: 12MP
 vs
iPhone 16e Camera:
  - Wide: 48MP
  - Ultrawide: N/A
  
iPhone 14 Processor:
  - Apple A15:
  �V 6 core CPU
  �V 5 core GPU
  �V 16 core Neural Engine
 vs
iPhone 16e Processor:
  - Apple A18:
  �V 6 core CPU
  �V 4 core GPU
  �V 16 core Neural Engine
  
iPhone 14 Charging:
  - Lightning up to 20W
  - MagSafe up to 15W
 vs
iPhone 16e Charging:
  - USB-C up to 20W
  - Qi charging up to 7.5W
  
iPhone 14 Apple Intelligence:
  - No support
 vs
iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
  - Fully supported
  
iPhone 14 Connectivity:
  �V Wi-Fi 6
  �V Bluetooth 5.3
  �V Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
 vs
iPhone 16e Connectivity:
  �V Wi-Fi 6
  �V Bluetooth 5.3
  �V Sub-6GHz 5G
  
iPhone 14 Battery:
  - 20 hours of claimed video playback
 vs
iPhone 16e Battery:
  - 26 hours of claimed video playback
  
iPhone 14 Additional features:
  �V Ring/mute switch
  �V Emergency SOS via Satellite
  �V Crash Detection
  �V Photographic Style
 vs
iPhone 16e Additional features:
  �V Action Button
  �V Emergency SOS via Satellite
  �V Crash Detection
  �V Photographic Styles
  
Anything else?

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#193521

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-02-24 03:07 +0000
Message-ID<vpgnpe$v3h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#193472
The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have also been removed from Apple's
website. The iPhone 14 will remain available from Apple's channel partners,
while the iPhone 14 Plus has been discontinued entirely. 

https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/

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#193525

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-02-23 19:36 -0800
Message-ID<vpgpff$ped1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193521
On 2025-02-23 19:07, Marion wrote:
> The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have also been removed from Apple's
> website. The iPhone 14 will remain available from Apple's channel partners,
> while the iPhone 14 Plus has been discontinued entirely.
> https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres- 
> everything-you-need-to-know/

You spend more time looking at Apple products than anyone else I've ever 
talked to...

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#193576

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2025-02-26 17:47 +0000
Message-ID<m292dlF4tlvU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#193525
On 2025-02-24, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-02-23 19:07, Marion wrote:
>> The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have also been removed from Apple's
>> website. The iPhone 14 will remain available from Apple's channel partners,
>> while the iPhone 14 Plus has been discontinued entirely.
>> https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres- 
>> everything-you-need-to-know/
>
> You spend more time looking at Apple products than anyone else I've ever 
> talked to...

Of course. He's desperately jealous of everything Apple.

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#193595

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-02-27 16:25 +0000
Message-ID<vpq3l4$757$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#193576
On 26 Feb 2025 17:47:33 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :


>>> The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have also been removed from Apple's
>>> website. The iPhone 14 will remain available from Apple's channel partners,
>>> while the iPhone 14 Plus has been discontinued entirely.
>>> https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres- 
>>> everything-you-need-to-know/
>>
>> You spend more time looking at Apple products than anyone else I've ever 
>> talked to...
> 
> Of course. He's desperately jealous of everything Apple.

Some day I'd like to write a book about what's so very different about you
strange Apple trolls who feel just because I can understand Apple's
marketing strategy means that I'm (somehow?) jealous of "everything Apple".

In a way, though, you're right in that I'm impressed by the brilliant Apple
marketing that sells what is in effect a cheap device, for tons of money.

Cheap batteries. Cheap RAM. Cheap hardware. Dumb-terminal design. etc.
People have to buy AppleCare+ just to keep that cheap iPhone working.

They spent so much keeping that cheap iPhone alive that they literally
stand outside in lines wrapping around the Apple store to trade it in.

All at the same time congratulating each of the herd animals next to them
who also can't wait even a minute to ditch their old iPhone at the store.

Just to get another crappy iPhone that Apple marketing tells them to do.
No different than Virginia Slims ("You've come a long way baby").

Apple couldn't get away with selling its crap without that marketing any
more than Big Tobacco could get away with for their cheap expensive cigs.

So, you're right Jolly Roger. I'm rather impressed by Apple Marketing.

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#193598

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-02-27 10:57 -0800
Message-ID<vpqci7$37ves$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193595
On 2025-02-27 08:25, Marion wrote:
> On 26 Feb 2025 17:47:33 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> 
> 
>>>> The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus have also been removed from Apple's
>>>> website. The iPhone 14 will remain available from Apple's channel 
>>>> partners,
>>>> while the iPhone 14 Plus has been discontinued entirely.
>>>> https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/19/apple-unveils-new-iphone-16e-heres- 
>>>> everything-you-need-to-know/
>>>
>>> You spend more time looking at Apple products than anyone else I've 
>>> ever talked to...
>>
>> Of course. He's desperately jealous of everything Apple.
> 
> Some day I'd like to write a book about what's so very different about you
> strange Apple trolls who feel just because I can understand Apple's
> marketing strategy means that I'm (somehow?) jealous of "everything Apple".
> 
> In a way, though, you're right in that I'm impressed by the brilliant Apple
> marketing that sells what is in effect a cheap device, for tons of money.
> 
> Cheap batteries. Cheap RAM. Cheap hardware. Dumb-terminal design. etc.
> People have to buy AppleCare+ just to keep that cheap iPhone working.
> 
> They spent so much keeping that cheap iPhone alive that they literally
> stand outside in lines wrapping around the Apple store to trade it in.
> 
> All at the same time congratulating each of the herd animals next to them
> who also can't wait even a minute to ditch their old iPhone at the store.
> 
> Just to get another crappy iPhone that Apple marketing tells them to do.
> No different than Virginia Slims ("You've come a long way baby").
> 
> Apple couldn't get away with selling its crap without that marketing any
> more than Big Tobacco could get away with for their cheap expensive cigs.
> 
> So, you're right Jolly Roger. I'm rather impressed by Apple Marketing.

You absolutely deserve to be smacked across the mouth.

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#193523

Fromant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date2025-02-24 03:26 +0000
Message-ID<OLSdnZYI9pdneyb6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#193472
Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-14,iphone-16e which
is nicer and easier to read. ;)


Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> iPhone 14
> vs
> iPhone 16e
>  
> iPhone 14 Display:
>  - 6.1"
>  - OLED w/ smaller notch
>  ?V 800 nits of brightness
> vs
> iPhone 16e Display:
>  - 6.1"
>  - OLED w/ smaller notch
>  ?V 800 nits of brightness
>  
> iPhone 14 Camera:
>  - Wide: 12MP
>  - Ultrawide: 12MP
> vs
> iPhone 16e Camera:
>  - Wide: 48MP
>  - Ultrawide: N/A
>  
> iPhone 14 Processor:
>  - Apple A15:
>  ?V 6 core CPU
>  ?V 5 core GPU
>  ?V 16 core Neural Engine
> vs
> iPhone 16e Processor:
>  - Apple A18:
>  ?V 6 core CPU
>  ?V 4 core GPU
>  ?V 16 core Neural Engine
>  
> iPhone 14 Charging:
>  - Lightning up to 20W
>  - MagSafe up to 15W
> vs
> iPhone 16e Charging:
>  - USB-C up to 20W
>  - Qi charging up to 7.5W
>  
> iPhone 14 Apple Intelligence:
>  - No support
> vs
> iPhone 16e Apple Intelligence:
>  - Fully supported
>  
> iPhone 14 Connectivity:
>  ?V Wi-Fi 6
>  ?V Bluetooth 5.3
>  ?V Sub-6GHz and mmWave 5G
> vs
> iPhone 16e Connectivity:
>  ?V Wi-Fi 6
>  ?V Bluetooth 5.3
>  ?V Sub-6GHz 5G
>  
> iPhone 14 Battery:
>  - 20 hours of claimed video playback
> vs
> iPhone 16e Battery:
>  - 26 hours of claimed video playback
>  
> iPhone 14 Additional features:
>  ?V Ring/mute switch
>  ?V Emergency SOS via Satellite
>  ?V Crash Detection
>  ?V Photographic Style
> vs
> iPhone 16e Additional features:
>  ?V Action Button
>  ?V Emergency SOS via Satellite
>  ?V Crash Detection
>  ?V Photographic Styles
>  
> Anything else?

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#193596

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-02-27 18:07 +0000
Message-ID<vpq9la$e0h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#193523
On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 03:26:50 +0000, Ant wrote :


> Or https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-14,iphone-16e which
> is nicer and easier to read. ;)

Hi Ant,
I agree. Thanks. It's very nicely formatted. You're good at this. 
You make good use of Apple's forums (e.g., I've seen your questions asked).

You're NOT an Apple troll, so I appreciate your helpful input to this ng.

The only problem with that link, as I see it anyway, is that it's slanted
heavily toward Apple propaganda, understandably so. This means it will
NEVER show you the real truth about certain things which we all know are
historically terrible in the Apple iPhone. If finds a way to sugar coat
what is terrible.

Lousy battery capacity being one of those classic terrible iPhone things.

For now, since we only learn how crappy Apple hardware is only AFTER iFixIt
tears it down, we'll have to wait to compare how crappy the battery is.

All we have are the leaked specs, which I had already reported:
 *Dismal battery, slower screen refresh, and smaller camera...*
 <https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2025/02/09/apple-iphone-se-battery-camera-display-specs-leak-new-iphone/>

Note that Apple will *never* tell the truth in that neatly formatted page.

  "...the iPhone SE's battery comes in at a reported 3,279 mAh. 
   That's significantly lower than some of the key competing smartphones; 
   the Google Pixel 8a sports 4,492 mAh, and both the Oppo Reno12 Pro 
   and the Samsung Galaxy A55 have specs-busting 5,000 mAh.

   No doubt Apple will ... go with how many hours of "average daily use" 
   and "streaming video" hours its phone can achieve, but again, 
   the raw numbers of the iPhone SE fall short of the competition."

All iPhones have crappy batteries - and this iPhone is no different.
Almost all iPhones miserably fail the EU long-term battery-life minimums.

The only iPhones that pass, *barely* squeak by, while most similarly priced
Android phones easily double the minimum EU set battery life expectations.

But you will never hear Apple tell you the truth.

My new slogan should be: *I tell the truth. Not Apple.* :)
Apple only tells the truth when forced to, in court (or by the EU).

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#193606

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-02-28 07:29 +0000
Message-ID<vprolh$fm5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#193472
On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:05:45 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


> iPhone 14 Battery:
>   - 20 hours of claimed video playback
>  vs
> iPhone 16e Battery:
>   - 26 hours of claimed video playback

Since we strive to *understand* Apple products, it behooves us to 
understand what the facts are on the dismal Apple battery capacity.

For such an expensive phone, the iPhone 16e battery capacity is pathetic
 "iPhone 16e has a battery capacity of 3961 mAh"
 <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/27/iphone-16e-battery-comparison/>

Yet, the iPhone 14 has an even more pathetic battery capacity of 3,279 mAh.
 iPhone 14: 3,279 mAh   
 iPhone 14 Plus: 4,325 mAh   
 iPhone 14 Pro: 3,200 mAh   
 iPhone 14 Pro Max: 4,323 mAh 

No wonder Apple is no longer allowed to sell the iPhone 14 in the EU after 
this summer due to the pitiful number of lifetime charge cycles before the 
battery drops below 80% (which Apple must certify to sell in the EU).

As feeble as the iPhone 16 e battery capacity is, at least the iPhone 16e 
battery has a 121% bigger capacity than the lame iPhone 14 battery had.

Note: My free $200 MSRP Galaxy A32-5G from 2021 has a 5 Amp Hour battery.

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#193609 — How dim IS Marion? (was Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-02-28 10:28 -0800
SubjectHow dim IS Marion? (was Re: Comparison of the new iPhone 16e to the iPhone 14
Message-ID<vpsv98$3pcit$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#193606
On 2025-02-27 23:29, Marion wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:05:45 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
> 
> 
>> iPhone 14 Battery:
>>   - 20 hours of claimed video playback
>>  vs
>> iPhone 16e Battery:
>>   - 26 hours of claimed video playback
> 
> Since we strive to *understand* Apple products, it behooves us to 
> understand what the facts are on the dismal Apple battery capacity.
> 
> For such an expensive phone, the iPhone 16e battery capacity is pathetic
> "iPhone 16e has a battery capacity of 3961 mAh"
> <https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/27/iphone-16e-battery-comparison/>
> 
> Yet, the iPhone 14 has an even more pathetic battery capacity of 3,279 mAh.
> iPhone 14: 3,279 mAh iPhone 14 Plus: 4,325 mAh iPhone 14 Pro: 3,200 mAh 
> iPhone 14 Pro Max: 4,323 mAh
> No wonder Apple is no longer allowed to sell the iPhone 14 in the EU 
> after this summer due to the pitiful number of lifetime charge cycles 
> before the battery drops below 80% (which Apple must certify to sell in 
> the EU).
> 
> As feeble as the iPhone 16 e battery capacity is, at least the iPhone 
> 16e battery has a 121% bigger capacity than the lame iPhone 14 battery had.
> 
> Note: My free $200 MSRP Galaxy A32-5G from 2021 has a 5 Amp Hour battery.

Which is utterly irrelevant.

Available energy storage must be compared to power usage.

Anyone of at least average intelligence understands this.

It doesn't matter if my "bimmer" has a larger gas tank that my friend's 
Honda Civic...

...if the power usage of his engine allows him to travel further.

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